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Posted: 4/12/2013 5:39:02 AM EDT
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Nice job. But what are "landing gears"?
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Posted: 4/12/2013 5:44:53 AM EDT
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Great job. Damn good pilot. With skills like that, who the fuck needs landing gear?
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Posted: 4/12/2013 6:32:19 AM EDT
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Great job. Damn good pilot. With skills like that, who the fuck needs landing gear? 
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Posted: 4/12/2013 6:42:40 AM EDT
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Not to take anything away from the pilot, but people make too big of a deal out of gear up landings.
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Posted: 4/12/2013 6:52:19 AM EDT
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Not to take anything away from the pilot, but people make too big of a deal out of gear up landings. Yep, airplanes are designed for it (as best as possible) and pilots are trained to deal with it if they have any kind of retractable LG license. On a pucker factor where "landing in the Hudson" is an 11, it's probably only 1 or 2. |
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Posted: 4/12/2013 10:03:42 AM EDT
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Complete non-event, it just makes a bit more noise than usual.
No such think as "RG license"...Only an endorsement for complex aircraft that's good on everything with foldy gear. |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 10:51:52 AM EDT
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Embraers have a belly skid just for gear up landings to minimize damage.
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Posted: 4/13/2013 7:16:26 PM EDT
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Damn shame it happened to a Comanche. There's not enough of them around as it is. Who cares if it happened to an Arrow.
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Posted: 4/13/2013 8:03:38 PM EDT
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Not to take anything away from the pilot, but people make too big of a deal out of gear up landings. Yep, airplanes are designed for it (as best as possible) and pilots are trained to deal with it if they have any kind of retractable LG license. On a pucker factor where "landing in the Hudson" is an 11, it's probably only 1 or 2. I would have given him a 7 or 8 if he'd killed the engine and bumped the starter until the prop was dead horizontal so he didnt have to pay for a complete engine tear down. 
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Posted: 4/14/2013 9:01:29 PM EDT
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Not to take anything away from the pilot, but people make too big of a deal out of gear up landings. Yep, airplanes are designed for it (as best as possible) and pilots are trained to deal with it if they have any kind of retractable LG license. On a pucker factor where "landing in the Hudson" is an 11, it's probably only 1 or 2. Makes it real hard to taxi - doesn't it? |
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Posted: 4/18/2013 5:22:00 AM EDT
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My friend did a gear up landing into MKC...he had to circle to burn off fuel, so all the news trucks were there to cover the "plane crash." Problem was that his wife didn't know he owned that airplane  so she was somewhat shocked when all the other news trucks showed up at her house shoving microphones in her face and asking "Your husband is about to die in an airplane crash. How does that make you feel?"
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Posted: 4/18/2013 7:11:17 AM EDT
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My friend did a gear up landing into MKC...he had to circle to burn off fuel, so all the news trucks were there to cover the "plane crash." Problem was that his wife didn't know he owned that airplane so she was somewhat shocked when all the other news trucks showed up at her house shoving microphones in her face and asking "Your husband is about to die in an airplane crash. How does that make you feel?"Damn, I am an amateur. I may occasionally forget to mention a new firearm to the wife, but he forgets to mention a whole airplane. Truly I am not worthy. |
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Posted: 4/18/2013 8:11:17 AM EDT
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Damn shame it happened to a Comanche. There's not enough of them around as it is. Who cares if it happened to an Arrow. I'd be surprised if it total'ed it though. Comanches, in both the single and twin engine variety, are tough birds. |
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Posted: 4/19/2013 5:24:29 PM EDT
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"Tell my wife I love her"...LOL.
How about... "Tell my wife I'll be late for dinner" |
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:12:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: My friend did a gear up landing into MKC...he had to circle to burn off fuel, so all the news trucks were there to cover the "plane crash." Problem was that his wife didn't know he owned that airplane so she was somewhat shocked when all the other news trucks showed up at her house shoving microphones in her face and asking "Your husband is about to die in an airplane crash. How does that make you feel?"I bet that was an expensive flight in more ways than one. |
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Posted: 4/20/2013 9:28:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not to take anything away from the pilot, but people make too big of a deal out of gear up landings. Yep, airplanes are designed for it (as best as possible) and pilots are trained to deal with it if they have any kind of retractable LG license. On a pucker factor where "landing in the Hudson" is an 11, it's probably only 1 or 2. Makes it real hard to taxi - doesn't it? Needs full take-off power to taxi. |
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Posted: 4/20/2013 10:03:14 AM EDT
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prop bump is a no go , any good cfi will advise not to do this .as in kill yourself trying to save a sudden stoppage ,and is imposable on most aircraft with 3 blade props. fly the airplane . to add he might have wanted a lot of help on paying for a rebuild from his insurance co .it happens alot
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Posted: 4/20/2013 3:43:22 PM EDT
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prop bump is a no go , any good cfi will advise not to do this .as in kill yourself trying to save a sudden stoppage ,and is imposable on most aircraft with 3 blade props. fly the airplane . to add he might have wanted a lot of help on paying for a rebuild from his insurance co .it happens alot This. Between key on and key off the airplane belongs to the insurance company. Your only job is to walk away. |
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Posted: 4/20/2013 4:24:09 PM EDT
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I had a guy that would buy an airplane and have me go bring it back. Stuff like a smith mini plane or a scale P-51. He would never tell his wife but would always want me to call and let him know how it was going. This was before cell phones so it would be a collect call and his wife would always pick up the phone.
" Why are you calling collect? He bought another airplane didn't he?" I just need to talk to your hubby.......conversation would go downhill from there.
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Posted: 4/21/2013 5:54:36 PM EDT
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Damn shame it happened to a Comanche. There's not enough of them around as it is. Who cares if it happened to an Arrow. I'd be surprised if it total'ed it though. Comanches, in both the single and twin engine variety, are tough birds. You guys hit the nail on the head! About 25 years ago, I was the safety officer for a military aero club. It wasn't any fun to tell a fellow pilot he was grounded because he landed a nice old Commanche gear-up and totalled it out. At least that's what the insurance company said. Imagine my shock some 15 years later to find that same airplane for sale in Amarillo! FLYABLE, with a fresh annual, etc... |
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Posted: 4/22/2013 2:14:14 AM EDT
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prop bump is a no go , any good cfi will advise not to do this .as in kill yourself trying to save a sudden stoppage ,and is imposable on most aircraft with 3 blade props. fly the airplane . to add he might have wanted a lot of help on paying for a rebuild from his insurance co .it happens alot So plane owners intentionally land with the gear retracted "a lot" so insurance will help pay for a rebuild? |
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Posted: 4/23/2013 6:19:43 PM EDT
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prop bump is a no go , any good cfi will advise not to do this .as in kill yourself trying to save a sudden stoppage ,and is imposable on most aircraft with 3 blade props. fly the airplane . to add he might have wanted a lot of help on paying for a rebuild from his insurance co .it happens alot So plane owners intentionally land with the gear retracted "a lot" so insurance will help pay for a rebuild? Not if they want to keep their insurance. My brother had an engine fail in my mooney years ago and I still have to spend hours on the phone every single time I get a policy. |
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Posted: 4/24/2013 3:02:21 PM EDT
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Not to take anything away from the pilot, but people make too big of a deal out of gear up landings. Yep, airplanes are designed for it (as best as possible) and pilots are trained to deal with it if they have any kind of retractable LG license. On a pucker factor where "landing in the Hudson" is an 11, it's probably only 1 or 2. I would have given him a 7 or 8 if he'd killed the engine and bumped the starter until the prop was dead horizontal so he didnt have to pay for a complete engine tear down. The engine may have been killed with the prop windmilling. |
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