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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:26:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cancard]
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:30:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual]
yes
ETA: make sure to set it up for peak operational operations 
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USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:31:44 PM EDT
Undoubtedly.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:32:26 PM EDT
 Yeah you need one. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:33:03 PM EDT
Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.
The POF guns especially have issues. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:38:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dog1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolfy42: Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent. The POF guns especially have issues. Bullshit. I'm at nearly 2,000 rounds since I bought mine in May. Suppressed and unsuppressed. There's nothing wrong with it and there's nothing cosmetically flawed with it. And any cosmetic flaws on mine is because I actually take it out and use it. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:40:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolfy42: Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent. The POF guns especially have issues. “That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.” |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:42:31 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Sputnik556: “That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.” Lol..so true |
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USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:42:44 PM EDT
I’m struggling not to buy a second one for the truck.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:44:00 PM EDT
My AP5 has been flawless.
115 gr Blazer Brass, Winchester, Fiochi, and Remington. Lots of Winchester 124 gr NATO and Inman 125 gr. And other random shit I can’t think of right now. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:45:20 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By PeteyPete: I’m struggling not to buy a second one for the truck. I'm seriously considering a k model |
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USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:48:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PeteyPete]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: I'm seriously considering a k model Same here. $1200 for a AP5p including a brace is killer deal for the “Under Siege” and “Die Hard” generation. Also, I haven’t shot my full size yet, but the action is smooth and the finish is fantastic. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:48:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6]
Originally Posted By cancard:And … go! No, YOU go! 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:54:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Punisher]
MP5 clones suck. That’s why I own 3 of them.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:54:14 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By PeteyPete: Same here. $1200 for a AP5p including a brace is killer deal for the “Under Siege” and “Die Hard” generation. Also, I haven’t shot my full size yet, but the action is smooth and the finish is fantastic. 100% That's kind of why I got mine LOL |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:56:36 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:02:44 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Wolfy42: Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent. The POF guns especially have issues. Literally not a single thing you said was correct. We are all stupider for having read this. Congrats. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:06:20 PM EDT
If I taped over the toll marks, you’d have a heck of a time distinguishing them. The only tell-tale is the finishing on the bolt and barrel, both of which are cleaner on the Hk. I currently own an older MKE imported by Zenith, a PTR and two HKs. The Zenith is easily on par with the Hk guns in terms of reliability and the fit/finish in the HKs isn’t good enough to buy one over an $1100 AP5 if you’re buying a shooter.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:09:07 PM EDT
My Zenith MKEs are a blast and were totally worth it. I SBRed them and had to engrave them anyway so might as well do it on a cheaper gun.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:11:18 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By waz0wski: yes ETA: make sure to set it up for peak operational operations https://distortion.io/i/5BdjJW.jpg Nice. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:13:27 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:14:14 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Wolfy42: Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent. The POF guns especially have issues. Bullshit. Just picked one up, it's flawless. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:16:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:20:31 PM EDT
Couldn’t decide between the full size or the K so I bought both.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:23:37 PM EDT
You know you need 1.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:24:46 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By dino1: Couldn’t decide between the full size or the K so I bought both. #metoo |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:24:48 PM EDT
Yes
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:26:18 PM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By Wolfy42: Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent. The POF guns especially have issues. LOL. Moron. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:37:00 PM EDT
Yes.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:49:43 PM EDT
As a PTR-9 owner, yes, yes you need a MP5. Obviously.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 12:04:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Electricview]
I'll be honest, Absolutely 0 regret getting 2.. Will it say HK on it? NOPE, is that worth 3k more? HELL NO, these are SOLID and have good finishes, and fire beautifully. The ONLY gripe I had was a little mag wobble, but i bought a new magazine catch lever (US made) off Hkparts for 20 bucks now my mags lock up so tight, I can hardly get them in with a closed bolt, but they have 0 wobble. Everything else is fantastic. (the welds on the full size ap5 are SLIGHTLY better than the -p model i also got). IF it's going to bother you that it doesn't say HK, then save up.. If you just want to 100% scratch that mp5 itch with looks, feel and shoot-ability. these NAIL IT. hands down, no issues beyond that little wobble in mags.. (2-4mm nothing severe, and even without it fixed, I never could get it to miss-feed even when TRYING to do it, by holding the mag at different positions it was 100% reliable, so its a TINY thing).
LOVE EM.... stick to MKE-HK-POF mags tho, plastic sucks. Also compared to the POF I do not like the kind of 'old cz 82 shitty' shinny look paint job those have (just not my thing!) .. but some like the metal lower.. I like the more modern plastic/poly lower and its just as strong and sturdy as the metal) Get one and dont look back.... You wont regret it unless you NEED that rollmark. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 12:13:12 AM EDT
My MKE MP-5 clone from Zenith several years ago runs great. No complaints.
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USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 12:16:33 AM EDT
I'm holding out for PSA!
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Posted: 7/30/2022 12:18:45 AM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 12:20:58 AM EDT
Yes just got mine it’s incredibly soft shooting and really accurate. Most fun gun you can get for 1200
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MOZ
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Posted: 7/30/2022 4:38:03 AM EDT
Picked up a “P” model the other day for $1200. Welds are pretty good but, not perfect like on HKs.
Ordered a couple of spare MKE mags ($99) from Atlantic as well. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 4:38:41 AM EDT
Buy all of the 9mm Luger guns
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Posted: 7/30/2022 4:44:17 AM EDT
get a P version
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Posted: 7/30/2022 4:47:38 AM EDT
Do you even #Nakatomi ?
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Posted: 7/30/2022 5:04:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: imonkeyman]
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 5:08:23 AM EDT
Yes, op needs a AP5*
* I expect op to say the same for me when Century brings in a batch of 43P's i did not know about Zenith and MKE until after the partnership fell apart. So- unless HK is about to make a SP-43P or SP-33K whatever they will call it I will be needing the Century/MKE version |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 5:28:25 AM EDT
I just put my first 500 rounds through mine yesterday. No hiccups.
 Attached FileI'm seriously considering a k version now as well. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 5:40:24 AM EDT
Can someone please tell me how much quieter suppressed they are compared to a 8” cmmg banshee? Not sure how to quantify it, is it 80% the noise of a banshee or 50% of the noise?
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Posted: 7/30/2022 5:41:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmedPete]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolfy42: Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent. The POF guns especially have issues. The “real” HK is not even a 3 pin gun. My MKE Zenith has been 100% and my friends POF runs great. OP, take a look at the US made Zenith guns. I don’t have one yet, but when the K model drops I am grabbing one. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:01:18 AM EDT
Yes, you need a AP5. I just picked one up a few days ago and am very pleased with the fit and finish. I’ll be taking it to the range in a few days to test it out.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:16:32 AM EDT
In on this too. I know I want one, it just making the funds available and committing them too it.
I mean it looks like 1600-1900 for the gun, Then a 12-20 mags. a RDS of some sort. A stock, 200 Tax Stamp. Probably a different front rail, hand guard, furniture or whatever you want to call it. What else??? |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:35:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Starzec]
Hell yes, get two. I haven’t had this much fun shooting since I was a kid with a .22. I’m going all in with 2 stamps.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:48:33 AM EDT
I have a 2 stamp PTR 9ct, it is pure fun.
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USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:53:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Scott-S6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: “That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By Wolfy42: Buy a real HK. Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent. The POF guns especially have issues. “That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.” Also, go look at the welds on "real HKs". They're not exactly cosmetically perfect. But you should still buy the HK. Because the clones lack the teutonic elven magic. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:55:12 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By smullen: In on this too. I know I want one, it just making the funds available and committing them too it. I mean it looks like 1600-1900 for the gun, Then a 12-20 mags. a RDS of some sort. A stock, 200 Tax Stamp. Probably a different front rail, hand guard, furniture or whatever you want to call it. What else??? Might as well go all in and get a BFS-III trigger pack too  Doooooo EEeeeeet ! |
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USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:55:39 AM EDT
Quote History Originally Posted By smullen: In on this too. I know I want one, it just making the funds available and committing them too it. I mean it looks like 1600-1900 for the gun, Then a 12-20 mags. a RDS of some sort. A stock, 200 Tax Stamp. Probably a different front rail, hand guard, furniture or whatever you want to call it. What else??? A supressor. And a second gun. |
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