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Posted: 9/14/2005 6:35:00 PM EDT
Here's a list of guns I want. Tell me what you think I'm missing or should remove.

Rifles:

Mosin-Nagant
Swiss K-31
Bushmaster M4gery
VEPR
Saiga 7.62x39mm converted to AK-104
Kel-Tec SU-16
Marlin Guide Gun .45-70
"Sharps" .45-110
1919 semi-auto (potentially crank operated)
Steyr-Mannlicher M1895 8x56R
Romak-3
.308 and .50 Beowulf uppers for the Bushy

Shotguns:

Mossberg 500 with pistol grip and top-folding stock
Mag-7 (SBR)
Spas-12

Handguns:

Mauser c96
Walther P-38
Jericho 941
CZ-75B
CZ--01
CZ-52
Nagant revolver
Medusa Model 47
Colt Python
Mateba Unica 6
MAC-10
Colt Delta Elite
1911A1 (Colt, Springfield, Kimber, or all of the above)
Walther P-22 (with suppressor)


ATF regulated for various asinine reasons or just plain wet dreams:

USAS12
MAC-10 full-auto
M16A1 full-auto with M203 40mm grenade launcher
Barrett M82A1
MG-42 (potentially converted to .308)
China Lake Armaments 40mm pump-action grenade launcher
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:39:12 PM EDT
They always forget the CMP Garand...
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:40:44 PM EDT
Unless CMP means "U.S. G.I.", forget it. I want the real deal.

And I can't believe that wasn't on the list.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:45:17 PM EDT
Given the recent love-fest in N.O. and subsequent LEO actions, I can't see spending money on anything you can't carry with you when you have to go. If it can't pierce a looter or vest, it will be something you just have to wavy bye-bye to as you hit the road. It's a great list if you have a boating accident in your future, though.
matthew
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:45:56 PM EDT
I would take the SPAS 12 off the list. And go with a wilson combat boarder patrol 870.
Trust me you don't want a spas 12
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:46:11 PM EDT
You seem to be missing the 120 mm smoothbore. A common mistake, I'm sure.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:46:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
I would take the SPAS 12 off the list. And go with a wilson combat boarder patrol 870.
Trust me you don't want a spas 12



And why not? Sure they're over-priced. I just want one for the looks the morons will give me at the gun range.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:49:31 PM EDT
Winston Wolf was sellin' a Spas 12 in the EE......

And the Guide Gun is fun. Expensive to shoot, but fun....
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:52:34 PM EDT
if you need an arsenal-new 1919 kit, IM me, i may very well be unassing one soon
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:52:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
I would take the SPAS 12 off the list. And go with a wilson combat boarder patrol 870.
Trust me you don't want a spas 12



And why not? Sure they're over-priced. I just want one for the looks the morons will give me at the gun range.



For that reason OK But the most complicated shotgun ever made.I would still like to have mine but sold it for a nice price, and really not worth what you will have to pay for one.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:55:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 6:56:25 PM EDT by motown_steve]
Ditch the .308 upper for your AR-15 since it's not possible.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:56:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TexRdnec:
if you need an arsenal-new 1919 kit, IM me, i may very well be unassing one soon



I doubt I'd have the money even if I still had cash saved up from summer, but IM about a potential price if you do decide to sell it.

It's a kit, so it's missing a receiver, right?


Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:
Winston Wolf was sellin' a Spas 12 in the EE......

And the Guide Gun is fun. Expensive to shoot, but fun....



We've already got a Guide Gun, I just want one all my own.

After the first two or three sessions with it, my dad stuck it in the safe and I've been the one buying and using all the .45-70 Government that comes into the house.

Too bad for him about that old dislocated shoulder making big-bore rifles too uncomfortable to shoot. Maybe he can join Sarge in the .22 and doll section.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:59:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Unless CMP means "U.S. G.I.", forget it. I want the real deal.

And I can't believe that wasn't on the list.



uh...CMP M1 garands are government surplus GI M1 garands.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:59:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 7:02:21 PM EDT by motown_steve]
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.


ETA - Oh yeah, and the Bushmaster M4gery. I like Bushies too! Didn't see that one on the first pass.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:00:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 7:05:17 PM EDT by Enigma102083]

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
I would take the SPAS 12 off the list. And go with a wilson combat boarder patrol 870.
Trust me you don't want a spas 12



And why not? Sure they're over-priced. I just want one for the looks the morons will give me at the gun range.



they're way over priced, parts are impossible to find, they're bulky, heavy and cumbersom. All they have going for them is they look cool. That's it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:01:53 PM EDT
oh and the China Lake Armaments 40mm pump-action grenade launcher are rare, far too expensive, and jam-o-matics.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:02:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.



Subtle as always.

And I agree.


Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:06:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By giacutter:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.



Subtle as always.

And I agree.




what about the MG3?
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:07:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.


ETA - Oh yeah, and the Bushmaster M4gery. I like Bushies too! Didn't see that one on the first pass.



8mm Mauser is expensive. An MG3 is easier to feed but you can't get those.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:09:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.


ETA - Oh yeah, and the Bushmaster M4gery. I like Bushies too! Didn't see that one on the first pass.



8mm Mauser is expensive. An MG3 is easier to feed but you can't get those.



8mm mauser is???? Geez, last year they couldn't *give* mil-surp 8mm away, I picked up 2789 rounds for 110 bucks.....
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:11:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.


ETA - Oh yeah, and the Bushmaster M4gery. I like Bushies too! Didn't see that one on the first pass.



8mm Mauser is expensive. An MG3 is easier to feed but you can't get those.



Doesn't matter. If you can afford the gun then you should be able to afford the ammo. The MG-42 is an outstanding historical artifact. Converting one to .308 would be likie using the Holy Grail as a fish bowl.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:13:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.


ETA - Oh yeah, and the Bushmaster M4gery. I like Bushies too! Didn't see that one on the first pass.



8mm Mauser is expensive. An MG3 is easier to feed but you can't get those.



Doesn't matter. If you can afford the gun then you should be able to afford the ammo. The MG-42 is an outstanding historical artifact. Converting one to .308 would be likie using the Holy Grail as a fish bowl.


I agree with you, but what if he wants an MG3 clone or something?
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:16:13 PM EDT

You need a FAL too. Hell, everyone should have at least one FAL if not more than one. Maybe some sort of G-3 clone too.

Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:20:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XeroSygnal:
You need a FAL too. Hell, everyone should have at least one FAL if not more than one. Maybe some sort of G-3 clone too.



+1 to that.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:24:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:34:11 PM EDT
CMP is not the government. They do have genuine USGI Garands though.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:38:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Unless CMP means "U.S. G.I.", forget it. I want the real deal.

And I can't believe that wasn't on the list.



www.odcmp.com

Scroll to "CMP Sales" (middle)

Click on "Rifle Sales"

"M1 Garand"

Then select your grade - they've got nice USGI ones.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 7:40:34 PM EDT
seems good but any arfcommer worth their weight should have (or want) one of those switch barrel AR's from LMT called the MRP. dsarms sells em and they look really slick.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:27:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The VEPR is about the only thing on your list that I like.

Your suggestion of converting an MG-42 to .308 should be punishable by death.


ETA - Oh yeah, and the Bushmaster M4gery. I like Bushies too! Didn't see that one on the first pass.



8mm Mauser is expensive. An MG3 is easier to feed but you can't get those.



Doesn't matter. If you can afford the gun then you should be able to afford the ammo. The MG-42 is an outstanding historical artifact. Converting one to .308 would be likie using the Holy Grail as a fish bowl.



It's not like I can't swap the parts out. And I DID say it was a possibility, not something I was going to do. I'd prefer to keep it as original as possible.

As for the Holy Grail...

I was wondering why that goldfish got a little pope hat and stigmata.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:40:49 PM EDT
Another ditch the SPAS i had on it was a POS
I also a had a Medusa it was kinda cool and worked great
Shot a Metaba worked OK
Delta Elite get a high SN one and you should be OK
BTW a Barrett 82 is not NFA......yet
Don't know anout the pump Gernade launcher thingee
rest of your list looks good to me
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 3:58:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
Another ditch the SPAS i had on it was a POS
I also a had a Medusa it was kinda cool and worked great
Shot a Metaba worked OK
Delta Elite get a high SN one and you should be OK
BTW a Barrett 82 is not NFA......yet
Don't know anout the pump Gernade launcher thingee
rest of your list looks good to me



I didn't say the Barrett 82 was NFA. It was included in the list of "ATF Regulated OR Just Plain Pipe Dreams", i.e., "I could never in my life afford even half of this stuff".
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:01:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Ditch the .308 upper for your AR-15 since it's not possible.





DITTO!!!
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:04:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TravisJ1:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Ditch the .308 upper for your AR-15 since it's not possible.





DITTO!!!


I'm gonna take a guess that he ment an AR-10 or something along those lines.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:07:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Unless CMP means "U.S. G.I.", forget it. I want the real deal.

And I can't believe that wasn't on the list.





ok, now go to www.odcmp.com and educate yourself on getting a USGI garand directly from the .gov...
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:18:07 PM EDT
Swap the busy with an LE6920 and your ok.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:28:03 PM EDT
Why isn't there a FAL on the list?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:30:24 PM EDT
+1 on the Sharps 45-110. I gotta gets me one of them.

SM
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:39:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cduarte:

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Unless CMP means "U.S. G.I.", forget it. I want the real deal.

And I can't believe that wasn't on the list.





ok, now go to www.odcmp.com and educate yourself on getting a USGI garand directly from the .gov...



The CMP is no longer a government entity. It was shitcanned during Slick Willy's administration and is now a private corporation.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:47:27 PM EDT

No, criticize MY firearms purchases



Criticize? Okay..

That is the most fucked up wish list of firearms I have ever seen! Pathetic! WTF is wrong with you?




I think you meant 'critique'.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:52:58 PM EDT
I say ad a PTR91 to the list of rifles, and for shits and giggles add a DE 50 to your list of pistols.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:04:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By leelaw:

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Unless CMP means "U.S. G.I.", forget it. I want the real deal.

And I can't believe that wasn't on the list.



www.odcmp.com

Scroll to "CMP Sales" (middle)

Click on "Rifle Sales"

"M1 Garand"

Then select your grade - they've got nice USGI ones.



Nice prices, certainly better than I've seen at gunshows or advertised online. I'm a little confused by the terms they use to describe the condition of the rifles.

Rack grade and field grade have good prices, but I have no idea what this "throat 5" and crap means. I assume it means that they're nearly shot out and will need new barrels and stocks? How about the service grade? I take it those rifles are in good condition?

And does the NRA count as a CMP-friendly organization, or will I have to join another group to order a Garand?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:15:59 PM EDT
Why isnt there a H&K MP5 on your list.

Thats the top dog in my book.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:20:55 PM EDT
No GE Mini-Gun?
No Gatteling Gun?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:27:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By yugosksfan:

Originally Posted By cduarte:

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Unless CMP means "U.S. G.I.", forget it. I want the real deal.

And I can't believe that wasn't on the list.





ok, now go to www.odcmp.com and educate yourself on getting a USGI garand directly from the .gov...



The CMP is no longer a government entity. It was shitcanned during Slick Willy's administration and is now a private corporation.



I'm well aware of that, but it hardly changes the fact that you're getting rifles from the gov't. the cmp is just the enabler and they're a gov't chartered corp, hardly the same as century or SA, Inc....
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:31:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Here's a list of guns I want....






Plasma Rifle, 40 Watt Range
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:27:46 PM EDT
Spas = POS, geta nice Rem 870 Marine Magnum.

You also need a nice repro Colt Cartridge Conversion so you can feel like Clint Eastwood.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:24:59 PM EDT
MP5-SD3
glock
SIG
HK
(all .45acp/10mm/.357sig)
more ARs
more AKs
SKS
+1 on the Garand
M14/M1A
FAL
G-3 clone/HK91
Remington 700 w/ bull bbl
Remington 870
more 1911s
maybe a PSG-1
M1 carbine
ruger 10/22
AR-10/SR-25
P90
P2000
FN 5-7 USG


Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:23:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
MP5-SD3 Nah. I looked into an MP5/10. Too expensive.
glock Only if I decide I need to wear a gun in the pool.
SIG No.
HK No, I'm trying to limit the amount of over-engineered German crap.
(all .45acp/10mm/.357sig)
more ARs Eventually.
more AKs Eventually.
SKS Likely.
+1 on the Garand
M14/M1A Too expensive. I'll settle for a Garand and see about an M1A later.
FAL Nah.
G-3 clone/HK91 See response to over-engineered German guns.
Remington 700 w/ bull bbl Nah.
Remington 870 Nah, though I am considering a Witness Protection SBR model.
more 1911s Duh.
maybe a PSG-1 ....
M1 carbine As a gift for my grandfather. Which I will eventually inherit.
ruger 10/22 I'll settle with my Viper if I want a .22lr Ruger.
AR-10/SR-25 I guess.
P90 Unlikely.
P2000 Include this with the list of useless crap that I might buy just for kicks and grins, like the Desert Eagle.
FN 5-7 USG Unlikely, but I might do it just to piss off Feinswine.



Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:25:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 12:26:29 PM EDT by California_Kid]
Smith & Wesson .38 Special revolver (any model)
Ruger 10/22

BTW the Greek return CMP M1 Garands I've seen have all been in excellent condition metal-wise. Stocks are variable, ugly as sin to very nice.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:33:43 PM EDT
Skip the SPAS-12... I had a LAW-12 and it was quite possibly THE MOST DANGEROUS gun I've ever owned... Like the others said, it is complicated, parts are hard to find, it is heavy. I know you're going for looks so you might as well get a Benelli and have the functioning and safety part too...

Oh, Saiga to AK-104? Maybe something like this...



Spooky
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:41:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
MP5-SD3 Nah. I looked into an MP5/10. Too expensive.
glock Only if I decide I need to wear a gun in the pool.
SIG No.You're crazy! Sigs rock!!
HK No, I'm trying to limit the amount of over-engineered German crap. They're good pistols dude, get over it.
(all .45acp/10mm/.357sig)
more ARs Eventually.
more AKs Eventually.
SKS Likely.
+1 on the Garand
M14/M1A Too expensive. I'll settle for a Garand and see about an M1A later.
FAL Nah. You're nuts!!
G-3 clone/HK91 See response to over-engineered German guns.I have a CETME that I LOVE
Remington 700 w/ bull bbl Nah.
Remington 870 Nah, though I am considering a Witness Protection SBR model. pfft! You're touched in the head
more 1911s Duh.
maybe a PSG-1 ....That's the most over-engineered and expensive of them all....and yet it's the only one you want....
M1 carbine As a gift for my grandfather. Which I will eventually inherit.
ruger 10/22 I'll settle with my Viper if I want a .22lr Ruger. Is that POS plastic internal parts viper???
AR-10/SR-25 I guess. It's better then that single shot .308 upper you anted...
P90 Unlikely.
P2000 Include this with the list of useless crap that I might buy just for kicks and grins, like the Desert Eagle. They're far from useless.....just expensive
FN 5-7 USG Unlikely, but I might do it just to piss off Feinswine.




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