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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:00:41 PM EDT
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.50 GI
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:01:57 PM EDT
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.45 super.
I converted my G21 with just a spring change. (22lb). it will also fire regular ACP but the cases only eject about 4" from the port. Regardless, it will reliably fire both power levels with nothing more than a $25 spring change. It has impressive power for it's size (the others being more powerful but also more expensive to accomplish) You have to buy specialized cases regardless and .45 super seems to be cheaperr than the other sizes. Plus I can load for the supers in my 45 colt Redhawk convertible. I get 1200 fps out of my Glock and 1175fps out of my Redhawk. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:02:26 PM EDT
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10mm
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:03:13 PM EDT
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Since you say that you would occasionally carry it, I would go with the .45 Super.
Because you can have a .45 Super and it doesn't require a compensator. And, it looks and feels more impressive than the other two. (Doesn't sound more impressive, however). Anyway, that's my opinion. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:03:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:05:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:05:30 PM EDT
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460
You can fire 45ACP and 45 Super out of it as well. Have them all. Why limit yourself? |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:05:30 PM EDT
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Put to get the most views, I want a MAGA pistol. Put more honestly, I really like guns, I like powerful stuff, I'm very unreasonable with my wants, and I can afford to get into either without reloading. I have no plan for this gun other to shoot it, enjoy it, and maybe carry it occasionally because this is America. Also my G21 sits unused. It has to go back...to amusing me. What would you go with? A 6" 9x25 is my choice there. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:09:08 PM EDT
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10mm |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:09:50 PM EDT
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.50 GI Medium list. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:11:08 PM EDT
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460 You can fire 45ACP and 45 Super out of it as well. Have them all. Why limit yourself? |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:11:56 PM EDT
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I can't say the super is the best but my converted Springfield loaded can still shoot cheap ball.
If I need more than 255 grain hardcast at 1100fps I'll grab my .45 Redhawk or Blackhawk |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:12:11 PM EDT
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A 6" 9x25 is my choice there. It'd probably be loud as shit and ridiculous...but I kind of want that. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:12:40 PM EDT
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9x25 Dillon. I need to get a barrel for my G40.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:13:10 PM EDT
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9x25 all the way.
Throwing a big bullet slightly faster than normal is cool and all, but sending a smaller bullet REALLYFUCKINFAST is more fun. Load that bitch up with some 90gr XTP's and a highly ill advised amount of Blue Dot, 2000 FPS out of a handgun here we come!
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:13:27 PM EDT
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Already have one. Good suggestion, but already done. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:13:57 PM EDT
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I can't say the super is the best but my converted Springfield loaded can still shoot cheap ball. If I need more than 255 grain hardcast at 1100fps I'll grab my .45 Redhawk or Blackhawk I don't "need" any of these to fill a gap, I just want some ridiculous in my handgun life. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:17:08 PM EDT
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You're thinking reasonably. I live in the suburbs. I don't "need" any of these to fill a gap, I just want some ridiculous in my handgun life. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't say the super is the best but my converted Springfield loaded can still shoot cheap ball. If I need more than 255 grain hardcast at 1100fps I'll grab my .45 Redhawk or Blackhawk I don't "need" any of these to fill a gap, I just want some ridiculous in my handgun life. 
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:17:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:21:14 PM EDT
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If I were to do it, it would be 460.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:23:25 PM EDT
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How about 10mm necked to .40 caliber ? |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:25:22 PM EDT
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If I were to do it, it would be 460. I think I'm off cheap. So you'd go big fatties over 10mm necked sprinters? |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:26:32 PM EDT
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9x23
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:26:51 PM EDT
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How about a .45 necked down to a .40? 400 cor-bon I like extremes. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:36:03 PM EDT
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9x23 It also solved the problem of trying to load the ancient, 1920s-era "38 Super" to the old IPSC power factor for "major" (the old power factor meant a 124 grain bullet needed to go faster than 1,411 FPS out of a custom, wide body 1911 or 2011). The "super" sometimes blew up cases, coining the term "super face" (ie lots of pock marks from exploding cases). 9x23 has ample case strength for the job. The 9x25 Dillon did the same thing with the benefit (??) of more gas to "work the compensator" while producing huge fireballs and lots of excessive noise. You can buy factory 9x23mm. Not so much with the Dillon (though there might be one or two boutique loaders). |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:39:06 PM EDT
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The S&W 625 revolver can handle 45 Super without modification.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:39:07 PM EDT
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Speaking honestly, it's basically between cheap, heavy or fast. I think I'm off cheap. So you'd go big fatties over 10mm necked sprinters? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I were to do it, it would be 460. I think I'm off cheap. So you'd go big fatties over 10mm necked sprinters? For me, I like mass and diameter. I have always been a big bore kind of guy. 480 Ruger for me. 
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:41:15 PM EDT
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45 Win Mag, .475 Wildey Magnum.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:43:12 PM EDT
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9x23mm Winchester literally began life as a sawed-off 556 case and was designed to operate at 55,000 PSI peak chamber pressure. It also solved the problem of trying to load the ancient, 1920s-era "38 Super" to the old IPSC power factor for "major" (the old power factor meant a 124 grain bullet needed to go faster than 1,411 FPS out of a custom, wide body 1911 or 2011). The "super" sometimes blew up cases, coining the term "super face" (ie lots of pock marks from exploding cases). 9x23 has ample case strength for the job. The 9x25 Dillon did the same thing with the benefit (??) of more gas to "work the compensator" while producing huge fireballs and lots of excessive noise. You can buy factory 9x23mm. Not so much with the Dillon (though there might be one or two boutique loaders). |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:47:04 PM EDT
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Honestly, I don't know what your intended purpose is. For me, I like mass and diameter. I have always been a big bore kind of guy. 480 Ruger for me. http://m8.i.pbase.com/u34/terry_56/upload/33180148.480Ruger.jpg Your Ruger is real nice. I keep trying to sell myself on a SW500, but I can't close on myself. Too much, too expensive, really not a viable carry option even being a gun nut. That's why I'm leaning towards powerful loadings in a common platform. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:47:15 PM EDT
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400CB is cool, but it's not as fast or as heavy as the other options. I like extremes. This is a standard loading for the 460. You can also get the CCR Glock/1911 upper chambered in 460. That's a hoot to shoot as well. You will easily go well over the 1000ft lbs with that. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:48:13 PM EDT
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Since this is a MAGA pistol, it has to be in .45 caliber since DJT is the 45th POTUS. .45 Super!
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:51:40 PM EDT
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A 460 Rowland or 45 super with a 275gr FN Hunters Supply cast bullet will kill anything in North America.
https://www.glocktalk.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg694%2F7087%2F8gz2.jpg&hash=e872dd898ef04272d6a5a52afcb4bbff |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:55:42 PM EDT
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Extreme is a .45 dia bullet weighing 185 gr moving at 1550 FPS making 1000ftlbs of energy. This is a standard loading for the 460. You can also get the CCR Glock/1911 upper chambered in 460. That's a hoot to shoot as well. You will easily go well over the 1000ft lbs with that. 460 is pretty awesome and versatile, Dillon is ridiculous. Hmm. Versatile or ridiculous? (Within already overkill calibers) |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:56:38 PM EDT
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A 460 Rowland or 45 super with a 275gr FN Hunters Supply cast bullet will kill anything in North America. https://www.glocktalk.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg694%2F7087%2F8gz2.jpg&hash=e872dd898ef04272d6a5a52afcb4bbff |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:56:54 PM EDT
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5.7x28?
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:58:51 PM EDT
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Rowland, for sure.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:04:28 PM EDT
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I had my S&W 325 Thunder Ranch converted to .460 Rowland. Recoil is "stout".
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:06:46 PM EDT
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.50 GI .460Rowland all the way. ( I want a conversion for my 1911... i'll buy one eventually) |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:17:58 PM EDT
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For those that own it, is there a large difference when shooting between a compensated or a ported 460?
I'm thinking on a G21 ported would be fine, but I've never even shot the round. Just trying to expand my wants. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:28:50 PM EDT
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For those that own it, is there a large difference when shooting between a compensated or a ported 460? I'm thinking on a G21 ported would be fine, but I've never even shot the round. Just trying to expand my wants. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:31:42 PM EDT
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Properly compensated will do better than a ported. Hands down.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:46:45 PM EDT
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Properly compensated will do better than a ported. Hands down. Aside from ammo cost, this isn't exactly a big project. I might end up doing a conversion on my G21 and a barrel for my G20 and getting both. (460 + Dillon ) Rear slide weight seems unnecessary on a G21, right? I'd think that's for smaller frames. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:48:51 PM EDT
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The S&W 625 revolver can handle 45 Super without modification. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 11:16:45 PM EDT
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9x23mm Winchester literally began life as a sawed-off 556 case and was designed to operate at 55,000 PSI peak chamber pressure. It also solved the problem of trying to load the ancient, 1920s-era "38 Super" to the old IPSC power factor for "major" (the old power factor meant a 124 grain bullet needed to go faster than 1,411 FPS out of a custom, wide body 1911 or 2011). The "super" sometimes blew up cases, coining the term "super face" (ie lots of pock marks from exploding cases). 9x23 has ample case strength for the job. The 9x25 Dillon did the same thing with the benefit (??) of more gas to "work the compensator" while producing huge fireballs and lots of excessive noise. You can buy factory 9x23mm. Not so much with the Dillon (though there might be one or two boutique loaders). |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 11:21:41 PM EDT
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I've been down the same road and considered the same calibers. I also reload.
.44 Mag is the way I went. Powerful, common, and fucking sweet. Ruger Blackhawk if you want to launch the crazy 300 GR loads. SW 629 if you want to keep it tame with 240 gr loads. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 11:28:05 PM EDT
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NO! it's stupid! Less ammunition capacity and less power than 10mm. .460Rowland all the way. ( I want a conversion for my 1911... i'll buy one eventually) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.50 GI .460Rowland all the way. ( I want a conversion for my 1911... i'll buy one eventually) I didn't think that you small bore fans would understand. 
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Posted: 6/1/2017 8:17:03 AM EDT
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9x23mm Winchester literally began life as a sawed-off 556 case and was designed to operate at 55,000 PSI peak chamber pressure. It also solved the problem of trying to load the ancient, 1920s-era "38 Super" to the old IPSC power factor for "major" (the old power factor meant a 124 grain bullet needed to go faster than 1,411 FPS out of a custom, wide body 1911 or 2011). The "super" sometimes blew up cases, coining the term "super face" (ie lots of pock marks from exploding cases). 9x23 has ample case strength for the job. The 9x25 Dillon did the same thing with the benefit (??) of more gas to "work the compensator" while producing huge fireballs and lots of excessive noise. You can buy factory 9x23mm. Not so much with the Dillon (though there might be one or two boutique loaders). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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9x23 It also solved the problem of trying to load the ancient, 1920s-era "38 Super" to the old IPSC power factor for "major" (the old power factor meant a 124 grain bullet needed to go faster than 1,411 FPS out of a custom, wide body 1911 or 2011). The "super" sometimes blew up cases, coining the term "super face" (ie lots of pock marks from exploding cases). 9x23 has ample case strength for the job. The 9x25 Dillon did the same thing with the benefit (??) of more gas to "work the compensator" while producing huge fireballs and lots of excessive noise. You can buy factory 9x23mm. Not so much with the Dillon (though there might be one or two boutique loaders).
I have 2 1/2 cases of factory 9x23 and a pistol too shoot it. 
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Posted: 6/1/2017 10:06:09 AM EDT
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.45 Super is intriguing. Tons of power, minimal modification to your pistol, reloading kit fairly readily available.
I think 9x25 is a cool concept but I assume it's concussion would be a genuine distraction. Can't say I know tons about 460. |
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Posted: 6/1/2017 11:22:11 AM EDT
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I thought I implied all of that with my post.
I have 2 1/2 cases of factory 9x23 and a pistol too shoot it. |
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