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Posted: 4/12/2001 12:00:21 PM EST
I was just reading an article, and it brought an idea into my mind.  There are still some states (*cough*Kalifornia*cough*) that make it extremely hard to get a CCW.  New York is another example, and of course, we can go on from there.  So the question is, if you were going into a bad neighborhood, would you let that lack of a CCW permit stop you?  Where do you draw the line and decide that enough is enough, you're gonna live through this, even if the other guy doesn't?
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:08:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:09:54 PM EST
When I travel in or out of state it is always under the assumption that I would rather be tried by a jury of my peers than carried by six of them.
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:18:49 PM EST
We have no CCW provisions at all in MO. (Even as a retired LEO there is no way I can get one.)
I carry every time I leave the house.
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:28:35 PM EST
 When I lived in the People's Republic of Maryland,  I was denied a CCW even though I'd been shot at - I was a bystander and not specifically targetted.  I voted with my feet and moved to another state where things are more reasonable..
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:31:06 PM EST
I made the decision long ago that I would carry legally as long as they gave me a legal avenue to do so.  And when they cease to give me that legal avenue I would carry anyway.
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:32:01 PM EST
Over here in the People's Republic of New Joyzee, only rich jews get carry permits.

I carry my Glock w/modified Birdman sights everywhere I go.

Nobody is gonna cap my black ass without getting a hail of gunfire in return.

BTW:  NJ sucks.  (ever drive through Cedar Grove??)
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:34:42 PM EST
Hypothetically speaking and for instance, if I lived in a place like southern California and the Rodney King civil verdicts were about to be announced, I would not leave the house without a firearm concealed about my person. Also, if my mother-in-law lived in a place like Cerritos, California, I might conceivably escort her that weekend to church and back, to the store and back, etc, carrying a firearm all the while.

But the police are there to protect us, so this hypothetical discussion, while entertaining, is essentially pointless.

Semper Fidelis
Jarhead out.

“. . . a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen.”
--Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App.181)
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:37:02 PM EST
paspecops - Welcome Home, brother!!

Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:39:51 PM EST
I carry always. When I happen to be in a place where carry is allowed legally then I carry larger less discreet firearm.

I always carry but when doing so illegally then I downsize.
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:41:24 PM EST
living in los angeles - i carry a concealed cell phone on condition one.  full battery and safety off :-)

i like the weapons carrying ability in israel the best - pop down to the 7-11 with an m4 for a slurpee - how cool is that?  off to the pet store, cleaners? take your best friend!!! (m4)

Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:43:21 PM EST
In Washington State I can't carry until I'm 21, I'm 19 now, I'll just wait two years.

Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:51:40 PM EST
When I lived back east, I carried, when I felt it was needed....Ohio had NO CCW, and my ex was in DC for a year....Carried, Carried, Carried..

Now I legally carry in-state...My parents live in KaliKomie.....No Komment.....
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 12:58:34 PM EST
On those rare occasions when I have to go into Philadelphia, it sure is comforting to have a .45 on my side and a .357 Magnum in my back pocket. Even better would be to never have to go there though.
I can't discuss situations when I have to work in Baltimore or DC. I'm still here though, aren't I?
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 1:05:27 PM EST
Live In Cincinnati Would you carry Take About1 sec and think about it!!!!
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 1:12:45 PM EST
Once again I must ask my repeated question-

Does the outcome of what might happen if you're a victim of a violent crime, outway the penalty of unlicensed concealed carry?

[b]DEATH[/b] vs. fine/jail time.

I carried before I was issued my permit and will carry again if they take it away. Where I'm from the LE Center is 50 miles away. I see a Deputy Sheriff in the area about every 2 months. There's now way one will be around when needed.

We all have the right to [b]Self Preservation.[/b] Do whatever it takes to [b]Stay Alive.[/b]    
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 1:42:17 PM EST
Calif does allow unlicensed carry in certain circumstances. Look up the following in DOJ-Dangerous Weapons Control Law.
 12031 (j)(1)
 12031 (j)(2)
 12031 (k)
 12031 (k)(1)
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 1:47:06 PM EST
I used to have something around all of the time.
Then I got civilized and got the proper paperwork and now I just carry the two allowable.
Both are Sigs. Use the same holsers etc. I'm set but wish that they were a bit smaller.
Link Posted: 4/12/2001 2:07:04 PM EST
Got mine, but with so many restrictions, what's the point?
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