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Posted: 8/4/2009 10:31:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 10:33:04 AM EST by ANGST]
Score one for Clinton I guess .....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_nkorea_journalists_held


North Korea: 2 U.S. journalists pardoned
AP


Bill Clinton on a Mission to Free U.S. Journalists Play Video ABC News – Bill Clinton on a Mission to Free U.S. Journalists



SEOUL, South Korea – North Korean media say leader Kim Jong Il has pardoned two American journalists and ordered their release during the visit of former U.S. President Bill Clinton.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Former President Bill Clinton met Tuesday with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il on the first day of a surprise mission to Pyongyang to negotiate the release of two Americans, holding "exhaustive" talks on a wide range of topics, state-run media said.

Clinton "courteously" conveyed a verbal message from President Barack Obama, the official Korean Central News Agency said in a report from Pyongyang. Kim expressed his thanks, and engaged Clinton in a "wide-ranging exchange of views on matters of common concern," the report said.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs, however, denied Clinton went with a message from Obama. "That's not true," he told reporters.

Clinton was in communist North Korea on a mission to secure the freedom of Americans Euna Lee and Laura Ling, reporters for former Vice President Al Gore's Current TV media venture who were arrested along the Chinese-North Korean border in March and sentenced in June to 12 years of hard labor for illegal entry and engaging in "hostile acts."

His landmark visit, which was not announced in advance by North Korea or the U.S., comes at a time of heightened tensions between Washington and Pyongyang, foes during the Korean War of the 1950s, over the regime's nuclear program.

North Korea in recent months has conducted a nuclear test and test-fired an array of ballistic missiles in violation of U.N. Security Council resolutions, with Washington leading the push to punish Pyongyang for its defiance.

It's only the second visit to Pyongyang by a former U.S. leader. Jimmy Carter traveled to North Korea for talks with Kim's father, Kim Il Sung, in 1994 in a groundbreaking meeting during a time of similar tensions.

Clinton's meeting with Kim would be the notoriously reclusive North Korean leader's first with a prominent Western figure since Kim reportedly suffered a stroke a year ago, sparking questions about the future of the nation he controls with absolute authority.

Kim, said to have a taste for fine wines and fancy gourmet food, also is believed to suffer from chronic diabetes and heart disease. The man who once sported a noticeable pot belly has appeared gaunt and gray in recent months.

Though Clinton was in North Korea on a private basis, his visit was treated by North Korea as a high-profile visit, with senior officials — including Kim Kye Gwan, the vice foreign minister who serves as the country's chief nuclear negotiator — meeting him on the tarmac.

Footage from the APTN television news agency showed the arriving Clinton exchanging warm handshakes with the officials and accepting a bouquet of flowers from a schoolgirl.

Kim later hosted a banquet for Clinton at the state guesthouse, Radio Pyongyang and the Korean Central Broadcasting Station reported.

Photos in state-run media of the visit showed Kim, with a broad smile, standing next to a solemn-looking Clinton. The two also posed with Clinton's party in front of a mural, and another picture showed the men and others seated around a conference table.

Though Clinton does not hold office, his stature and good relations with Pyongyang could yield positive results, analysts said.

"This is a very potentially rewarding trip. Not only is it likely to resolve the case of the two American journalists detained in North Korea for many months, but it could be a very significant opening and breaking this downward cycle of tension and recrimination between the U.S. and North Korea," Mike Chinoy, author of "Meltdown: The Inside Story of the North Korean Nuclear Crisis," said in Beijing.

There was no word in state media on the status of Clinton's negotiations to secure the release of Ling, 32, and Lee, 36. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton last month urged North Korea to grant the women amnesty, saying they were remorseful and that their families were anguished.

Lee, a South Korean-born U.S. citizen, is married and has a 4-year-old daughter in Los Angeles; a native Californian, Ling is the married younger sister of TV journalist Lisa Ling.

Clinton's administration had rocky but relatively good relations with Pyongyang, and both he and Gore, his vice president, had been named as possible envoys to bring back Lee and Ling. Also mentioned was New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who in the 1990s traveled twice to North Korea to secure the freedom of detained Americans.

However, the decision to send the former president was kept quiet. A senior U.S. official told reporters traveling Tuesday with Hillary Rodham Clinton that the White House would not comment on the trip to Pyongyang until the mission was complete.

"While this solely private mission to secure the release of two Americans is on the ground, we will have no comment," Gibbs, the White House spokesman, said later in a statement from Washington. "We do not want to jeopardize the success of former President Clinton's mission."

In New York, the Committee to Protect Journalists said it was encouraged by reports about Clinton's trip.

"This is welcome news and we are pleased to see movement in this case," said Bob Dietz, the group's Asia program coordinator. "The fate of these two women should not be linked to broader issues on the Korean peninsula, and to see both sides make a move toward the release of these reporters will bring some relief to them, their families and friends."
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:32:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 10:33:33 AM EST by TheRocketmac]
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:33:48 AM EST


Hey I updated my post. Had to get in before the dupe . Probably did not make it too
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:35:27 AM EST
I wonder how much $$$$ changed hands?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:36:23 AM EST
How many bags of money did Billy Bob take with him? Did he do bong hits with Kimmie boy?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:36:40 AM EST
It is funny to see how differently the USA and the norks treat illegal alien invaders. They throw them in jail and we give ours unlimited welfare.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:37:49 AM EST
is he off to Iran now to free those other dumbasses who crossed into their border?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:39:44 AM EST
Rescued by Bill Clinton... I'd rather stay there.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:41:20 AM EST
The catch is this: bill gets to jerk off on them on the plane ride home.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:42:08 AM EST
I wonder how much diesel fuel that cost.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:43:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By Partisan:
The catch is this: bill gets to jerk off on them on the plane ride home.


I bet they are OK with that.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:44:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Partisan:
The catch is this: bill gets to jerk off on them on the plane ride home.


Comment of the year.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:45:15 AM EST
Good on Bill, but I'm sure there was some huge unseen price that was paid.

A word of caution to future "adventurers". We cannot be expected to rescue every idealist who wanders into hostile territory. Seriously, WTF were the latest bunch doing getting lost in Iran?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:45:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By wildearp:
How many bags of money did Billy Bob take with him? Did he do bong hits with Kimmie boy?


Rumor has it that Clinton agreed to do a 2v1 Straight Porn shoot with Kim, himself and Monica Lewinsky.


Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:47:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By DT120:
Good on Bill, but I'm sure there was some huge unseen price that was paid.

A word of caution to future "adventurers". We cannot be expected to rescue every idealist who wanders into hostile territory. Seriously, WTF were the latest bunch doing getting lost in Iran?


Working for the CIA of course

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:48:45 AM EST
I don't like the Clintons, but I'll give Bill respect where it's deserved. Thanks for bringin' 'em home!

Nobody deserves to be stuck in a Nork jail. Not even a libtard. Not even a zealous Nork.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:48:58 AM EST
The deal was made before he ever went over, the propaganda value was extracted from both sides and the lies have already started.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs, however, denied Clinton went with a message from Obama. "That's not true," he told reporters. that means in liberal speak that "Hell ya he had a message".
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:49:27 AM EST
Originally Posted By Partisan:
The catch is this: bill gets to jerk off on them on the plane ride home.


Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:50:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By ANGST:
Originally Posted By DT120:
Good on Bill, but I'm sure there was some huge unseen price that was paid.

A word of caution to future "adventurers". We cannot be expected to rescue every idealist who wanders into hostile territory. Seriously, WTF were the latest bunch doing getting lost in Iran?


Working for the CIA of course



Could have camoflaged themselves better than white liberal hippy types IMHO. P.S., I dont think they like us much over there .
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:54:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By DT120:
Originally Posted By ANGST:
Originally Posted By DT120:
Good on Bill, but I'm sure there was some huge unseen price that was paid.

A word of caution to future "adventurers". We cannot be expected to rescue every idealist who wanders into hostile territory. Seriously, WTF were the latest bunch doing getting lost in Iran?


Working for the CIA of course



Could have camoflaged themselves better than white liberal hippy types IMHO. P.S., I dont think they like us much over there .


In a way though you gotta think that'd be the perfect cover. Lots of those dorks go into various shitholes for "fun" . Like the ones that protest with the Palestinians (and get run over by bulldozers)
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:54:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 10:55:28 AM EST by PennsylvaniaExpat]
Originally Posted By DT120:
Originally Posted By ANGST:
Originally Posted By DT120:
Good on Bill, but I'm sure there was some huge unseen price that was paid.

A word of caution to future "adventurers". We cannot be expected to rescue every idealist who wanders into hostile territory. Seriously, WTF were the latest bunch doing getting lost in Iran?


Working for the CIA of course



Could have camoflaged themselves better than white liberal hippy types IMHO. P.S., I dont think they like us much over there .


Are you kidding? If we sent troops right now to throw out the Ayatollahs, they'd greet us as liberators!


Link Posted: 8/4/2009 10:55:25 AM EST
Willie: "Lisa Ling? I thought you said I was going over to get cunali..."
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 11:00:50 AM EST
I'm kinda wondering if Bill had to pull a Monica to get them released. But seriously, do we really need them back? They're obviously pollutants to the gene pool if they can "wonder in" to a country.. let alone a hostile dictatorship regime like North Korea. I mean seriously, if everyone knows a neighborhood is bad, only the stupid venture in.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 11:05:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 11:07:10 AM EST by DT120]
Originally Posted By AtomicPunk09:
I'm kinda wondering if Bill had to pull a Monica to get them released. But seriously, do we really need them back? They're obviously pollutants to the gene pool if they can "wonder in" to a country.. let alone a hostile dictatorship regime like North Korea. I mean seriously, if everyone knows a neighborhood is bad, only the stupid venture in.


The girls in question were alleged to have been kidnapped on the Chinese border and taken to North Korea. The problem I see is that these are dangerous locations to be playing this game.

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 11:06:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 11:06:50 AM EST by DT120]
double post
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 11:09:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 11:11:01 AM EST by PogueMahone]
Originally Posted By armoredsaint:
is he off to Iran now to free those other dumbasses who crossed into their border?

Shit, why not? I'm glad they're out...that's all I'll say.

ETA: Nah, fuck it...Guess everyone gets their Happy Ending now! "Hunny, you got the whitest teeth I ever come acrosst!"

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 11:11:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 11:12:36 AM EST by AzSteven]
Somebody posted on Free Republic "Now Bill gets to fly home on a plane with two young women." For some reason that cracked me up.

Did we pay some secret ransom, or was the little Korean troll just looking for the prestige of having a former US president on his soil, asking him for a favor? I imagine Lil'Kim's propoganda machine will be working overtime to crow about the humbling of America here.

ETA - regardless, I am glad teh two are freed. As I am sure are their families.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 11:15:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By rcatesbiana:
Originally Posted By Partisan:
The catch is this: bill gets to jerk off on them on the plane ride home.


I bet they are OK with that.


Yeah, considering the way they were most likely treated in the N. Korean prison that would be a sunny day on the beach compared to the hell they have been through.

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