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Posted: 5/24/2001 10:47:36 AM EDT
Dish Network or Direct TV. Are there any other out there? My complaint is that ATT digital cable doesn't have all the chanels I want. COX digital cable had most. ATT only has a fraction of it. Specially porn
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 10:54:01 AM EDT
My brother sells these things, get a Dish Network , they have 4 or 5 porn channels, XCTASY is full blow show everything XXXXXX porn. They have a good deal going on right now, you get two recievers, blah blah blah. Call 1800-333-DISH. Direct TV is a rip off, they are almost as bad as the cable guys. Hope this helps. Mike
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 10:57:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2001 10:56:53 AM EDT by LARRYG]
I compared long and hard before I chose Dish Network. Many I know that have DirecTV say the customer service is lousy. You get a lot more for your money with Dish Network. I have the Dishplayer 500 on which I can record movies/shows to a hard drive in the reciever. It also lets me back up when I am watching live TV. It is similiar to TiVo, but TiVo relies on what you have on cable (from my understanding)and is also a seperate expense. I hear that DirecTV is coming out with a reciever similar to this, but Dish has had it for some time and I am told they new reciever with hard drive will record 30+ hours on the disk. I say go with Dish Network.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 11:14:27 AM EDT
If you want sports go with DIRECT-TV. Btw, you didn't say if you wanted to pay for it or not... Then I could make another suggestion. [;)]
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 11:18:28 AM EDT
I got Dish Network. My only complaint so far is that I've had a number of tech problems - only one of the two TV's working, certain channels would not come up, had to replace the receiver. But their customer service dept is pretty good. responsive, and pretty quick to fix things. With the new receiver, things seem better. Channels are pretty decent. I don't do the porn channels, of which there is a fairly healthy selection. I have my own in-home porn show. [}:D] I married her. And you gotta remember, to get to my house, you drive out to "the boonies," gas up your car, and then drive another 100 miles to "the middle of nowhere."
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 11:22:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 7: If you want sports go with DIRECT-TV. Btw, you didn't say if you wanted to pay for it or not... Then I could make another suggestion. [;)]
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I know people. [:D]
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 11:25:13 AM EDT
Satelite TV sucks. Where I live I get the same pay channels for a little bit more an ATT cable, I get less HBO's and less sports. With Cable I can get the Canada stations, plus all of the local stations. Regular TV reception here sucks, and you have to pay extra for local channels with the dish, and then you don't get them all. Dish Network also broadcasts some national channels directly off of the feed, they do not delay it. This sucks if you think that your favorite TV show is on at 9 pm it's probably gonna be on at 6 pm. Then they make you pay extra for more than one feed channel at a time by making you buy another descrambler unit and a service fee for it. At least with regular cable I can hook up as many TV's as I want to, and if I had the ATT digital cable TV I could still just run a cable splitter off of the line before it goes to the box and get all of the non-digital TV stations.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 11:30:24 AM EDT
You know I had the same sentiments about satellite back on CA. Cox Cable offered the same channels as DirectTV or Dish network for less money. However here in TX ATT sucks. I don't get nearly as much channels and I pay $20 more.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 2:19:32 PM EDT
Lordtrader: I half heard something on the news this afternoon about EchoStar (the owner of DISH) making an offer to buy Hughes (an owner of DirectTV). Something to look further into. I went with DISH and couldn't be happier. Much cheaper than cable, and I get 9 different HBO's. Also, at the time, DirectTV didn't offer FOXNews, but that may have changed by now? DanM
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 2:59:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2001 3:01:47 PM EDT by lordtrader]
Well looks like Dish Network it is. I talked to a couple of people at work also and they seem to be pretty happy with Dish network. Just went outside to my patio to see if it was south facing. It was not but the garage is. So I think I will have them mount somewhere near there. Thanx for all the input. Someone mentioned Xtacy channel very promising indeed. Hmmmm.... Cox Digital Cable had the HotZone 1 & 2 and so does Direct TV. I guess Xtacy channel will be comparable to it [:D] I'm just a guy who loves his ATF. [b]A[/b]lcohol [b]T[/b]itties [b]F[/b]irearms In my county there's hardly any liquor store and porn is banned. So why do I live here? I was told Form 4's are easy to get signed [:D]
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:13:57 PM EDT
Compared to ATT cable the Dish Network is a lot better. I have ATT cable and my parents have the Dish. I'm in an apt. One thing you should do is get the installation kit and install it yourself. The dish needs to be tweaked every six months or so for the best reception.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:27:17 PM EDT
Dish Network / Echostar - IMHO is cheaper - and offers more and better programming :001:
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:28:26 PM EDT
All in all I think they are all about the same. I have Dish Network, and get the local channels by a antenna on a very long pole. I've got the full package, and can't ever find a good movie to watch on Sunday morning.[:(!]
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:30:52 PM EDT
I've had DirecTV for about four years, and I like it fine. Love the NFL Sunday Ticket.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 7:51:00 PM EDT
Lordtrader, As for mounting your dish. I found an easy way that doesn't make holes anywhere... Use a plumbing vent pipe, and a hose clamp. When I was "getting" Direct TV this setup worked out really well. The other thing that I learned when setting my dish up was that when you angle the dish for elevation, make sure that there no obstructions for another 15-30 degrees above. You would think that if you look where the dish is actually pointing and you have a clear line of sight you would be good. Nope, look up a bit more. To bad DaveTV fried my card. I have been to lazy to keep up and fix the damn thing.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 7:57:58 PM EDT
I am not very mechanically inclined so I think I will just take advantage of the free install. I also get frustrated very easily.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 8:03:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2001 8:04:44 PM EDT by kingcleophus]
Dish Network...but some of the picture quality seems to be a little softer than one would expect..I believe there is a newsgroup or two devoted to small satellite dish TV, with some topics on the SOFTNESS. Another thing is when you switch between channels, it takes a second or so for the channel to lock on and stabilize. I usually switch to the guide, search for what I am looking for, then switch to the channel. The one to get is the setup with two LNB's to catch two adjacent satellites for most of the channels...They call this setup...DISH 500........They make various receivers..with VCRs built in, DVD, TIVO, even WEB tv, as well as HDTV.........Their latest is broadband WEB..it's called STARBAND receive and TRANSMIT to the bird.......
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 8:08:31 PM EDT
No shame in that lordtrader. Besides if the install guy messes up, just call and get THEM to fix it! [;)] Plus they have an "aiming box" (I know wrong name). But it just checks the signal strength while at the dish. Do it your selfer's have to aim dish, look at TV to check strength, aim dish, look at TV... a lot of trial an error. I do agree with going with DishNetwork. DaveTV was geat for the "hobbiest". That is why there are more "subscribers" to DaveTV than DishNetwork. But personally I think DishNetwork has a better selection. Besides, now with the revision of the FCC you can subscribe to local broadcasts without resorting to putting up a second arial, switch boxes. (Man I miss getting the local channels from across the country. I could line the Simpsons for 5 hours of viewing pleasure. See shows before anyone else in the neighborhood. But I am no longer a "Hobbiest", sigh)
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 8:20:44 PM EDT
"It's just a hobby". . . Solid Simpsons from 3:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. I can watch your local news. . . :-)
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 2:51:04 AM EDT
We've got a DISH system here. It's great. Highly recommend
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 3:25:40 AM EDT
dish sucks p hate mine when my 1 year contract is up it's back to cable
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 3:31:23 AM EDT
I have Direct TV. They had a better deal here. Cox was actually more expensive when you figured in the equipment rental fees, etc. in this area at least. Cox also seemed to be going out on me ALL THE TIME as well. I wasn't too satisfied with their service either. They'd give me a day to be home and the guy would show up the day before or after and leave a note that I wasn't there and I needed to reschedule. That's time lost at work and money out of my pocket. I've been very happy with satellite over cable. The dish does go out when it rains really hard, like during thunderstorms. Then the sat signal gets lost. Ross
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 5:15:24 AM EDT
Got dish network-they are giving away receiver and installation. Have not had much trouble with it at all. Problem wish any dish system is you need a decoder(reciever) more or less at each TV. Sunday ticket is only available on direct tv BUT their exclusive contract runs out very soon and EVERYBODY will have it available. MAke dure you get at least the dish500 system, and i would suggest getting the 2 reciever setup right off the bat since you have to run 2 coax cables for EACH reciever (From the dish anyway) Let someone else run all them wires! If you have any more questions, post them or e-mail.
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 5:26:16 AM EDT
The Dish network is concidering buying their last rival, Direct TV. I used to have Direct TV the picture AND sound quality were AWESOME. I also got NFL Sunday Ticket which was great. BUT, If you watch a lot of News, Sitcoms, and local sports it is not for you. Most people can't get NBC, ABC, FOX, and CBS unless you are rural and even then you might get the news from 1000 miles away. You can just tune it in through the airwaves? Why did I spend all this money to have my favorite channels come in WORSE then cable? Since about 75% of what I watch is on the big 4 I didn't like Direct TV. Also it is much more expensive when you concider the equipment, installation, the fact that you have to have boxes for EVERY tv, the extra charge PER box, etc. etc. Bottom line is Digital Cable is a better choice and regular cable is a smarter option when price and programing are concidered IMO.
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 5:41:07 AM EDT
dont fall for "digital" cable. remember you have to have a box for each tv with cable too. (unless they have changed something since I had cable) I did like cable-except almost every month the bill went up. I was paying 50 bucks a month for cable WITH NO MOVIE CHANNELS!!!
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 8:53:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ShortyAK: "It's just a hobby". . . Solid Simpsons from 3:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
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How do you manage that? GunLvr
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 12:01:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2001 12:00:14 PM EDT by kingcleophus]
A side for pure_evil...I found a picture on the web with your name on it..Is this YOU?????? [img]http://home.earthlink.net/~jeffh99708/aolsucks/evil.gif [/img]
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 1:00:38 PM EDT
I got DirecTV because at the time Dish Network didn't have Speedvision. Other than that, I could see very little difference in their offerings or price. Setup was extremely easy - I just dug a hole in the ground, drove in the appropriate diameter 10 ft section of pipe (I used conduit), threw a bag of Sacrete in the hole and added water. Next day I filled in the rest of the hole, mounted the dish, and started surfing. The picture and sound quality are excellent. Cable here is not an option since where I live the cable company is run by a bunch of inbred morons. They only have like 30 channels and still rely on crystal traps to keep the HBO out of your set. Just one HBO, no Max, no Showtime, No NOTHING. I get the big 4 via an antenna just fine so I'm a happy camper. I didn't know that Dishnetwork was trying to buy DirecTV though....
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 4:40:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kingcleophus: A side for pure_evil...I found a picture on the web with your name on it..Is this YOU?????? [img]http://home.earthlink.net/~jeffh99708/aolsucks/evil.gif [/img]
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HEY!! Where did you get that? My secret identity has been revealed! Yes, I am Steve Case, CEO of America Online. I am a gun-nut. Whew, that feels so much better now that I am out of the closet. FREE GUNS TO ALL NEW AOL SUBSCRIBERS!!!
Link Posted: 5/26/2001 7:34:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 5:25:00 PM EDT
Gunlvr, multiple local feeds from all over the country. You need to have one of the older (222) series DTV boxes. I used to watch the east coast feed of Jeopardy and then go to my local hangout and win drinks from my friends when it was shown here. Until they got wise that is. . . then I had to buy for a week straight. :-)
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 7:24:43 PM EDT
Get direct tv and find an H card [;)] you will be oh so happy you did [:D] Craiger
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 7:34:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 9:13:17 PM EDT
DirectTV. Love it.
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 9:44:50 PM EDT
I've had Dish since '97. Direct TV has the extra cost pro sports. Dish has the Superstations and XXX porn. Dish was way ahead on price when I bought mine. If you look around a bit you should be able to find a free or low cost system now. Dennis Jenkins
Originally Posted By lordtrader: Dish Network or Direct TV. Are there any other out there? My complaint is that ATT digital cable doesn't have all the chanels I want. COX digital cable had most. ATT only has a fraction of it. Specially porn
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Link Posted: 5/29/2001 9:45:15 PM EDT
Lord "T", One thing I can tell you: After a tornado rips the roof off of your house you can get a generator and a TV and still watch TV with a DirecTV set up...Unless the dish went with the roof!! I had a friend who's house was ripped a new asshole from that May 3rd OKC tornado. He watched over his house and his stuff in Del City. He borrowed a TV and a shotgun from me, he found his DirecTV antenna, he bought a generator and he watched TV all night long at his house. His house was the place to be when the sun went down!
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 11:11:11 PM EDT
I was told as fast as things are changing, that renting the equipment for just a tad more might be the way to go. I think it was about 5 bucks more a month. Any truth there? I know the equipment is free now, but if it's outdated in a year or two, so what?
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 7:04:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ShortyAK: Gunlvr, multiple local feeds from all over the country. You need to have one of the older (222) series DTV boxes.
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Thanks, I didn't know this was possible with DirectTV! GunLvr
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 7:19:13 AM EDT
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