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Posted: 8/10/2011 11:02:19 AM EDT
That's the headline on Drudge.
Gov't considers turning foreclosures into rentals By DEREK KRAVITZ AP Economics Writer WASHINGTON (AP) –– The Obama administration may turn thousands of government-owned foreclosures into rental properties to help boost falling home prices. The Federal Housing Finance Agency said Wednesday it is seeking input from investors on how to rent roughly 250,000 homes owned by government-controlled mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration. All of the homes are foreclosures. The U.S. government rescued the two mortgage giants in September 2008 and has funded them since the financial crisis. Fannie and Freddie own or guarantee about half of the nation's mortgages and nearly all new mortgages. Converting the homes into rentals may reduce "credit losses and help stabilize neighborhoods and home values," said Edward DeMarco, acting director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which oversees Fannie and Freddie. ..... Link. |
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Holy shit, he really is going to spread the welath around.
Starting by giving your neighbor's house to a bunch of welfare rats. Marx himself couldn't have come up with a better plan. |
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The only thing that would do is drive neighborhood home prices even lower.
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If only there was a mechanism to correct this influx of unsold homes....
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The Federal Housing Finance Agency said Wednesday it is seeking input from investors...
And will then promptly ignore it, doing what they want to anyway. |
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Rentals dont help single family home prices, actually they tend to do the opposite.
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Holy shit, he really is going to spread the welath around. Starting by giving your neighbor's house to a bunch of welfare rats. Marx himself couldn't have come up with a better plan. Quoted:
The only thing that would do is drive neighborhood home prices even lower. I can't say it better than these two. |
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We are about to witness the power of that fully-opperational death star
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Quoted: If only there was a mechanism to correct this influx of unsold homes.... Fire? |
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If only there was a mechanism to correct this influx of unsold homes.... Fire? |
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Why is it that every time he opens his mouth I'm just stumped at the blatant ignorance and stupidity of this man.
You would think that I (we) would be used to this by now. |
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How will turning into free Section 8 housing help the balance sheet?
You know they are going to give it away... |
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I don't have a problem with this so long as it is done at market rates (ha ha, I know). If the government owns the property, and cannot sell it, then renting is a good way to ensure that the asset is not wasted. Lots of private owners are doing this as well.
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For the amount we have already spent on TARP, we could have bought those 250,000 homes and GIVEN them away!
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my wife and myself are renters,its what works for us.
we have never taken a hand out from anyone,so please dont lump us all into one category. |
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How does the government actually do this? Put a gun to the head of the owners (mostly banks) who bought the properties and make them rent them out?
Buy the foreclosed properties with all that money that the government has to spare these days? What a fucking terrible idea this is. |
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Quoted: For the amount we have already spent on TARP, we could have bought those 250,000 homes and GIVEN them away! We could have payed most of the mortgages in the nation. |
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So, now they're going to bankrupt legit rental companies by flooding the market with taxpayer funded properties?
Great. |
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Let's see...my neighbor lost his job thanks to Obama. That resulted in him losing his house. Again, thanks, Obama. Now Obama wants to rent out that house, probably for a ridiculously low amount to a welfare rat.
Gee, I can't wait for my property value to plummet. Thanks, Obama. |
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Not surprised.
This is exactly what Chavez did a few years after taking over the country. Google it. Now he has an almost bulletproof voting base. Even those that know better, and that are living in shit, would/still vote for him because of the free home they received. And the more I think about it, the more I see the genius of it: On one hand, this almost guarantees more disorder and violence in the future (lets see what happens when you mix honest, no bullshit taking citizens with Section 8 retreads), which will "force" the government to act to "preserve the peace" and pass more onerous, draconian laws. On the other hand... well, no, this wouldn't be a repeat of "white flight". In the past, a lot of people moved to the suburbs, away from the city centers. Over the last 10 years, it's been the reverse. Now... there really wouldn't be any "safe haven", so to speak. Yup, this a bucketful of fuck with dick sprinkles all over it. Enjoy. |
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Quoted: How does the government actually do this? Put a gun to the head of the owners (mostly banks) who bought the properties and make them rent them out? Buy the foreclosed properties with all that money that the government has to spare these days? What a fucking terrible idea this is. I think the government already owns the property. It is a question of how to dispose of it. |
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Quoted: Fuck. The house next door to me is a HUD foreclosure. Was. Was a HUD foreclosure before that terrible fire. |
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Quoted: We are about to witness the power of that fully-opperational debt star FIFY |
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Fuck. The house next door to me is a HUD foreclosure. Time to buy it. Make a lowball offer and see if they take it. |
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I don't have a problem with this so long as it is done at market rates (ha ha, I know). If the government owns the property, and cannot sell it, then renting is a good way to ensure that the asset is not wasted. Lots of private owners are doing this as well. You forgot to put "rent" in quotes. |
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my wife and myself are renters,its what works for us. we have never taken a hand out from anyone,so please dont lump us all into one category. The problem is not YOU guys. The problem is that "rent" is .gov codeword for "subsidized living". HUGE difference. |
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Let's socialize the housing industry! What could go wrong?
Creeping socialism? This is wide-the-fuck-open throttle socialism. BOHICA |
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For the amount we have already spent on TARP, we could have bought those 250,000 homes and GIVEN them away! Well shit, I guess this means most of our state (FL) is now officially going to be Section 8. Does this mean I have to stop wearing belts and buy a pit bull? |
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How does the government actually do this? Put a gun to the head of the owners (mostly banks) who bought the properties and make them rent them out? Buy the foreclosed properties with all that money that the government has to spare these days? What a fucking terrible idea this is. I think the government already owns the property. It is a question of how to dispose of it. Yeah, I think you're right - they're houses owned by Fannie/Freddie already. At this point they should just burn them to the ground. If nothing else, it will reduce all the excess inventory. |
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Quoted: I don't have a problem with this so long as it is done at market rates (ha ha, I know). If the government owns the property, and cannot sell it, then renting is a good way to ensure that the asset is not wasted. Lots of private owners are doing this as well. Most people that I talk to "in a situation" say that renting wouldn't cover the note and taxes. |
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I can actually see my redneck neighbor across the street trashing these homes to make them unrentable, just to keep shitheads out.
He lives between two foreclosed homes. He's already pissed because the mortgage company only mows them about once a month and they do such a shitty job, it looks like a cut hay field when they are done. |
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Once they move in, you'll never get them out.
They will never work again and we will be fixing their houses for them. Private landlords will never be able to compete with taxpayer-funded rivals. Look for another avalanche of foreclosures as homeowners decided to bail and take the easy route - and stay in their own home. Yeah. I don't see any problems with this idea. |
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Quoted: my wife and myself are renters,its what works for us. we have never taken a hand out from anyone,so please dont lump us all into one category. I'm a renter too. It's not about "renters" it's about redistribution. In other words, you won't be getting nice neighbors, you'll be getting section 8 trash and all the kids they shit out. |
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The only thing that would do is drive neighborhood home prices even lower. Yep |
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Quoted: How does the government actually do this? Put a gun to the head of the owners (mostly banks) who bought the properties and make them rent them out? Buy the foreclosed properties with all that money that the government has to spare these days? What a fucking terrible idea this is. The banks would dump the properties, gov. would probably pay them top dollar. I reckon the banks are jerking off at the thought of dumping all the foreclosures they're fucked with. |
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Is there an easy way to see how many foreclousures are in your neighborhood?
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Actually this is my idea for Social Security Buyout.
For every 10 years you've paid in, you're given 50k towards a Gov owned (forclosed) home. Might suck in California where you're 2 bedroom 1 bath starter runs $250k, but hey. In exchange for your home, you're still paying your soc security just like a tax, and you get drastically reduced (25% stipend) at the end. Younger tax payers get the chance to start with a house rather than living in an apartment, or older homeowners look at their vacation property, or persons can use it for a rental or what have you. Problem is solved. So to recap: Every 10 years, 50kworth of Foreclosed home. You have 40 years in, cash it out, thats 200k lumpsum vacation home, but you're only getting your $200 from Uncle Sam when you retire. Foreclosed homes issues are solved. Home ownership gets righted. What persons do with these funds, who cares. It's their government paid reimbursement for the last 10 years of social security payment. Yes I am fully aware that max annual contribution is just about $11K, so based upon total payin, some one working a 40k a year job would intially make out quite well on the deal, BUT you do not have continual year after year payment of which the average according to the SSA is $14k a year. $5K a year foreclosure value + $2400 stipend = $7400 a year < $14k a year current average benefit. You don't want your buyout? |
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How does the government actually do this? Put a gun to the head of the owners (mostly banks) who bought the properties and make them rent them out? Buy the foreclosed properties with all that money that the government has to spare these days? What a fucking terrible idea this is. I think the government already owns the property. It is a question of how to dispose of it. Yeah, I think you're right - they're houses owned by Fannie/Freddie already. At this point they should just burn them to the ground. If nothing else, it will reduce all the excess inventory. I have a better idea. Give real estate to people that have paid money into socialist insecurity. I have paid several hundred thousands of dollars to ss. Let me get that same value in real estate to cancel out the govt's ss obligation to me. Straight up trade: Their ss indebtedness to me for real estate. Dang beat by a minute. |
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Quoted: Is there an easy way to see how many foreclousures are in your neighborhood? I don't think you can get an accurate number due to the fact that banks have been sitting on them. People have been living in houses for over a year while making no payments. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How does the government actually do this? Put a gun to the head of the owners (mostly banks) who bought the properties and make them rent them out? Buy the foreclosed properties with all that money that the government has to spare these days? What a fucking terrible idea this is. I think the government already owns the property. It is a question of how to dispose of it. Yeah, I think you're right - they're houses owned by Fannie/Freddie already. At this point they should just burn them to the ground. If nothing else, it will reduce all the excess inventory. I have a better idea. Give real estate to people that have paid money into socialist insecurity. I have paid several hundred thousands of dollars to ss. Let me get that same value in real estate to cancel out the govt's ss obligation to me. Straight up trade: Their ss indebtedness to me for real estate. Fat chance. Government programs are only for those who don't pay into the system. |
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How does the government actually do this? Put a gun to the head of the owners (mostly banks) who bought the properties and make them rent them out? Buy the foreclosed properties with all that money that the government has to spare these days? What a fucking terrible idea this is. I think the government already owns the property. It is a question of how to dispose of it. Yeah, I think you're right - they're houses owned by Fannie/Freddie already. At this point they should just burn them to the ground. If nothing else, it will reduce all the excess inventory. I have a better idea. Give real estate to people that have paid money into socialist insecurity. I have paid several hundred thousands of dollars to ss. Let me get that same value in real estate to cancel out the govt's ss obligation to me. Straight up trade: Their ss indebtedness to me for real estate. Interesting... Besides the obvious crookedness that could occur, this may be a good way to cancel some of the government's unfunded liabilities. |
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What is this idiot going to do next? Is there anything that the government touches that doesn't immediately turn to crap? |
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