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11/9/2018 9:21:38 PM
Posted: 10/16/2018 6:37:07 PM EST
As I mentioned in Vacaduck’s thread, I’m looking at getting my mom a better telephoto lens for her D3400. Keep in mind I don’t have any expertise in this area so I hope someone can help me from screwing up.

I have been eyeballing the AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR lense. After watching a couple YouTube videos I’m not quite sure this may be practical for my mom. She does a mixture of hiking and driving thru the local wildlife refuge’s we have here and taking pictures from her car.

I don’t remember the specs but the camera came with two lenses, and the telephoto lense works great for her needs fairly close. I would venture to guess within 40 yards or so. So a lense that could really reach out and obtain better pictures at around 70-100 yards would be fantastic. And with all that said I would like to keep the budget around $1,500 tops. I’ve got all my Christmas shopping done with exception for my Mom, so any and all help, suggestions, don’t be a dumbass and buy this or that would be greatly appreciated!
Link Posted: 10/16/2018 7:49:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2018 7:53:56 PM EST by FredMan]
My standard answer to the long lens question is the Tamron 150-600, either G1 or G2.

It will be GINORMOUS on a 3400 body.

You could do her a really big favor and get her an upgraded body (D7100) and a G1 150-600 for not much more than your $1500 budget.

Here it is on a D7100.

DSCN2043-D7100_Tamron600 by FredMan, on Flickr

Here it is next to the Nikkor 70-300.

300 & 600 by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 10/16/2018 8:21:52 PM EST
Thank you FredMan. Only problem I see, unless I’m mistaken is the Tamron 150-600 wont work for the D3400.
Link Posted: 10/16/2018 8:35:25 PM EST
D3400 uses the standard Nikon F mount, so IDK why it wouldn't work.
Link Posted: 10/16/2018 9:28:27 PM EST
It has a built in drive motor, so it should work with the 3400.
Link Posted: 10/17/2018 2:58:03 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/17/2018 3:41:28 AM EST
Another vote for the 150-600 Tamron. I have the G2. Ive been very happy with it.Attachment Attached File
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Link Posted: 10/17/2018 5:40:15 PM EST
Hell, here's a couple of my favorite 150-600 shots.

Cold Wet Deer by FredMan, on Flickr

Hummer Hover Wings Forward by FredMan, on Flickr

Heron On Piling by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 10/18/2018 8:20:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zack3g:
The bigger issue is that the D3400 won't really have the AF points or AF accuracy to be useful for wildlife.

It also does not have easy access to the settings you need to control most often.

The old wisdom says lens before body when upgrading. In this case that's not exactly a great idea.

A D7100 or D7200 would be much better for this use and could actually make a lot better use of a longer lens. The controls you need are easy to get to and plus it has the ability to fine tune the focus which on a D3400 if the AF is off...it's just off, or you send the lens + the camera to the factory to get them to calibrate it.
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Off hand do you know if same lenses that came with the D3400 will work for the D7100/D7200?
Link Posted: 10/18/2018 8:21:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1057:

Off hand do you know if same lenses that came with the D3400 will work for the D7100/D7200?
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Yes they will.
Link Posted: 10/18/2018 9:17:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
Yes they will.
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Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
Originally Posted By 1057:

Off hand do you know if same lenses that came with the D3400 will work for the D7100/D7200?
Yes they will.
Thank you Sir!

Looks like I’m going to scrap the lense idea and just get my Mom an updated D7200. Thank all you so much for y’alls Expertise!
Link Posted: 10/18/2018 9:44:29 PM EST
Shot this with the 70-300 kit lens on my D7200.

Link Posted: 10/18/2018 10:27:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
Shot this with the 70-300 kit lens on my D7200.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102931/7200_002Moon-584851.jpg
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Ok I’m sold! TY!
Link Posted: 10/19/2018 12:04:17 AM EST
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Thoughts on buying now vs waiting for potentional Black Friday deals?
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Originally Posted By 1057:
Thoughts on buying now vs waiting for potentional Black Friday deals?
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The refurb sale at Nikon is over, so you may as well wait and see if anything good drops.
Link Posted: 10/22/2018 1:48:31 AM EST
nice i have the d7500 with the 70 to 300mm and cant wait to get a good tripod to start taking picks of the moon like that. At 140mm by hand they come out ok, need more stability and lens power out.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:23:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/23/2018 8:42:23 PM EST by FredMan]
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Originally Posted By gl08jk:
nice i have the d7500 with the 70 to 300mm and cant wait to get a good tripod to start taking picks of the moon like that. At 140mm by hand they come out ok, need more stability and lens power out.
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Not saying a tripod doesn't help, but the moon is bright enough that hand-held is not difficult. Try it some time.

I think I actually used a tripod for this one, but it's 1/320, f/8, ISO100 (and 600mm). That's an easy hand-held shot, even at 600mm. Just brace the body with your arms against your rib cage, breathe, exhale, and roll your finger on the shutter. Shoot at high framerate, get 5-10 frames, and select for sharpness.

DSC_9142-Moon 20161012 Night by FredMan, on Flickr

And just for fun, here's one I just shot 5 minutes ago, with that 70-300 lens. This was handheld, and EXIF is 300mm, f/5.6, 1/800, ISO250. In particular note the fast 1/800 shutter. No tripod needed :), but having the reach of 600mm (900mm for FX-equivalent; I shoot a D500) REALLY helps. In

Moon 20181023 300mm by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 11/10/2018 10:55:15 AM EST
Based on this thread I now have a Tamron 150-600 lens coming from B&H. Will sit on my D7200 and hopefully help me get some strong close up shots like y'all are getting.
Link Posted: 11/10/2018 1:14:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tigers1363:
Based on this thread I now have a Tamron 150-600 lens coming from B&H. Will sit on my D7200 and hopefully help me get some strong close up shots like y'all are getting.
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G1 or G2?

And you will LOVE it.

Keep in mind it's sharpest at f/9 or f/10; shooting 600mm at f/6.3 is going to be a little soft.
Link Posted: 11/10/2018 1:28:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FredMan:

G1 or G2?

And you will LOVE it.

Keep in mind it's sharpest at f/9 or f/10; shooting 600mm at f/6.3 is going to be a little soft
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G1....thought it would be the G2.

Done some more research on it. Going to order the G2 as well and send back the G1 as soon as it gets here.
Link Posted: 11/10/2018 9:53:23 PM EST
I just want to add that y’all are awesome! Thanks again guys for helping me and the guy above me out. I might wind up with my Mom’s old D3400 and catch the photography bug myself
Link Posted: 11/10/2018 10:10:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1057:
I just want to add that y'all are awesome! Thanks again guys for helping me and the guy above me out. I might wind up with my Mom's old D3400 and catch the photography bug myself
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Catch the bug. I'm definitely not a good photographer, but the one good picture that I somehow manage makes it worth it.

A great hobby to have.
Link Posted: 11/13/2018 12:22:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/13/2018 12:23:41 AM EST by NorthPolar]
Congrats on the new addiction. By the way, does anyone need a kidney? I have this itch to get a 800mm f/5.6 and it’s only $16,250 or so...
Link Posted: 11/13/2018 12:33:09 AM EST
I had the Tamron 150-600 first. Very problematic autofocus. I sold it and got the Nikon 200-500. Despite a SLIGHT loss in total zoom capacity, autofocus works much better and I found that the Nikon lens is about equal for sharpness, maybe even a tiny bit better, but it's so close I couldn't be sure.

I photograph fast moving objects with that lens. Airshows and racing events. So the Nikon lens with its more reliable and faster autofocus is definitely the right choice for me.

For wildlife and birding, the lower cost Tamron is probably a slightly better choice.
Link Posted: 11/13/2018 1:00:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Zack3g:
Get a 400 f/2.8 like mine and a 2x tc for it.

Most of the performance for a third of the price if you shop smart.
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Originally Posted By Zack3g:
Originally Posted By NorthPolar:
Congrats on the new addiction. By the way, does anyone need a kidney? I have this itch to get a 800mm f/5.6 and it’s only $16,250 or so...
Get a 400 f/2.8 like mine and a 2x tc for it.

Most of the performance for a third of the price if you shop smart.
I’m not seriously in the market for one, but that is a really good point. Hadn’t considered that.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 9:15:53 PM EST


150-600mm came in today. Walked outside and took this real quick without a tripod. I'm pleased so far.
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Originally Posted By Zack3g:

Not bad for a first attempt. Get it stable, get it dialed in, get the processing worked out and you can see a lot more detail.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/724/23753323562_1e324c8d8a_b.jpgmoon stack 2 by Zack, on Flickr
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That's awesome detail you got.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 9:44:43 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 10:54:07 PM EST
I love my 150-600.

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I do agree that the body needs to be upgraded to see the best results.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:58:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MirrorMirror:
I had the Tamron 150-600 first. Very problematic autofocus. I sold it and got the Nikon 200-500. Despite a SLIGHT loss in total zoom capacity, autofocus works much better and I found that the Nikon lens is about equal for sharpness, maybe even a tiny bit better, but it's so close I couldn't be sure.

I photograph fast moving objects with that lens. Airshows and racing events. So the Nikon lens with its more reliable and faster autofocus is definitely the right choice for me.

For wildlife and birding, the lower cost Tamron is probably a slightly better choice.
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What body? Mine certainly isn't as fast focusing as some other lenses, but it's held it's own on a D7100 and a D500.

ETA and hell, as long as were posting moon shots with the Tamron...

DSC_8464-Moon160116 by FredMan, on Flickr

DSC_9561-Moon160130 by FredMan, on Flickr
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