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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:30:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:31:16 PM EDT
I'm moving to Yemen, it's kid friendly right
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:32:29 PM EDT
I thought you had saved 15% on your car insurance by switching to Geico
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:32:45 PM EDT
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Only if you want to marry one.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:33:58 PM EDT
You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. Isoroku Yamamoto  ...
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:34:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:35:19 PM EDT
'Cause Murica!

Freedom!
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:37:04 PM EDT
Im glad to contribute to that number
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:40:17 PM EDT
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Ditto
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:40:48 PM EDT
I'm doing my part.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:41:08 PM EDT
Mexico isn't that far down.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:41:43 PM EDT
I say we go for 100 per 100...sounds like a nice ratio
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:47:16 PM EDT
China looks suspicious, is it military who has them? They are not free people
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:51:41 PM EDT
The source for that is not credible by any measure. Considering their agenda and methods, it's most likely that all of the countries listed, including USA, have way less firearms in reality than in the SAS statistics, which is a mix and match of official, credible statistics based on some actual measurable number (such as manufacturing, imports, exports, confiscations, licenses, etc.) and a huge fudge factor of unofficial, anti-gun org sourced “guessimates” of illegal and/or (for them the same) untracked firearms. Basically they are applying a method of that is akin to counting all legally sold prescription drugs and adding to that some illegal drug numbers sourced from some War Against Drugs pushing think tank that arrives at that figure by asking college kids how many of them have ever tried drugs (almost all have smoked pot) and then extrapolating that number to the whole population.

OTOH, if you think a society with lots of guns is a polite society (or rather, less of a smoking hole in the ground like places overrun by Boko Haram in Afrika, which would see a quadrupling of the life expectancy of young men and girls by just dropping a crate of AKs and a limited supply of ammo to every village), then you might rejoice at their hugely inflated numbers. But remember, these same numbers are used to drive gun control/arms trafficing bans in a global scale. They are pure brand propaganda.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 10:53:05 PM EDT
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The source for that is not credible by any measure. Considering their agenda and methods, it's most likely that all of the countries listed, including USA, have way less firearms in reality than in the SAS statistics, which is a mix and match of official, credible statistics based on some actual measurable number (such as manufacturing, imports, exports, confiscations, licenses, etc.) and a huge fudge factor of unofficial, anti-gun org sourced “guessimates” of illegal and/or (for them the same) untracked firearms. Basically they are applying a method of that is akin to counting all legally sold prescription drugs and adding to that some illegal drug numbers sourced from some War Against Drugs pushing think tank that arrives at that figure by asking college kids how many of them have ever tried drugs (almost all have smoked pot) and then extrapolating that number to the whole population.

OTOH, if you think a society with lots of guns is a polite society (or rather, less of a smoking hole in the ground like places overrun by Boko Haram Afrika, which would see a quadrupling of the life expectancy of young man and girls by just dropping a crate of AKs and a limited supply of ammo to every village), then you might rejoice at their hugely inflated numbers. But remember, these same numbers are used to drive gun control/arms trafficing bans in a global scale. They are pure brand propaganda.
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The source for that is not credible by any measure. Considering their agenda and methods, it's most likely that all of the countries listed, including USA, have way less firearms in reality than in the SAS statistics, which is a mix and match of official, credible statistics based on some actual measurable number (such as manufacturing, imports, exports, confiscations, licenses, etc.) and a huge fudge factor of unofficial, anti-gun org sourced “guessimates” of illegal and/or (for them the same) untracked firearms. Basically they are applying a method of that is akin to counting all legally sold prescription drugs and adding to that some illegal drug numbers sourced from some War Against Drugs pushing think tank that arrives at that figure by asking college kids how many of them have ever tried drugs (almost all have smoked pot) and then extrapolating that number to the whole population.

OTOH, if you think a society with lots of guns is a polite society (or rather, less of a smoking hole in the ground like places overrun by Boko Haram Afrika, which would see a quadrupling of the life expectancy of young man and girls by just dropping a crate of AKs and a limited supply of ammo to every village), then you might rejoice at their hugely inflated numbers. But remember, these same numbers are used to drive gun control/arms trafficing bans in a global scale. They are pure brand propaganda.



I'm cool with that.  Post up what you consider better numbers.

Perhaps the greatest barrier to resolving debates over gun policy is the lack of comprehensive data. Although the UN Arms Register tries to keep track of major weapons holdings, there is no global reporting system for small arms. Some countries make information available about the small arms of their armed forces and law enforcement agencies; others release estimated data on public ownership. Most refuse to release anything, release rough estimates or simply do not know.[citation needed]

According to the 2007 edition of the Small Arms Survey, there are at least 639 million firearms in the world, although the actual total is almost certainly considerably higher.[19] This number increases by approximately 8 million every year, for a total economic impact of about USD$7 billion annually.[citation needed]

The Small Arms Survey figures are estimates, based on available national figures and field research in particular countries. They give a general sense of trends and the scale of the number of small arms.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:01:59 PM EDT
They can't even spell Colombia correctly!
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:04:10 PM EDT
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Wait a minute, I'm Columbian.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:13:08 PM EDT
no guns in Canada
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:16:20 PM EDT
No wonder Brazil has such low crime compared to the USA.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:17:44 PM EDT
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I wish people would stop regurgitating this feel-good nonsense. It's fiction.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:20:12 PM EDT
Is this this registered or actual.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:20:55 PM EDT
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Wait a minute, I'm Columbian.
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Wait a minute, I'm Columbian.


Well I am too, from Columbia, SC. But not the country of Colombia.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:21:30 PM EDT
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Top 3:
USA, BATFE, 310 million, the SAS figure of 8 years ago was 270 million and growth rate 10 million a year, so if they published today, expect 350 million at least or +12%
Serbia, Interior Ministry: 1.1 million legal, 0.9 million illegal = 2 million total, SAS added 2.2 million for 4.2 million total, +109%, over doubled the more credible local number
Yemen, Foreign Ministry, “unlikely over 15 million”, SAS figure quietly revised down from 50 million to 14 million (a drop of -72%), when people realised Yemenis couldn't even afford that 50 mil figure
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Finland, Interior Ministry, 1.6 million legal, 0.02 million illegal, SAS added another 0.8 million for 2.4 million total, +50%, their numbers believed only by raving antigun lunatics (Finland was 3rd place in that idiotic listing for a while because of those 800,000 phantom guns dreamed of in Geneva).

Of the Yemeni 15 million figure, it has been arrived at by simply counting the number of gun bearing age males and then assuming each one has 3 guns! In a poor war torn country. The Interior Ministry 15 million figure is simply the absolute upper bound what is economically feasible and “unlikely over” should more accurately be understoond as “no way even this much”. Most of those folks have only one AK and that's it. Even a kindergartner could make a more realistic estimate by simply assuming the gun per person is more in line with typical hunting societies, so 5-7 million tops. And that would put the SAS figure at +100% again.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 11:31:22 PM EDT
Sorry, but the fact that our Commonwealth brothers (UK/CAN/AUS/NZ) don't even rate high enough to be listed on either of those charts is embarrassing.





Link Posted: 7/1/2015 12:02:15 AM EDT
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The source for that is not credible by any measure. Considering their agenda and methods, it's most likely that all of the countries listed, including USA, have way less firearms in reality than in the SAS statistics, which is a mix and match of official, credible statistics based on some actual measurable number (such as manufacturing, imports, exports, confiscations, licenses, etc.) and a huge fudge factor of unofficial, anti-gun org sourced “guessimates” of illegal and/or (for them the same) untracked firearms. Basically they are applying a method of that is akin to counting all legally sold prescription drugs and adding to that some illegal drug numbers sourced from some War Against Drugs pushing think tank that arrives at that figure by asking college kids how many of them have ever tried drugs (almost all have smoked pot) and then extrapolating that number to the whole population.

OTOH, if you think a society with lots of guns is a polite society (or rather, less of a smoking hole in the ground like places overrun by Boko Haram in Afrika, which would see a quadrupling of the life expectancy of young men and girls by just dropping a crate of AKs and a limited supply of ammo to every village), then you might rejoice at their hugely inflated numbers. But remember, these same numbers are used to drive gun control/arms trafficing bans in a global scale. They are pure brand propaganda.

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While you may be right on with your take on the bias in the SAS figures and methodology, there is a great deal more involved in establishing an armed society than simply dumping firearms and ammo in the midst of a village.  

However, it might be a good first step.  

Link Posted: 7/1/2015 6:19:20 PM EDT
The US number is somewhere around 320,000,000 today.

Basically we have a gun for every man, woman, boy, girl, and baby.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 6:23:40 PM EDT
Why is nobody invading Japan ?
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 6:53:41 PM EDT
ill bet the us is actually more like 400 million guns..
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 6:57:34 PM EDT
"....a rifle behind every blade of grass"  
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:05:48 PM EDT
Weird, I mentioned the blade of grass line on a different thread today.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:08:05 PM EDT
Serbian chicks are hot!
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