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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:54:15 PM EDT
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sheriff-drone-approached-helicopter-pipeline-protest-43003947

A helicopter helping monitor a protest against the four-state pipeline Sunday morning was approached by a drone in a "threatening manner," the Morton County Sheriff's Office said in a statement. An officer in the helicopter told law enforcement on the ground that the pilot and passengers were "in fear of their lives" and that the unmanned aircraft was going after them. Less-than-lethal ammunition damaged the drone, which was then landed by its operator.
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Good shoot.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 8:58:12 PM EDT
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Is that the first air-to-air shoot down of a drone in the country?

Waiting for that video to surface!
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 8:59:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2016 9:00:01 PM EDT
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Has an RC plane/helicopter/etc ever been used before as an anti-aircraft weapon against law enforcement?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 9:00:56 PM EDT
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So the police shot an unarmed drone.....#dronelivesmatter.  Where do we riot?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 9:02:29 PM EDT
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What does a  "threatening manner" from a drone look like, exactly?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 9:04:08 PM EDT
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Getting too close to the helicopter.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 9:04:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2016 9:06:34 PM EDT
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Uh. How's the FAA feel about this? Are police allowed to shoot down aircraft?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 9:06:38 PM EDT
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Beanbags don't have all that much range. If the drone was that close, well...


Also depends on who was flying at who, though.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 10:35:29 PM EDT
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FAA rules state UAS pilots MUST yield the way to commercial a/c.

Also, it couldn't have been damaged too bad if they were able to land it.
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This....
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 10:39:57 PM EDT
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80 arrested yesterday and drone shot down today.  Good.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 10:42:32 PM EDT
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LTL has an accurate range of about 50 feet.  Depending on the helicopter it was damn close to the rotor arc.
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Lol
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 10:51:38 PM EDT
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Good point. Lucky cop, that would be fun shooting down a drone with a shotgun.
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Getting too close to the helicopter.
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Getting too close to the helicopter.



Did the drone get too close to the helicopter, or did the helicopter get too close to the drone ?
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Link Posted: 10/23/2016 10:53:13 PM EDT
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Getting too close to the helicopter.
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Getting too close to the helicopter.

I imagine that a drone would not play friendly with a tail rotor.

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Getting too close to the helicopter.



Did the drone get too close to the helicopter, or did the helicopter get too close to the drone ?
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Im guessing since the drone people didnt put their video online whining about police that they know they were in the wrong. Also dont think a pilot of a manned aircraft would get dangerously close to anything on purpose. You know because if they did hit it, it's their lives at risk.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:00:10 PM EDT
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Getting too close to the helicopter.



Did the drone get too close to the helicopter, or did the helicopter get too close to the drone ?
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I don't think it matters, I don't think the drone would ever have the 'right of way' in this instance. Drone cannot be that close to interfere with flight of the helicopter
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:04:04 PM EDT
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       If it was safe enough to hang around and try to shoot it, nobody was in fear for their lives. (ETA: RTFA )




Operator was dumb if he knew there was a full scale aircraft in the vicinity, though. But it's possible that he didn't if he couldn't hear it.


 
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:10:53 PM EDT
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Who brings less than lethal weapons in a helicopter?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:12:59 PM EDT
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Pfft... Those sperm rounds are good up to 50 yds. May need a lil' Kentucky windage of a couple of feet, but that is it.
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Shot from the ground.
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There was a video last year of a guy shooting one down with a shotgun.
ETA: Disregard, I missed the air to air part.
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Makes more sense then
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Getting too close to the helicopter.



Did the drone get too close to the helicopter, or did the helicopter get too close to the drone ?
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I would suspect the manned police helicopter would have "right of way" over a drone.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:27:39 PM EDT
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Makes more sense then
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Makes more sense then

If a guy shot a drone with a bean bag from the ground and the drone was too close to the helicopter how damn low was the helicopter?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:31:00 PM EDT
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Im guessing since the drone people didnt put their video online whining about police that they know they were in the wrong. Also dont think a pilot of a manned aircraft would get dangerously close to anything on purpose. You know because if they did hit it, it's their lives at risk.
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Getting too close to the helicopter.



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Im guessing since the drone people didnt put their video online whining about police that they know they were in the wrong. Also dont think a pilot of a manned aircraft would get dangerously close to anything on purpose. You know because if they did hit it, it's their lives at risk.


It wouldn't be the first time they have tried something assinine like that:



The drone was filming the scenery (and well away from people) when the park police decided they didn't like it just because and tried to deliberately crash it into the water with rotor wash.

I don't know what happened here but I am skeptical of the police story given shit like this, I would like to hear the other side.  On the other hand I can easily see some idiot enviro nut/professional rioter trying something like this.  The whole story just sounds wierd, shooting at the drone with beanbags, somehow hitting it and yet not damaging it enough to bring it down, rather it simply landing, right now I am more inclined to believe that the helicopter deliberately chased after the drone like in the video above and they tried shooting at it and the drone operator landed to save his craft and also to comply with regulations and the drone prior to that was never a threat and flying nowhere near the helicopter but the police decided it was one just because it was there.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:31:45 PM EDT
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FAA had rules them aircraft, no? So the cop just shot down an aircraft.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:32:55 PM EDT
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Makes more sense then

If a guy shot a drone with a bean bag from the ground and the drone was too close to the helicopter how damn low was the helicopter?



This, the whole story sounds fishy as hell.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:36:24 PM EDT
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Like my avatar
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 11:45:34 AM EDT
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This, the whole story sounds fishy as hell.
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Makes more sense then

If a guy shot a drone with a bean bag from the ground and the drone was too close to the helicopter how damn low was the helicopter?



This, the whole story sounds fishy as hell.

There are planes and helicopters all over that area.  Sometimes the helicopters land on or near the pipeline.  It sounds entirely possible to me.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 11:47:06 AM EDT
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I feel safe now.
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It wouldn't be the first time they have tried something assinine like that:



http://youtu.be/smxql2PXehI



The drone was filming the scenery (and well away from people) when the park police decided they didn't like it just because and tried to deliberately crash it into the water with rotor wash.



I don't know what happened here but I am skeptical of the police story given shit like this, I would like to hear the other side.  On the other hand I can easily see some idiot enviro nut/professional rioter trying something like this.  The whole story just sounds wierd, shooting at the drone with beanbags, somehow hitting it and yet not damaging it enough to bring it down, rather it simply landing, right now I am more inclined to believe that the helicopter deliberately chased after the drone like in the video above and they tried shooting at it and the drone operator landed to save his craft and also to comply with regulations and the drone prior to that was never a threat and flying nowhere near the helicopter but the police decided it was one just because it was there.
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Getting too close to the helicopter.






Did the drone get too close to the helicopter, or did the helicopter get too close to the drone ?

Who approached who ?






Im guessing since the drone people didnt put their video online whining about police that they know they were in the wrong. Also dont think a pilot of a manned aircraft would get dangerously close to anything on purpose. You know because if they did hit it, it's their lives at risk.





It wouldn't be the first time they have tried something assinine like that:



http://youtu.be/smxql2PXehI



The drone was filming the scenery (and well away from people) when the park police decided they didn't like it just because and tried to deliberately crash it into the water with rotor wash.



I don't know what happened here but I am skeptical of the police story given shit like this, I would like to hear the other side.  On the other hand I can easily see some idiot enviro nut/professional rioter trying something like this.  The whole story just sounds wierd, shooting at the drone with beanbags, somehow hitting it and yet not damaging it enough to bring it down, rather it simply landing, right now I am more inclined to believe that the helicopter deliberately chased after the drone like in the video above and they tried shooting at it and the drone operator landed to save his craft and also to comply with regulations and the drone prior to that was never a threat and flying nowhere near the helicopter but the police decided it was one just because it was there.

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We don't know what happened.  It's a cool story though, Bro.



 
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 11:52:19 AM EDT
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Ok, so the FAA now regards a small drone as an aircraft just like any other.

So now its ok to shoot down an aircraft that is getting too close instead of taking evasive maneuvers, moving away.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 11:56:53 AM EDT
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Those dumb fuck protestors have now moved their squatter village onto private land illegally from Corp land a d set up roadblocks on the highway.  There looking for a fight.  Livestock are going missing and have been found slaughtered.  They are harassing ranchers and hp officers and following them home, filming them from the end of their driveways.  Blocking driveways to intimidate.  Vandalizing both construction and farm equipment.  

They are lucky it has only been a drone that deadly force has been used on yet.  
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Those dumb fuck protestors have now moved their squatter village onto private land illegally from Corp land a d set up roadblocks on the highway.  There looking for a fight.  Livestock are going missing and have been found slaughtered.  They are harassing ranchers and hp officers and following them home, filming them from the end of their driveways.  Blocking driveways to intimidate.  Vandalizing both construction and farm equipment.  

They are lucky it has only been a drone that deadly force has been used on yet.  
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The irony of the protestors is that their Rez cars have dripped more oil into the soil at the protest site than the pipeline ever would.
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The irony of the protestors is that their Rez cars have dripped more oil into the soil at the protest site than the pipeline ever would.
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Those dumb fuck protestors have now moved their squatter village onto private land illegally from Corp land a d set up roadblocks on the highway.  There looking for a fight.  Livestock are going missing and have been found slaughtered.  They are harassing ranchers and hp officers and following them home, filming them from the end of their driveways.  Blocking driveways to intimidate.  Vandalizing both construction and farm equipment.  

They are lucky it has only been a drone that deadly force has been used on yet.  


The irony of the protestors is that their Rez cars have dripped more oil into the soil at the protest site than the pipeline ever would.





You are correct, sir..
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:22:18 PM EDT
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How close could a drone really get to a helicopter before the rotor wash sends it tumbling to the ground?  Or would the drone get sucked into the vortices and get into run through the rotor?
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There is a minimum safe distance for operation. Not sure what special rules are in place for the area (SFR) or if a NOTAM is in place. It would easily fit the criteria for a temporary flight restriction.

Consider that helicopters are moving and not sitting still. If this clown was going around chasing the helicopter, the rotor wash may never hit it (think of hitting the helicopter head on or dropping down from above being sucked into the rotors).

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Flight path.

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Yes, it is lawful for a police officer to destroy property, even an unmanned aircraft, to protect his partners.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:37:25 PM EDT
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You should see all the bitchers on facebook about this.

Lots of very uneducated people saying a drone cant hurt a helicopter etc.

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The most likely way for this to have played out would be this. First the helicopter pilot, or officers on the ground see the drone in proximity to the chopper, the chopper pulls back out of the area, and then the officers on the ground try to remove the threat so the chopper can come back. If it were really close to the chopper at that moment nobody would be shooting ANYTHING.
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The irony of the protestors is that their Rez cars have dripped more oil into the soil at the protest site than the pipeline ever would.
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Those dumb fuck protestors have now moved their squatter village onto private land illegally from Corp land a d set up roadblocks on the highway.  There looking for a fight.  Livestock are going missing and have been found slaughtered.  They are harassing ranchers and hp officers and following them home, filming them from the end of their driveways.  Blocking driveways to intimidate.  Vandalizing both construction and farm equipment.  

They are lucky it has only been a drone that deadly force has been used on yet.  


The irony of the protestors is that their Rez cars have dripped more oil into the soil at the protest site than the pipeline ever would.


WAY bigger issues to tackle but they put all this effort into this.

Meanwhile meth and gang shit runs rampant.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:45:20 PM EDT
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I don't doubt the drone pilot was being less than observant of rules and regs, but I really really doubt they meant any physical harm or were trying to kamikazi.





If you have spent much time around them (hobby drones), you would know that they can close 50 feet so fast that by the time your lizard brain could go "oh fuck" you would already have your face in a meat grinder.





If they were able to hit it with LTL while airborn, it wasn't moving around much, but everything is about feels and perception anymore.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:56:34 PM EDT
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Good shoot. Drone was a danger to the helo. Plus fuck these dirty leftist protestors.
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