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Posted: 2/16/2012 3:52:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 3:54:35 PM EDT
Did I miss something?
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 3:57:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DPeacher:
Did I miss something?

Just the other 50 threads about the long gun registry being repealed in Canada.........
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 3:59:51 PM EDT
I must have missed it as well.

Good for them.





Bill
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:08:46 PM EDT
As I understand it AR-15s will still be restricted in Canada.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:11:33 PM EDT
Does this mean TT will be back?
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:17:43 PM EDT
sadly the AR15 is still registered, this just got rid of the registrations on shotguns/all other rifles (providing they are not to short)

the AR15 falls into the same class as handguns

this is not official yet, still has to pass senate... but that is just a formality really at this point
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:28:42 PM EDT
so my drinking milk out of a ziplock this afternoon was for naught.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:31:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2012 4:32:10 PM EDT by F22_RaptoR]
Nope, fail. Sorry.

AR15's are restricted by name, however long guns (including the Swiss Arms rifles - AKA SIg550, robarms XCR, Bushmaster ACR any bolt guns shotguns with the legal barrel length) won't be.



Keep in mind, although it passed the house (as it was expected to) it still has to make its way through the Senate (which is also a guaranteed success) and then get Royal Ascent.

If we're luck it'll be March sometime before it's actually got Royal Ascent and is signed into law.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:34:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By zum97:
sadly the AR15 is still registered, this just got rid of the registrations on shotguns/all other rifles (providing they are not to short)


What's the minimum barrel length in canada? Same as us?

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Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:34:53 PM EDT
So let me get this straight. No ar's because they are evil "ar-15's" but scar and all others are just long guns? (as all rifles are anyway)
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:52:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By muddawggin:
So let me get this straight. No ar's because they are evil "ar-15's" but scar and all others are just long guns? (as all rifles are anyway)


Where have you been......
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 5:38:48 PM EDT
We should all boil a gun to celebrate.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 5:45:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By muddawggin:
So let me get this straight. No ar's because they are evil "ar-15's" but scar and all others are just long guns? (as all rifles are anyway)


"When In Rome,"





Bill
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 5:48:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By F22_RaptoR:
Nope, fail. Sorry.

AR15's are restricted by name, however long guns (including the Swiss Arms rifles - AKA SIg550, robarms XCR, Bushmaster ACR any bolt guns shotguns with the legal barrel length) won't be.



Keep in mind, although it passed the house (as it was expected to) it still has to make its way through the Senate (which is also a guaranteed success) and then get Royal Ascent.

If we're luck it'll be March sometime before it's actually got Royal Ascent and is signed into law.


What does this mean exactly?
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 5:49:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle:
Does this mean TT will be back?


It's only a matter of time.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 5:52:30 PM EDT
There will be blood on the streets snowmachine trails
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 6:03:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ruger556boy:
Originally Posted By muddawggin:
So let me get this straight. No ar's because they are evil "ar-15's" but scar and all others are just long guns? (as all rifles are anyway)


Where have you been......


Sorry Long time no sleep.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 6:14:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2012 6:15:56 PM EDT by F22_RaptoR]
Originally Posted By DanNH:
Originally Posted By zum97:
sadly the AR15 is still registered, this just got rid of the registrations on shotguns/all other rifles (providing they are not to short)


What's the minimum barrel length in canada? Same as us?

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It's 18.5" overall length for semi-automatic centrefire rifles and shotguns. Overall length 26 inches.

For pump action, bolt, lever (anything manual) and for any rimfire, barrel length is not regulated, only overall length which must be over 26 inches. If the length is under 26" or a semi-auto is shorter than 18.5" barrel length then it's classified as a restricted class firearm, basically you can only take it to shooting ranges and gun shops, (same as handguns) need special paperwork to transport it etc... big pain in the ass.


Originally Posted By confusiussaid:
Originally Posted By F22_RaptoR:
Nope, fail. Sorry.

AR15's are restricted by name, however long guns (including the Swiss Arms rifles - AKA SIg550, robarms XCR, Bushmaster ACR any bolt guns shotguns with the legal barrel length) won't be.



Keep in mind, although it passed the house (as it was expected to) it still has to make its way through the Senate (which is also a guaranteed success) and then get Royal Ascent.

If we're luck it'll be March sometime before it's actually got Royal Ascent and is signed into law.


What does this mean exactly?


Think of it like the president signing a bill into law after it's gone through both your houses.

In theory, in Canada the "highest power" is the Governor General, whom is essentially the direct voice of the Queen in Canada. The very last step for ANY bill is for the Gov. Gen. to sign the bill which is called Royal Ascent (AKA the queen's ambassador giving it the OK).


Now in practice the Governor General is ONLY a figurehead, and only kept around for the sake of history. They will sign anything that gets onto his or her desk into law, again, it's just a historical thing which kind of ties us back to being a British colony and being part of the commonwealth.

In the case that the Governor General DID for some reason veto something, he/she would VERY quickly be replaced by the Prime Minister, and in doing so risk their cushy desk job and (more than likely) multi-million dollar salary.... SO it would never happen. Most often it takes a day or a matter of hours for the Gov. Gen. to go through a bill and sign it into law.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 6:18:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By F22_RaptoR:
Originally Posted By DanNH:
Originally Posted By zum97:
sadly the AR15 is still registered, this just got rid of the registrations on shotguns/all other rifles (providing they are not to short)


What's the minimum barrel length in canada? Same as us?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


It's 18.5" overall length for semi-automatic centrefire rifles and shotguns. Overall length 26 inches.

For pump action, bolt, lever (anything manual) and for any rimfire, barrel length is not regulated, only overall length which must be over 26 inches. If the length is under 26" or a semi-auto is shorter than 18.5" barrel length then it's classified as a restricted class firearm, basically you can only take it to shooting ranges and gun shops, (same as handguns) need special paperwork to transport it etc... big pain in the ass.


Originally Posted By confusiussaid:
Originally Posted By F22_RaptoR:
Nope, fail. Sorry.

AR15's are restricted by name, however long guns (including the Swiss Arms rifles - AKA SIg550, robarms XCR, Bushmaster ACR any bolt guns shotguns with the legal barrel length) won't be.



Keep in mind, although it passed the house (as it was expected to) it still has to make its way through the Senate (which is also a guaranteed success) and then get Royal Ascent.

If we're luck it'll be March sometime before it's actually got Royal Ascent and is signed into law.


What does this mean exactly?


Think of it like the president signing a bill into law after it's gone through both your houses.

In theory, in Canada the "highest power" is the Governor General, whom is essentially the direct voice of the Queen in Canada. The very last step for ANY bill is for the Gov. Gen. to sign the bill which is called Royal Ascent (AKA the queen's ambassador giving it the OK).


Now in practice the Governor General is ONLY a figurehead, and only kept around for the sake of history. They will sign anything that gets onto his or her desk into law, again, it's just a historical thing which kind of ties us back to being a British colony and being part of the commonwealth.

In the case that the Governor General DID for some reason veto something, he/she would VERY quickly be replaced by the Prime Minister, and in doing so risk their cushy desk job and (more than likely) multi-million dollar salary.... SO it would never happen. Most often it takes a day or a matter of hours for the Gov. Gen. to go through a bill and sign it into law.


I figured as much, but wanted to have that clarified for the record by an actual Canadian. Hopefully you guys can keep the ball rolling and get more firearms off registration. Both Canada and America are better off when each respective country has a legislative/judicial victory like this.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 6:26:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By confusiussaid:

*SNIP*

I figured as much, but wanted to have that clarified for the record by an actual Canadian. Hopefully you guys can keep the ball rolling and get more firearms off registration. Both Canada and America are better off when each respective country has a legislative/judicial victory like this.




Thanks, and we are constantly wishing you guys good luck with your election!

It's realistically a small victory, but it's the first time since World War II since ANY gun laws were relaxed in Canada. There are still a laundry list of potential targets to go after, but it's hard to say if any will ever come to fruition. One of the biggest is to try and de-restrict the AR15 so it'll only be restricted with barrel length, aka 20" ones you can go and hunt with. Also regular-capacity magazine limits, suppressors, and there are dozens of other rifles on the "prohibited" and "restricted" lists for basically no reason...


Some of those are easier targets to go after, so maybe after the next election and things have calmed down with the long gun registry, we can try and get rid of something else.
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