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Posted: 9/15/2005 9:00:39 AM EDT
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Looks like a Nissan Pathfinder (older model).
Doesn't really surprise me. Typical Chinese "let's reverse engineer something for much cheaper than the original product" garbage. |
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Will they be selling those at Wal-mart?
Would anyone in America buy a chinese automobile? |
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Isuzu Trooper knock off. What a giant pos. What the fuck did they make that out of?
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It doesnt suprise me that they finally started useing some of their own cheap steel in their vehicles over there.
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That thing broke up like a happy meal toy! So that's what they did with all the metal they bought off of US junkyards!
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I would bet a fair amount that a Ram, F150, or Tahoe would fare no better.
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Yep, looks just like a knock-off of the older Isuzu Rodeo. Seeing as how they steal others designs (since they have no such creative ability of their own), I would be supprised if it wasn't an exact likeness. |
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Not that bad. 40 mph on a full sized truck frame? |
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You would be very wrong. I suspect that IIHS crash tests are done on these vehicles as well and the test results are probably available to you. Dodge Ram 1500: Good Ford F-150: Good Chevy Silverado: Marginal Details on Chevy test: The Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500 were redesigned during the 1999 model year (the old design continued into the early part of the 1999 model year). Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement wasn't well controlled. After the dummy moved forward into the airbag, its head dropped down below the window sill. Then the head rebounded upward and hit the shoulder belt housing, which is mounted directly to the seat back. There was far too much upward movement of the steering wheel. Also, the driver seat came loose on one of its tracks and moved rearward slightly on the right side, where the safety belt buckle is anchored. Injury measures — Measures taken from the dummy indicate a low risk of any significant injuries in a crash of this severity. Head acceleration from the belt housing hit was low. As you can see, even at a marginal rating, the occupants would be very unlikely to sustain more than minor injuries. Put that in your American car hating pipe and smoke it. |
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6 packs I think it'll be, but at costco looking at that picture, I sure as hell wouldn't be riding in it. |
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They already buy cars from the Korean auto industry... which had somewhat rocky start (and still somewhat questionable quality). |
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Oh, look at the windshield wipers on the Toureg at the moment of impact. Kharn |
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Yup, I owned one of those a while back... |
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Indeed. Those things would roll over at the drop of a hat. Not something I would drive.... |
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EEK!! The damn roof is peeling back, what is that thing held together with, twist ties?
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I believe you would be losing that bet. BigDozer66 |
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What do you want for a car you can buy brand new off the shelf at Wal-Mart for $800 bucks?
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Tin foil--they should be very popular with some of the members here. Heh |
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Here are the front impact test ratings of the vehicles you mentioned, they pass that test easily. Ford F150's have a Good "best pick" rating by Insurance Institute for Highway Safety Dodge Ram's also have a Good rating by Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. Chevy Tahoe has a rating of 4 by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration |
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40mph is quite fast for a crash...
I'd like to take the time to point out that the 'auto/oil industry conspiracy theorists' keep talking about this 'SUV that gets 40mpg in China but isn't sold in the USA'... (not necciarily referring to this model) Maybe, that's because the Chinese do not have US safety & pollution requirements to deal with, ya think? |
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Wow, that is bad. They better put a warning with it when you get one in your Happy Meal
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The Ford F-150 2 and 4 door models and the Dodge Ram 1500 are all 5 star front crash ratings.
The Chevy Tahoe and the VW Toureg are both 4 star front ratings. The Lakewind would be well below that. BigDozer66 |
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I hope the Landwind becomes popular with Chinese military folks.
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Safety? What is that? Pollution? What is that? BigDozer66 |
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China is fairly new to the car manufacturing industry. Think of all the years of trucks that did the same thing in America, Japan, and Europe before they started making them pass more and more tests. China is very good at building and replicating other things. I bet they pass it next time (something that took America more then a decade)
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Hah! I could build one that would pass in my basement! Just like that Neutron device... |
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I'll wait until its marked down to $400 on clearance and then pick one up. Might make an entertaining reactive target, ya know? |
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Not supprising. Didn't they just
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...you sure about that? Even a MINI did better that a FORD F150. Sorry to break it to you but the older F150 is a deathtrap. www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/CrashTestingMINICooperVsFordF150 I guess thats the difference between good vs. bad engeneering...but please keep fooling yourself, I'll stick to my 540i |
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haha Jiangling motors? Is that for the sound that their cars make when they crash?
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They had an article in Autoweek a few months back...
The Chinese had copied/knocked-off a Rolls www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102271 |
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not sure if they need that in the Netherlands though ... the first major market for them. |
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It just goes to show how much engineering there is in an automobile that you can't see. The chinese could copy the Toureq down to the last screw and it still wouldn't perform the same. They still wouldn't know the specs on the steel that was used in each of the parts, the methods of forming the parts, including surface treatments and heat treatments, nor would they know how the welds were made.
All that is stuff they will have to engineer for themselves. It will take time, and lots of failures, just like every other car manufacturer has to go through. |
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Yep, noticed that. Can't the damn Reds do something original? |
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Kharn |
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Yeah, and if you make a car out of tin and balsam wood, the weight reduction will results in much better gas mileage. |
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A Mini weights a lot less than a F-150, and therefor has a lot less kinetic energy to deal with. A F-250 with its thicker frame rails would stand up much better to a crash for it weight. Though I would also stick to my 540i, if I had one |
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did you not see the pictures of the F150? any person in there would be fucked. do some research and you will see that a lot of vehicles do poorly in this test. |
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