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Posted: 9/12/2005 7:59:11 AM EDT
After speaking with several returning veterans, I have noticed there are no stories of prostitution over there in Iraq.

Does Islam forbid it? Or are GIs just abstaining?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:01:37 AM EDT
Probably the former, I would guess. I tend to think that the Islam upbringing of many of these women leads to a life of relative sexual conservatism, but that's just my armchair contention and I could be totally wrong.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:02:08 AM EDT
They just aren't sharing with you.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:02:33 AM EDT
Having sex out of marrige is against general orders in Centcom. Therefore, no troops are getting any loving.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:03:34 AM EDT
Because soul brother too beaucoup.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:05:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Having sex out of marrige is against general orders in Centcom.



your joking, right?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:08:11 AM EDT
During my seven month tour northwest of Ramadi, I did not see a ANY Iraqi women whatsoever. The only Iraqi female that I saw was perhaps four years old. They must keep them locked up or something...

The only person that I know had any sex during the deployment was the unit bull-dyke. And she was a monogomous bull-dyke.

is the term "bull-dyke" vorbotten?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:09:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GySgtD:
During my seven month tour northwest of Ramadi, I did not see a ANY Iraqi women whatsoever. The only Iraqi female that I saw was perhaps four years old. They must keep them locked up or something...

The only person that I know had any sex during the deployment was the unit bull-dyke. And she was a monogomous bull-dyke.

is the term "bull-dyke" vorbotten?



In the more backwoods parts of the Middle East they do - much like in rural America, women retain their tradtitional roles.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:10:17 AM EDT
Who needs Islamic prostitutes when you're surrounded by so many hot Army/USMC babes!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:10:51 AM EDT
More like it's a case of

"Get in HMMWV. Go on patrol. Hope not to get shot up too badly. Go back to base. Play computer games. Sleep"

There just isn't really the opportunity for it.

NTM
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:11:16 AM EDT
I think they have to import their bam-bam
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:19:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Manic_Moran:
More like it's a case of

"Get in HMMWV. Go on patrol. Hope not to get shot up too badly. Go back to base. Play computer games. Sleep"

There just isn't really the opportunity for it.

NTM



Aint that the truth. We worked thirteen hour days, seven days a week, for seven months straight. I personally only had one day off.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:24:15 AM EDT
Having heard harrowing tales of guys coming back from various areas of the world, I for one would vote to keep the trouser puppy on his leash.

VD has teeth out there.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:28:24 AM EDT
Dont troops get R&R in places like Dubai or something?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:43:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dino:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Having sex out of marrige is against general orders in Centcom.



your joking, right?



Nope. General Order #1

Specifically read Para 2, items m & n.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:53:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:04:08 AM EDT
Prostitution is very forbidden by Islam. It is punishable by death.

However, Shi'a Islam allows Muta'h marriages, which are temporary. The marriage has a specified duration, and a dowry must be paid. In Shiite countries, many Muta'h marriages are just prostitution by another name. During the Iran-Iraq war there were numerous news reports about the "temporary" marriages soldiers made for an hour prior to being shipped to the front.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:12:05 AM EDT
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.



Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:13:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie--180x230.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie.jpg



Any port in a storm.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:16:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By dvr9:
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie--180x230.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie.jpg



Any port in a storm.



That'd have to be a CAT 12 before touching that.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:18:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By Dino:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Having sex out of marrige is against general orders in Centcom.



your joking, right?



Nope. General Order #1

Specifically read Para 2, items m & n.



Read it again. Sex with the locals is out of the question. 'n' just prohibits co-habitation, it says nothing about sex with other servicepeople. Indeed, condoms are freely available at the medical clinics. I guess it makes sense, no point in issueing orders you know won't be obeyed anyway, best thing to do is try to keep it under control.

NTM
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:19:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By lagadelphia:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By dvr9:
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie--180x230.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie.jpg



Any port in a storm.



That'd have to be a CAT 12 before touching that.



I've seen people go back to their rooms with worse.

Personally, I'd rather slam my dick in a sliding glass door than hit that.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:31:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie--180x230.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie.jpg



Ho-leee shit. Some sick bastard fucked the kid from My Three Sons. I bet Uncle Charlie was pissed.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:39:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By photokirk:
Ho-leee shit. Some sick bastard fucked the kid from My Three Sons. I bet Uncle Charlie was pissed.



Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:40:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
I think they have to import their bam-bam



DAY-AM!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:46:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By xinflt:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
I think they have to import their bam-bam



DAY-AM!



+1

Also anyone who thinks that many GI's aren't getting any over there regardless of the General Orders is very delusional.

Never under estimate a horny GI's ingenuity.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:49:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GySgtD:

Originally Posted By Manic_Moran:
More like it's a case of

"Get in HMMWV. Go on patrol. Hope not to get shot up too badly. Go back to base. Play computer games. Sleep"

There just isn't really the opportunity for it.

NTM



Aint that the truth. We worked thirteen hour days, seven days a week, for seven months straight. I personally only had one day off.



This is pretty much our existence over here too. Been here for 10 months and the only days off I got were my leave days. There is no such thing as a day off here.

That said there is plenty of sex going on. You just have to know where/how to get it. I am not partaking, and it would be foolish for any married person to do it. But I know of single soldiers who are getting their share. Some of it is with female soldiers, some of it is with the foreign AAFES workers from Africa and Korea (yikes! we had one AAFES worker sent back to Korea because she was spreading around the clap), and I know of a soldier in another unit who is bringing home an Iraqi girl, to marry I guess.

There is prostitution over here too, except its on the DL. I work outside the wire 12-15 hours a day and its out there. The IPs are quick to point out the whore houses, and have asked if we want them to bring a girl over for "fiki-fiki" to which the answer is always no. Most of the whores are so-called "christian" females. Plus I hear tell that sex is ok with a female as long as its in the ass, as its not reserved for husband use like the vag is. They also have a pretty open idea of man on man love over here, I guess boys are ok too. In fact, we have had Iraqi boys as young as 10 offer themselves for money. After Abu Ghraib who knows what they have been told. So much for morals!

The women over here are quite beautiful I might add. We see a lot of them. But then we're out on the streets all the time.

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:51:38 AM EDT
oh yeah it happens i have even heard of them coming on base to do tricks
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 10:02:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
They just aren't sharing with you.



Your name seems to fit this thread well.....
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 10:38:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 10:40:07 AM EDT by CWO]

Originally Posted By photokirk:

Ho-leee shit. Some sick bastard fucked the kid from My Three Sons. I bet Uncle Charlie was pissed.




"Separated at birth - Lyndie England and "Chip" from My Three Sons"




Yikes!


CWO

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 10:46:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
They just aren't sharing with you.



Your name seems to fit this thread well.....





+1

There's a thread where he's asking for permission to change it
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 10:53:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie--180x230.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie.jpg



What is referred to by some as "Bush bush" i.e. when you're out in the bush it is ok to hit that.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:01:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By dvr9:
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie--180x230.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie.jpg



Any port in a storm.



It must have been one Hell of a storm. Can you imagine sending her a support check every month for 18 years. The secret would be out.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:08:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Originally Posted By Dino:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Having sex out of marrige is against general orders in Centcom.



your joking, right?



Nope. General Order #1

Specifically read Para 2, items m & n.



that is fuckin sad

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:09:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Originally Posted By dvr9:
I call . Yes it is against regs and muslim law etc, but I have only two horribly disturbing words for you. Please don't hate me for this.

Lyndie England. She went to Iraq and came home pregnant, someone had to hit it.

What is referred to by some as "Bush bush" i.e. when you're out in the bush it is ok to hit that.




I always gave chicks a four point "deployment handicap" on a ten point scale. If she's a one at home, she's a five in the sandbox, and thus doable. If she's a six or above at home, she's a "desert queen".
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:13:16 AM EDT
women aren't allowed to show any skin other than maybe their hands and right around their eyes in public under islamic law
do you really think they'd tolerate prostitution?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:16:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sharky30:
women aren't allowed to show any skin other than maybe their hands and right around their eyes in public under islamic law
do you really think they'd tolerate prostitution?



that is a very strict interpreation, and the Jews have the same laws.
do you really think that is followed anywhere but the backwoods areas of the middle east like Iran, and beduion villages?
You will not find any of that in the major cities in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, etc.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:20:18 AM EDT
During the Crusades Turkish whores were all the rage..... and seeing as how the regions does not seem ot have bothered to move ahead with the times at all in any meaningful manner, I am more than willing to bet there are still whores there
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:25:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
During the Crusades Turkish whores were all the rage..... and seeing as how the regions does not seem ot have bothered to move ahead with the times at all in any meaningful manner, I am more than willing to bet there are still whores there



Turkey's a different story, altho I've seen the inside of a Turkish whorehouse (kerhani) and it's not a pretty sight.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 11:33:44 AM EDT
I cannot speak for Iraq, but many Muslim community units make a cultural niche available for transgender males to act as playthings. Their position, which can mostly be described as a third gender role, is acceptable because they are nothing but catchers... not pitchers.

In the broader functional explanation of such societal construction, it allows for young women to remain "pure" while allowing males to have their necessary "release," as such is understood to be required.


- BG
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:35:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 1:36:22 PM EDT by sharky30]

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By sharky30:
women aren't allowed to show any skin other than maybe their hands and right around their eyes in public under islamic law
do you really think they'd tolerate prostitution?



that is a very strict interpreation, and the Jews have the same laws.
do you really think that is followed anywhere but the backwoods areas of the middle east like Iran, and beduion villages?
You will not find any of that in the major cities in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, etc.



I've seen that in pics from every arab country
I've seen it in America with my own eyes, only once but I still saw a woman in a burka in Buffalo fucking NY
remember that lady in florida suing over her driver's license?
it's in far more places than just the "backwoods"
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:36:56 PM EDT
Their women don't "love ya long time" over there. And from what I've seen of most of them, that's probably a good thing.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:01:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JackBurton:

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
They just aren't sharing with you.



Your name seems to fit this thread well.....





+1

There's a thread where he's asking for permission to change it



What happens in the team forum, stays in the Team forum.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:12:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
Prostitution is very forbidden by Islam. It is punishable by death.

However, Shi'a Islam allows Muta'h marriages, which are temporary. The marriage has a specified duration, and a dowry must be paid. In Shiite countries, many Muta'h marriages are just prostitution by another name. During the Iran-Iraq war there were numerous news reports about the "temporary" marriages soldiers made for an hour prior to being shipped to the front.



actually the term is called Sighe' (prenounced C - ray)... it is a temporary marriage that is arranged for a contractual period of time that can be as short as 1 hour.

Prior to the marriage being signed off on by a mullah, the woman has to agree to a sum of money for "alamony", to be paid after the marriage period is over. In reality, is her fee for doing the deed.

I don't know why they don't just cut out the bullshit
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:18:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sharky30:
women aren't allowed to show any skin other than maybe their hands and right around their eyes in public under islamic law
do you really think they'd tolerate prostitution?



That is the strict Islamic states you are refering to.

Iraq was a secular country before the war and still is today. It is not mandatory in Iraq for woman to cover themselves head to toe like it is in Saudi Arabia or Iran for example.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:21:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 2:23:06 PM EDT by glockguy40]

Originally Posted By sharky30:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By sharky30:
women aren't allowed to show any skin other than maybe their hands and right around their eyes in public under islamic law
do you really think they'd tolerate prostitution?



that is a very strict interpreation, and the Jews have the same laws.
do you really think that is followed anywhere but the backwoods areas of the middle east like Iran, and beduion villages?
You will not find any of that in the major cities in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, etc.



I've seen that in pics from every arab country
I've seen it in America with my own eyes, only once but I still saw a woman in a burka in Buffalo fucking NY
remember that lady in florida suing over her driver's license?
it's in far more places than just the "backwoods"



I think want he is saying is that it is not the norm, which you are making it out to be. One chick in florida doesn't mean it is common in Florida. Same with other secular middle eastern states.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:22:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By JackBurton:

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
They just aren't sharing with you.



Your name seems to fit this thread well.....





+1

.



What happens in the team forum, stays in the Team forum.



I never brought up that thread nor quoted the above. But you did.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:27:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By photokirk:

Ho-leee shit. Some sick bastard fucked the kid from My Three Sons. I bet Uncle Charlie was pissed.




"Separated at birth - Lyndie England and "Chip" from My Three Sons"

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/DVR9/lyndie--180x230.jpg
www.nostalgiacentral.com/images_tv/comedy/my3sons_678.JPG

Yikes!


CWO




Er...um...that isn't Chip, that is Ernie. But the resemblance is uncanny.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 2:46:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 3:08:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By sharky30:
women aren't allowed to show any skin other than maybe their hands and right around their eyes in public under islamic law
do you really think they'd tolerate prostitution?



That is the strict Islamic states you are refering to.

Iraq was a secular country before the war and still is today. It is not mandatory in Iraq for woman to cover themselves head to toe like it is in Saudi Arabia or Iran for example.



I hope the country stays secular...
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 3:29:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By sharky30:
women aren't allowed to show any skin other than maybe their hands and right around their eyes in public under islamic law
do you really think they'd tolerate prostitution?



that is a very strict interpreation, and the Jews have the same laws.
do you really think that is followed anywhere but the backwoods areas of the middle east like Iran, and beduion villages?
You will not find any of that in the major cities in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, etc.



I haven't seen many Jewish girls in a burka lately.
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