No guilty verdicts reached in Bunkerville ranch standoff

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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:07:44 PM EDT

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LAS VEGAS (AP) - A federal jury in Las Vegas has refused to convict four accused gunmen in a 2014 standoff with federal authorities near the Nevada ranch of anti-government figure Cliven Bundy.

In a verdict that stunned Bundy supporters, the jury on Tuesday acquitted Ricky Lovelien and Steven Stewart of all 10 charges against them.

Defendants Scott Drexler and Eric Parker were found not guilty of most of the charges against them.

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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:13:35 PM EDT

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LAS VEGAS (AP) - A federal jury in Las Vegas has refused to convict four accused gunmen in a 2014 standoff with federal authorities near the Nevada ranch of anti-government figure Cliven Bundy.

In a verdict that stunned Bundy supporters, the jury on Tuesday acquitted Ricky Lovelien and Steven Stewart of all 10 charges against them.

Defendants Scott Drexler and Eric Parker were found not guilty of most of the charges against them.

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Wow didn't see that coming.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:15:02 PM EDT

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I'm ok with that.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:15:21 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:17:41 PM EDT

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Wow. Very unexpected.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:20:19 PM EDT

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LOL at all g-men saying these guys were all going to do 20 years.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:21:20 PM EDT

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Yep. did I make it before the statists?

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:21:56 PM EDT

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so good verdict then

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:22:54 PM EDT

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Huh, that is unexpected for sure.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:23:48 PM EDT

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Statists not going to be happy.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:24:45 PM EDT

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DIdnt one guy plead guilty and get 65 years?

Bet he's pissed

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:27:46 PM EDT

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Citizen jury, refusing to be cleansed by socialism and heavy handed govt think.

Refreshing.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:29:18 PM EDT

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Jury nullified like a mutha?

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:31:56 PM EDT

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A good number of Americans are fed up with the government. Their is a lot more disgust and desire for change in government than is apparent.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:32:52 PM EDT

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I'm strangely comfortable with it.

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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:34:57 PM EDT

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This was the second trial lets see how many times it takes to get the charges to stick.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:35:28 PM EDT

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Ok by me. No one got hurt no harm no foul.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:37:51 PM EDT

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But those citizens were carrying guns bro. Poor government workers still can't sleep after being put through such horrors.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:39:01 PM EDT

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"I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6"?

Moral of the story: a fair trial in front of a jury of your peers will always be preferred to a simple ruling by an appointed judge.
Once again we see the wisdom inherent in our founders.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:39:42 PM EDT

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Good...the government should not be above the law...

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:43:22 PM EDT

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Imagine that and Las Vegas is a den of democRATS.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:46:21 PM EDT

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Was the bridge sniper AK guy one of them?

jd1

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:52:12 PM EDT

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I don't think so (but could be wrong).
I seem to remember him having a separate trial and getting it raw and without lube.

edit: answered below.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:52:27 PM EDT

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If the jury actually returned a verdict of not guilty, and this was not simply a hung jury, then double-jeopardy would come in to play. A verdict of not guilty by a jury is pretty much untouchable. You only see a motion to set aside a judgment when a jury or judge finds a defendant guilty.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:02:21 PM EDT

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Parker.

He is mentioned in the article...

"Defendants Scott Drexler and Eric Parker were found not guilty of most of the charges against them."

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:04:08 PM EDT

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No one should be above the law...

What laws did (your words), "the Government" break in this instance...?

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:04:38 PM EDT

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I'm surprised Parker didn't get hammered. Good for him.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:06:06 PM EDT

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No one should be above the law...

What laws did (your words), "the Government" break in this instance...?

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Good...the government should not be above the law...

No one should be above the law...

What laws did (your words), "the Government" break in this instance...?

I'll give you one..just because..pointing firearms at innocents...cops did it first....

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:06:39 PM EDT

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Good!

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:06:51 PM EDT

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Good twice!

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:08:40 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:11:41 PM EDT

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I'll give you one..just because..pointing firearms at innocents...cops did it first....

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What were "innocents" doing in the middle of the barren desert? They did not live there. No one does.

The cops were there under a court order.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:12:11 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:13:03 PM EDT

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~~Statists~~ The King's Men are not going to be happy.

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Fixed it for you.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:14:00 PM EDT

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What were "innocents" doing in the middle of the barren desert? They did not live there. No one does.

The cops were there under a court order.

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Sorry if free people being able to move about the country trigger you bro.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:15:11 PM EDT

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What were "innocents" doing in the middle of the barren desert? They did not live there. No one does.

The cops were there under a court order.

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I'll give you one..just because..pointing firearms at innocents...cops did it first....

What were "innocents" doing in the middle of the barren desert? They did not live there. No one does.

The cops were there under a court order.

Papers please.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:16:58 PM EDT

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Am I in before the fed adds new charges?

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:18:15 PM EDT

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Good

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:18:47 PM EDT

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Lol.

People being free is cool.

Kids are not free people. Kids have to go where their parents take them... They have no choice.

What were the folks doing in the middle of the barren desert?

What were the folks pointing guns at cops in the middle of the barren desert for?

The cops were there under a court order. They were like kids. The cops were forced there by a court-order.

What brought folks out to the barren desert? I know why cops had guns there... The court-order.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:21:46 PM EDT

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Lol.

People being free is cool.

Kids are not free people. Kids have to go where their parents take them... They have no choice.

What were the folks doing in the middle of the barren desert?

What were the folks pointing guns at cops in the middle of the barren desert for?

The cops were there under a court order. They were like kids. The cops were forced there by a court-order.

What brought folks out to the barren desert? I know why cops had guns there... The court-order.

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Poor thing.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:22:06 PM EDT

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I appreciate that some of the Bundy supporters are here...

You can answer me a question about the stand off...

If we are to believe the Bundy narrative, the Feds were pointing guns at folks. Ready-to-kill...

If that were true... And the Feds were *first* to point guns at folks... And the Feds were eager and ready to kill...

Then why did Bundy folks take their children to the stand-off with the Feds?

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:22:35 PM EDT

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This is Eric Parker, I remember thinking "he's going to catch a case for that" when I saw it. Article says "most charges" so what did they get him on?

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:24:04 PM EDT

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Poor thing.

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Are you a Bundy supporter?

Why did (if the Feds were the first to point guns) Bundy supporters bring kids to the armed confrontation/stand-off?

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:27:11 PM EDT

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LOL at all the statists from all the other threads.

Oh look it's our resident Bundy hating crazy person spewing BS all over anything Bundy related.

Basically the feds have been humiliated twice now. I hope they have anxiety from the court case to go along with their PTSD from having armed Americans around them. I hope they never sleep again.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:28:54 PM EDT

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This.

Fuck the government.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:29:18 PM EDT

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This is Eric Parker, I remember thinking "he's going to catch a case for that" when I saw it. Article says "most charges" so what did they get him on?

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My first thought was that he was a Fed.

No way would anyone be that brazen and that dumb.

He did a few things right/smart. He never admitted to pointing directly at Feds. He said his plan all along was to shoot "warning shots."

He also never left the highway, and entered the land that was "trespassing." He stayed on the highway, so he never *technically* violated the original "trespass" order.

He also co-operated right off the bat, and he was one of the first to identify that folks down in the gully (technically trespassing) were using women and children as human shields.

At first I thought he was a Fed. But he played his hand right. He may actually walk.

What statements he has made under-oath is going to get the Bundys gutted when their turn in front of a Judge comes-up...

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:33:25 PM EDT

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SNIP by me.

What statements he has made under-oath is going to get the Bundys gutted when their turn in front of a Judge comes-up...

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Oh really Mr knowledgeable? I'm sure you will back this up with proof. You must have some amazing insight into everything Bundy from how wrong you been in every single thread.

But tell us again about your hate for the BLM and then please mention children 600 more times.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:34:39 PM EDT

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Are you a Bundy supporter?

Why did (if the Feds were the first to point guns) Bundy supporters bring kids to the armed confrontation/stand-off?

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lol