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Posted: 7/12/2002 4:54:04 AM EST
And this election cycle, it just might be...Israel! [:D] Check out this story from the most DEMO-loving personality(?) on the FoxNEWS Network - Ellen Ratner! [size=4]All politics are international?[/size=4] Posted: July 12, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern The late, great Tip O'Neill once famously observed that all politics are local; but in our post 9-11 world, it seems some politics are less local than others. And what just happened in Alabama's Seventh Congressional District is a case in point. Last month, in the district's Democratic primary, incumbent Congressman Earl Hilliard was defeated by Artur Davis, a man he had soundly whipped two years earlier with 58 percent of the vote. But what makes this election particularly significant – and deeply troubling for the Democratic Party – is the evidence it provides that Jewish-Americans, so long a part of the liberal coalition that shaped politics in America during the last century, may be rethinking their politics. Because all that shouting in the Alabama Seventh could be heard all the way in Jerusalem, Ramallah, Detroit, New York City and Washington, D.C. On the surface, nothing looked amiss. Both Hilliard and the Harvard-educated Davis are established local attorneys, with long-standing liberal records, just about right for a Black Belt congressional seat created in a black-majority district in 1992. [b]But there was one issue that separated the two men – American support for the state of Israel. Hilliard doesn't much believe in it, while Davis does.[/b] In 1997, Hilliard junketed to Libya, in spite of that country's designation as a terrorist state. While the Treasury and the House Ethics Committee – mostly due to technicalities – later ruled the trip legal, Hilliard was sharply criticized by his colleagues in the House. Hilliard has openly cooperated with extremist Louis Farrakhan, and for this year's campaign, decided to become the poster boy for a number of Arab-Americans and their lobbies, taking campaign donations with abandon. Hilliard's campaign chest was empty after the 2000 election, but nobody doubts that his feelings for Arabs are genuine. - continued -
Link Posted: 7/12/2002 4:55:05 AM EST
Probably mirroring a similar combination of conviction and necessity, his opponent Artur Davis, became an outspoken supporter of Israel, traveling to New York City and reportedly raising some $150,000, mostly from prominent Jewish Democrats. In the meantime, the Congressional Black Caucus, some of whose members are very close to Arab-American interests, began leaking that if "outside influences" (apparently, only Jewish-Americans are "outside" while Arab-American contributions went unmentioned) resulted in the defeat of Hilliard, the Black Caucus would block any future support of Israel. [b]According to reports, only last-minute lobbying by Kweisi Mfume and other black leaders prevented an open breach.[/b] I think there's a huge warning flag here for the Democratic Party. For most of the last century, Jews and the Democratic Party were a match that seemed to be made in history. Coming from a Europe where political parties were based on race, language or religion, Jews were perpetual outsiders. Some arrived with sympathies already formed around the "out" parties of Europe – socialism and communism. Most just wanted to create lives for themselves and their families over here. But a majority would identify with the party that claimed to represent those who had also been on the fecal end of the European stick – workers, blacks, Irish, Italians and others who would eventually form the New Deal coalition that elected Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1932. Lately, as Jews and African Americans have split over such issues as affirmative action and foreign policy, the Democratic Party could always scare up Jewish loyalty by pointing to a supposedly anti-Semitic Christian Right. But, oh what a year brings! [b]According to polls, Sept. 11 and rising anti-Arab sentiment have left Israel with no better friend in this country than evangelical Americans.[/b] And it turns out that modern anti-Israel sentiment is more a function of left-wing identity politics – national liberation groups, European "socialists," and the gut anti-Americanism of the usual academics who automatically proclaim, "My country wrong, even when right." Right now, a petition is circulating around Harvard and MIT that calls for divestment from any investments which deal with Israel. Many American Jews have been stunned by these reactions. Some look around and no longer recognize a wing of the Democratic Party as belonging to the same party of their parents and grandparents. From their perspective, many wonder not if they've left the Party, but if the Party has left them. If something isn't done by Democrats to reverse course, they risk losing this historically key constituency. And it's not just Israel or affirmative action that has caused many Jews to worry. Some are afraid that their very humanity is being questioned by a left that seems increasingly unconcerned with the plight of the Jews and the state of Israel. [b]For the sake of my party, I hope it doesn't happen.[/b] See article at:[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28250[/url] Eric The(NowYouCan'tSayIsraelHasNeverDoneAnythingG­oodForTheUSA!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 7/12/2002 4:59:52 AM EST
If becoming an Israel supporter will stick it to Democrats, SIGN ME FRIGGEN UP!!!!!!!!!! Or at least, I'll enjoy pouring some salt on the wound. [}:D] garand(TheBigPicture)man
Link Posted: 7/12/2002 5:10:32 AM EST
What I thoroughly enjoy about this particular development is that it will be the very worst Democrats that will be most affected! The Northeastern Corridor DEMOs, the Black Caucus DEMOs, the 'Cheese and Croissant' DEMOs! The DEMOs in 'fly over country' will [u]not[/u] suffer much at all. Drats! Of course, those DEMOs will already be suffering from the patriotic backlash that Sept 11th helped bring about in almost every region in the country! Remember, the War Against the Renewal of the so-called Assault Rifle Ban in Spetember, 2004, will be won or lost according to the results of the Battle of November, 2002. Big enough Republican victory this year, will mean a very slim likelihood of renewal of the AWB in 2004! The GOP will never let it out of committee simply to avoid having President Bush face the quandry of signing or vetoing the bill, less than two months before the November 2004 Election! Eric The(AtLeastThat'sHowIReadTheTeaLeaves)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 7/13/2002 8:06:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: What I thoroughly enjoy about this particular development is that it will be the very worst Democrats that will be most affected! The Northeastern Corridor DEMOs, the Black Caucus DEMOs, the 'Cheese and Croissant' DEMOs! The DEMOs in 'fly over country' will [u]not[/u] suffer much at all. Drats! Of course, those DEMOs will already be suffering from the patriotic backlash that Sept 11th helped bring about in almost every region in the country! Remember, the War Against the Renewal of the so-called Assault Rifle Ban in Spetember, 2004, will be won or lost according to the results of the Battle of November, 2002. Big enough Republican victory this year, will mean a very slim likelihood of renewal of the AWB in 2004! The GOP will never let it out of committee simply to avoid having President Bush face the quandry of signing or vetoing the bill, less than two months before the November 2004 Election! Eric The(AtLeastThat'sHowIReadTheTeaLeaves)Hun[>]:)]
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Damn, I hope you are right, especially about the AW ban. Isn't it ironic that all the Israel bashers here on ar15.com suddenly find themselves aligned with the Demoflaps except, as I see, garandman, who has seen the light.[:D]
Link Posted: 7/13/2002 8:46:17 PM EST
Your point doesn't necessarily help us at all. I mean, politically, it would be pretty stupid for "American" Jews to support the Democratic party right now, being the opposition party almost totally out of power, when you have a 110% pro-Israeli Republican president (much more than Bill Clinton was). But, the facts still remain that the majority of Jews in America, whatever their party affiliation, are anti-gun. We'll just have a Schumer, Feinstein, Waxman, etc with a (R) after their name instead of a (D) like we do now with people like John McCain. We don't need and should not support a small minority of people who may well support the Republican party, but will still try to take your guns away.
Link Posted: 7/13/2002 10:11:17 PM EST
With all the Blacks taking up the Muslim faith in prison, it's no wonder the Black Caucus is changing it's tone. And the irony is the Jews have historically supported the Black cause and now, the Blacks are against them. I love it.
Link Posted: 7/14/2002 1:19:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mattja: With all the Blacks taking up the Muslim faith in prison, it's no wonder the Black Caucus is changing it's tone. And the irony is the Jews have historically supported the Black cause and now, the Blacks are against them. I love it.
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It seems that Blacks turn on anyone who doesn't agree with the wholeheartedly. (I am not a Racist, just an Observationalist)
Link Posted: 7/14/2002 6:02:33 AM EST
Post from Kroagnon -
We'll just have a Schumer, Feinstein, Waxman, etc with a (R) after their name instead of a (D) like we do now with people like John McCain.
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Don't disparage that (R) behind the rep's name! So long as power in Washington is divided along party lines, we need every swinging (R) we can get! Remember Sen. 'Jumping Jim' Jeffords' defection? It cost the GOP control of the Senate and effectively ended Pres. Bush's conservative, pro-gun judicial appointments! Eric The(RepublicanForNow)Hun[>]:)]
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