Believe it of not I wear my seat belt, I did not for many years. I even tried to defeat the law in New York State in court . When air bags were intoroduced it was said they were the replacement for seat belts. And when the seat belt law was first introduced it was promised that a seat belt ticket would never be enforced as a sole reason for a traffic stop. So much for that.

Anyway I refuse to be chimed into submission. I usually put my belt on after I am driving and the chime can be very annoying and sometimes I take my belt off to reach for things.

Now my Jeep is perfect.

I feel naked in my car without the seatbelt.  

Unrestricted cabin movement is NOT healthy long term...

Darwin will get you, you're next.





Bill

Not sure what to say.



Cool story bro?



Good work on disabling the safety restraint system reminder?

James Dean finally found the internet.

there are better hills (windshields) to die on

ETA won't this fail inspection?

way to stick it to the man

While the law is stupid, not wearing a seat belt by choice is even more stupid.    

You rebel, you!

I disabled mine also. I almost always wear my seat belt but those times that I'm not that mother fucker made me want to run into a bus.  The one in my buddies fusion is horrible, It gets louder and louder and louder.  I just tell him to put his damned seat belt on when I get in the car so I don't have to hear it.

I disagree that the law is stupid.  If you hit someone who isn't buckled up, you will likely do more harm to that person than if he had been buckled.  Since the law requires that I keep insurance on myself while driving, it should try to standardize and require seatbelts.  Afterall, it's not fair to me that a simple fender bender turns into an injury accident because someone is flexing his freedom to be stupid.

That's wholly untrue. No auto manufacturer EVER made that claim. In fact, being in an accident in a car with an airbag is probably MORE dangerous if you're not wearing a seat belt. That's why airbags are called Supplemental Restraint Systems.



 

Drive carefully, with the purpose of safety, as you are SUPPOSED to do and you avoid accidents that are your fault.  If getting your insurance raped is a direct result of an accident you are at fault for, it's completely fair.





 

I've never really noticed, because I tend to buckle up before I start moving. Ergo, no chime. It's kind of like disabling it, but with less effort. I'm a lazy bastard.



I applaud your "can do" attitude, though.

I love these threads because it causes all the live free or die types to suddenly become nanny staters all because of a little piece of fabric.

Since the law also requires you to contribute to welfare, shouldn't the law also require every individual to get a college education, submit to mandatory drug tests, and any other liberal wet dream they deem necessary to reduce what you have to pay in taxes?  

When I bought my most recent vehicle, I told the salesman that if it had one of the seatbelt chimes it was a dealbreaker. Long story short, I ended up with a new truck and no annoying "reminder." That doesn't mean I don't wear my seatbelt, but if I hop in the truck to drive aroud in the woods or something I don't want that shit beeping the whole time.

We all share the risk when we are driving.  We also share the liability.  It would be nice if the law levelled the playing field in terms of liability.

DUI is not allowed.  That is an act of levelling the playing field.  Seatbelt laws are another way (though I realize the difference between these two examples)

OK, that was pretty good.

I could care less if you are to stupid to want to wear a seat belt.

LMAO!

Yep. I turned the chime off too, however that was so that I can sit in the car with it running adn remove the seat belt. For example, when I am sitting in the lot between classes in the winter I can leave the car running without hearing the chime. I never drive without the belt.

 

Thank god the automatic lap belt went out of style.

Best thing evar when I worked at BurgerKing was when someone would drop their money in the drive through.  They'd open the door stick their head out, and get choked by their lap belt.  

Now now now, "Supplemental" is such a big word...





Bill

Before the seat belt laws here the insurance companies already had that covered.  Your injuries would be the least of your worries if they found out you weren't wearing a belt.

I bought a new Honda Civic this spring. The seatbelt chime is loud.

My driveway is long and I don't like putting on my seatbelt until I'm actually on the road.

I bought two small seatbelt extenders. They clip right on top of the factory seatbelt clip.

No more screaming chime and I can put my seatbelt on when I'm damn well ready.

Actually If the person not at fault for an accident and was injured in the accident, and that accident could have been prevented by wearing a seatbelt, a majority of the time the injury settlement will be reduced.  

I've seen it happen it many claims that I've handled (at least back when I was a claims adjuster, I've been out of the insurance industry for about 10 months now)

That was the first thing I did when I got my truck. Not everyone uses their vehicle just to drive on roads.

Our shop was for a time about 3/4 of a mile from the house on a private dirt road. The chime in our E-150 got really annoying since I never bothered to put on my seatbelt for the trip so I simply cut the wires and taped over them. The chime is disabled when the seatbelt separates the contractors in the seatbelt lock. I don't know how other mfg's do this but it was a stupid simple fix.

If you look in the owners manual there is a simple 30 second procedure to disable the chime. It's even simpler than cutting the wires and taping them over.

While I agree that a law forcing one to wear seat belts are stupid so are you for not wearing one in spite of the law.

"It'll never happen to me", it tends to happen when you least expect it.

Theres a chime for not wearing your seatbelt?

Wore the seatbelt in my truck 4 times.
1st time- Wrecked my truck
2nd time- Reckless Driving Ticket
3rd time- Skidded on black ice into another car
4th time- Hit a road reflector.


I don't wear my seatbelt.

ETA: I do in all vehicles except for mine. Just odd that way.

Also the fucking instant buzz or chime of starting the engine before you put your seatbelt on. Give me a fucking minute car, we're not even moving yet.

It can be turned off in ford trucks.

I turned mine off because I work construction and I'm in and out of my truck a lot driving around the job sites.

You never get more than 10 or 15 mph on a site and it sucks to have to put it on just to drive from one end of the site to the other

and have to listen to the fucking thing going off.

I grew up not wearing a seat belt . At the time no young man with any self respect would be seen wearing a seat belt. That was the culture at the time.
I now wear a seat belt every time I go anywhere in the car.

I disabled both the seatbelt warning and the damn open door warning chimes. I just searched around under the dash until I located the buzz unit(s) and pulled the connection(s).





Ed; I've been in 36 collisions in my time, including being thrown out of a car and pinned against a guardrail(that car didn't have seatbelts) and I ALWAYS wear my seatbelts since. I still have two cars that don't have seatbelts, but all my others have 3,4,5 or 6 point harnesses.



 

Your wrong


Air bags for passenger cars were introduced in the United States in the mid-1970s, when seat belt usage was not prevalent. Air bags were generally considered a convenient alternative to seat belts, while offering similar levels of protection to unbelted occupants in a head-on collision.

Want a Medal or a Chest to pin it on?

I have the chest. Thanks

That's not how I remember it.



Please provide a verifiable citation to back up your claim.



BTW, "were generally considered" doesn't mean jack shit.  The issue is what air bag proponents claimed.



 

Some (not all) S. American countries (whose leader may or may not be Chavez...) do not even sell cars with seatbelts installed.
You read that right. In Venezuela you can buy a car with the seatbelts removed. I've been in many Venezuelan cars/trucks with no seatbelts... tried looking for them and nada.
With the driving down there, you NEED a seatbelt.  

I need to do the same. Can you show a pic of what fuse you pulled?

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I remember exactly the claims that were made. I will see what I can find.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Air_bag

They are called "Supplemental" Restraint System (SRS) for a reason.

sup·ple·ment  (spl-mnt)
n.
1. Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole.
2. A section added to a book or document to give further information or to correct errors.
3. A separate section devoted to a special subject inserted into a periodical, such as a newspaper.
4. Mathematics The angle or arc that when added to a given angle or arc makes 180° or a semicircle. Also called supplementary angle.
tr.v. (-mnt) sup·ple·ment·ed, sup·ple·ment·ing, sup·ple·ments
To provide or form a supplement to.



Various manufacturers have over time used different terms for airbags. General Motors' first bags, in the 1970s, were marketed as the Air Cushion Restraint System (ACRS). Common terms in North America include Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) and Supplemental Inflatable Restraint (SIR); these terms reflect the airbag system's nominal role as a supplement to active restraints, i.e., seat belts. Because no action by the vehicle occupant is required to activate or use the airbag, it is considered a passive device. This is in contrast to seat belts, which are considered active devices because the vehicle occupant must act to enable them.[1][2][3][4][5] Note that this is not related to active and passive safety, which are, respectively, systems designed to prevent accidents in the first place and systems designed to minimize accidents once they occur. For example, the car's Anti-lock Braking System will qualify as an active-safety device while both its seatbelts and airbags will qualify as passive-safety devices. Further terminological confusion can arise from the fact that passive devices and systems — those requiring no input or action by the vehicle occupant — can themselves operate in an active manner; an airbag is one such device. Vehicle safety professionals are generally careful in their use of language to avoid this sort of confusion, though advertising principles sometimes prevent such syntactic caution in the consumer marketing of safety features.

As a supplemental restraint
Frontal airbag
The auto industry and research and regulatory communities have moved away from their initial view of the airbag as a seat belt replacement, and the bags are now nominally designated as Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) or Supplemental Inflatable Restraints.
In 1981, Mercedes-Benz introduced the airbag in Germany as an option on its high-end S-Class (W126). In the Mercedes system, the sensors would automatically pre-tension the seat belts to reduce occupant's motion on impact (now a common feature), and then deploy the airbag on impact. This integrated the seat belts and airbag into a restraint system, rather than the airbag being considered an alternative to the seat belt.
In 1987, the Porsche 944 turbo became the first car in the world to have driver and passenger airbags as standard equipment. The Porsche 944 and 944S had this as an available option. The same year also saw the first airbag in a Japanese car, the Honda Legend.[10]
Airbags became common in the 1980s, with Chrysler and Ford introducing them in the mid-1980s; it was Chrysler that made them standard equipment across its entire line in 1990 (except for trucks until 1995).[citation needed]
Audi was relatively late to offer airbag systems on a broader scale; until the 1994 model year, for example, the 80/90, by far Audi's 'bread-and-butter' model, as well as the 100/200, did not have airbags in their standard versions. Instead, the German automaker until then relied solely on its proprietary procon-ten restraint system.
In Europe, airbags were almost entirely absent from family cars until the early 1990s, except for Saab, who made them standard on the 900 Turbo in 1989 and on all models in 1990. The first European Ford to feature an airbag was the facelifted Escort MK5b in 1992; within a year, the entire Ford range had at least one airbag as standard. By the mid 1990s, European market leaders such as Vauxhall/Opel, Rover, Peugeot, Renault and Fiat had included airbags as at least optional equipment across their model ranges. By the end of the decade, it was very rare to find a mass market car without an airbag, and some late 1990s products, such as the Volkswagen Golf Mk4 also featured side airbags. The Peugeot 306 was a classical example of how commonplace airbags became on mass market cars during the 1990s. On its launch in early 1993 most of the range did not even have driver airbags as an option. By 1999 however, side airbags were available on several variants.
During the 2000s side airbags were commonplace on even budget cars, such as the smaller-engined versions of the Ford Fiesta and Peugeot 206, and curtain airbags were also becoming regular features on mass market cars. The Toyota Avensis, launched in 1998, was the first mass market car to be sold in Europe with a total of nine airbags. Although in some countries, such as Russia, airbags are still not standard equipment on all cars, such as those from Lada.
Variable force deployment front airbags were developed to help minimize injury from the airbag itself.




Bill

Yeah, Harry.  Duh.  He's way too muscular to even get a seatbelt on.  

I wear a seat belt. Every time I drive. If one of my kids undoes their seat belt, I will pull over as soon as possible, and get them back in...

The chimes are horrible. The door chime is the worst... On my Silverado it'd damned near blow your eardrums out it was so loud.





ETA: Wear your seatbelt. My friend had a blowout and rolled her car, was ejected and now has 8 discs in her spine fused and a 13" titanium rod in her left leg, broke all her ribs, had to re-learn how to walk and pretty much is in constant pain... She barely escaped death, says her doctors.





The other two passengers in the car were wearing seatbelts, and walked away with bumps and bruises.





It was an '06 Nissan Sentra. Airbags did deploy.



 

Damn you guys must have tough inspections. Here you just drive up. Tell the attendant you need an inspection sticker. He scrapes the old one off and puts the new one on and then you give him $10.

I just don't like the fact that cars chime at you for everything.  I just want them to shut up.  European cars apparently don't do this.  The guys on Top Gear always complain about the stupid chimes on American cars.



Thanks for posting this.  Reminded me to find out how to disable mine.  If I have stuff in the passenger seat, the car thinks someone is there and keeps beeping about the passenger seatbelt being unbuckled for a good minute before it finally gives up and stops.  Really damn annoying.

Get a seatbelt buckle from a junkyard and stick it  in the socket when you are driving around the deer lease or beach. No more chime.