O Reilly on gun control last night

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - O Reilly on gun control last night

Posted: 4/21/2007 12:40:21 PM EDT

Did anybody watch the episode last night on FNC? I ended up going to the bar and missed it. Bill was going to debate with somebody about the 2A.

Pat

Posted: 4/21/2007 12:45:46 PM EDT

[#1]

TAG

I'm interested as well. I had to work last night and missed it.

Posted: 4/21/2007 12:47:54 PM EDT

[#2]

Geraldo was on

O'rielly was pro-2A (more than geraldo) but wanted to keep "mentally ill" people from having guns.

eta:

Geraldo's closing statement, paraphrased:

"I don't think anybody should have guns, except the police or military. But if one of those teachers had a gun, this wouldn't have happened."

WTF over

Posted: 4/21/2007 12:50:18 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Geraldo was on

O'rielly was pro-2A (more than geraldo) but wanted to keep "mentally ill" people from having guns.

eta:

Geraldo's closing statement, paraphrased:

"I don't think anybody should have guns, except the police or military. But if one of those teachers had a gun, this wouldn't have happened."

WTF over

WTF?? Maybe the Klan hit Geraldo Too hard in the head...

Posted: 4/21/2007 12:57:05 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Geraldo was on

O'rielly was pro-2A (more than geraldo) but wanted to keep "mentally ill" people from having guns.

eta:

Geraldo's closing statement, paraphrased:

"I don't think anybody should have guns, except the police or military. But if one of those teachers had a gun, this wouldn't have happened."

WTF over

Doesn't that just blow his whole fucking argument?

What a dumbass.

Posted: 4/21/2007 12:58:59 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Geraldo was on

O'rielly was pro-2A (more than geraldo) but wanted to keep "mentally ill" people from having guns.

eta:

Geraldo's closing statement, paraphrased:

"I don't think anybody should have guns, except the police or military. But if one of those teachers had a gun, this wouldn't have happened."

WTF over

WTF?? Maybe the Klan hit Geraldo Too hard in the head...

WTF? you ask.Maybe geraldo is trying to save his ass and his job from a certain FIREMISSION.

Keep up the heat

Posted: 4/21/2007 12:59:47 PM EDT

[#6]

O'Reilly gets enough angry emails in and he'll say anything.

I do not believe he is a suporter of the 2nd and, in fact, is a detriment to our cause (a "conservative" talking head who argues/has argued for gun control).

I decided some time ago that I will not watch his show.

Posted: 4/21/2007 1:02:45 PM EDT

[#7]

anyone have a link or anything?

Posted: 4/21/2007 1:06:56 PM EDT

[#8]

Fox News needs to give Gay-raldo the boot and send his punk ass back to NBC before he brings them down

Posted: 4/21/2007 1:16:33 PM EDT

[#9]

Geraldo is an emotionalist, his stories don't have anything to do with getting facts...

Posted: 4/21/2007 1:21:22 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

Maybe the Klan hit Geraldo Too hard in the head...

Classic!! I can still see it in my minds eye.

Posted: 4/21/2007 1:21:25 PM EDT

[#11]

I watched that and heard what he was saying at the end. I too was like WTF

. The man either flip flops faster that John Kerry or he must have an IQ below 68. I think I'd respect the asshat a little more if he was outright anti-gun instead of the both sides thing. BTW Bill Oreilly ain't no conservative and to his credit he's gone out of his way to state exactly that. He's a Populist

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Quoted:

Quoted:
Geraldo was on

O'rielly was pro-2A (more than geraldo) but wanted to keep "mentally ill" people from having guns.

eta:

Geraldo's closing statement, paraphrased:

"I don't think anybody should have guns, except the police or military. But if one of those teachers had a gun, this wouldn't have happened."

WTF over

Doesn't that just blow his whole fucking argument?

What a dumbass.

Posted: 4/21/2007 2:00:04 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
IIRC, Geraldo said something to the effect, "I don't want anybody to have guns except the police and maybe some security types. But if I was a professor at Virginia Tech and had a gun, I would have taken that guy out."

Typical, liberal, eletist, "I know what's better for you than you do", and "the rules don't apply to me" attitude.

While, generally a fan of O'Reilly, last night was at least the second time this week he made the point that, "No state, not one, requires that anyone ajudicated an imminent danger to himself or others be reported to the FBI".

His point is that if a person is known to have this type of mental 'history', they should instantly have their right to own/buy weapons forfeited...WITHOUT EVER HAVING BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME. (Emphasis added.)

He seems unaware that the standard form 4473 includes at least one question regarding a potential gun purchaser's mental history.

I think O'Reilly is gonna make this his next 'cause celeb' just as he did in pushing so hard for "Jessica's Law". Just my .02.

Yeah, that 4473 asks exactly what O'Reilly wants to make sure is checked. Are you suggesting you trust people adjudicate mentally defective to be honest on the 4473?

Posted: 4/21/2007 2:03:17 PM EDT

[#13]

Geraldo, the same guy that was running around Afganistan looking for Osama with his own 45.

Who wants to bet he still has that gun.

Posted: 4/21/2007 2:05:35 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Geraldo was on

O'rielly was pro-2A (more than geraldo) but wanted to keep "mentally ill" people from having guns.

eta:

Geraldo's closing statement, paraphrased:

"I don't think anybody should have guns, except the police or military. But if one of those teachers had a gun, this wouldn't have happened."

WTF over

WTF?? Maybe the Klan hit Geraldo Too hard in the head...

Or not hard enough!

Posted: 4/21/2007 2:10:40 PM EDT

[#15]

Orly said something to the effect of: "Which is fine for other countries but in America we have a 2A. Something those other countries don't have. A traditional legacy leftover from the Revolution Era."

It was actually a bigger attack on the 2A than that but I can't remember the exact words. He basically made it sound like the 2A is a worthless inconvinience that helped us win the Revolution but is simply too much work to get rid of.

Posted: 4/21/2007 2:14:03 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

But if I was a professor at Virginia Tech and had a gun, I would have taken that guy out."

LOL Geraldo was shakin' in his boots when it looked like his interview with O'Reilly might come to blows the other day.

Yeah, maybe in his punk ass dreams he could've taken out the Virgina Tech shooter.

Posted: 4/21/2007 2:17:55 PM EDT

[#17]

The question on the 4473 means nothing.

Lie? No way to track it.

Caught lying? They won't prosecute (hell, no one goes to jail for felon status, they just don't get the gun).

If the question on the form is to mean anything, mental health records will have to be checked. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't happen, so long as "depression" does not bar you. Just because you were put on Prozac when you were 16 doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to buy at gun at age 25.

Declared whacko? No gun for you.

- BG

Posted: 4/21/2007 2:25:13 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
The question on the 4473 means nothing.

Lie? No way to track it.

Caught lying? They won't prosecute (hell, no one goes to jail for felon status, they just don't get the gun).

If the question on the form is to mean anything, mental health records will have to be checked. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't happen, so long as "depression" does not bar you. Just because you were put on Prozac when you were 16 doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to buy at gun at age 25.

Declared whacko? No gun for you.

- BG

Exactly.

The NRA has been advocating the additon of such mental health (adjudications of mental defectiveness) info to the NICS database since the NICS database was started. The anti-gunners were never interested in joining them for the cause, they were too busy trying to extend the assualt weapons ban, ban magazines, or what not.

Tell me, what is the ONE thing that would have prevented this Cho kid from buying that gun at that gun store (I realize he still would have eneded up getting regardless)?

It was a month before - a 7-day waiting period would have been worthless.

He reloaded often. 5 less rounds per mag would have been meaningless.

The ONE thing that would have prevented the purchase is what the NRA, and not the anti-gunners, have been advocating.

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