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Posted: 4/22/2016 11:11:15 PM EDT
Just received a set of new PVS 14s from TNVC, and let me tell you.... WOW!  Also, I used a Surefire RC 2 suppressor on 5.56 and 7.62... Lame

Many people have asked if they should get a suppressor or NVGs first.  I would absolutely go with the NVG's.. Major giggle factor.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:16:02 PM EDT
Shut your whore mouth.

Nods, suppresses and body armor is what separates us from animals.

Get all three.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:16:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/22/2016 11:17:01 PM EDT by RockHard13F]
Originally Posted By TS1776:
Just received a set of new PVS 14s from TNVC, and let me tell you.... WOW!  Also, I used a Surefire RC 2 suppressor on 5.56 and 7.62... Lame

Many people have asked if they should get a suppressor or NVGs first.  I would absolutely go with the NVG's.. Major giggle factor.
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Night vision is awesome, and a great force multiplier, however...  

How often have you fired your 5.56 or 7.62 rifle inside of a normal residential hallway or room?  Try it with and without a suppressor, then get back to us.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:17:01 PM EDT
You, sir, are incorrect.  All fun things are necessary and of great value.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:18:32 PM EDT
i have even better day Vision on my rifle.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:18:37 PM EDT
Get both.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:19:13 PM EDT
What's that running these days price wise?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:19:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/22/2016 11:23:54 PM EDT by sully3acr]
All I hear is "Bla, Bla, Bla I'm a filthy hore"!!
Get both.....
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:21:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockHard13F:

How often have you fired your 5.56 or 7.62 rifle inside of a normal residential hallway or room?  Try it with and without a suppressor, then get back to us.
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This. Suppressors are there for when you need to actually use the rifle. Self defense or end of the world scenario.

I have my own range in the country, but with neighbors, a can is a huge help. I can shoot much earlier (or later) without disturbing them. I asked and they said they can't even hear the canned 5.56. So I can pretty much shoot whenever I want because of it.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:22:10 PM EDT
Just my opinion, if I had to do it over, I would have gotten the NODs before the suppressors.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:22:14 PM EDT
supressor can be well under $1000. NV is not.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:24:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
supressor can be well under $1000. NV is not.
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It's your money but... it's dark half the time.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:27:29 PM EDT
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noob
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:33:56 PM EDT
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Good choice in a truck along with all other items
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:34:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Knightzone:
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Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:38:39 PM EDT
Yep, NODs first.

Thermals are cool too, but cost a pretty penny.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:38:59 PM EDT
I had experience with NVGs, MGs, and all kinds of fun stuff, but the first time I shot 300 blk suppressed I literally giggled.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:40:35 PM EDT
Get both
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:41:25 PM EDT
You are correct.


Looking for some sponsors for when I "Escape from NY!"
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:42:17 PM EDT
Wait till you play with thermal
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:42:30 PM EDT
FPNI


Get both
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:42:44 PM EDT

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Get both.
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Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:44:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockHard13F:



Night vision is awesome, and a great force multiplier, however...  

How often have you fired your 5.56 or 7.62 rifle inside of a normal residential hallway or room?  Try it with and without a suppressor, then get back to us.
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Originally Posted By RockHard13F:
Originally Posted By TS1776:
Just received a set of new PVS 14s from TNVC, and let me tell you.... WOW!  Also, I used a Surefire RC 2 suppressor on 5.56 and 7.62... Lame

Many people have asked if they should get a suppressor or NVGs first.  I would absolutely go with the NVG's.. Major giggle factor.



Night vision is awesome, and a great force multiplier, however...  

How often have you fired your 5.56 or 7.62 rifle inside of a normal residential hallway or room?  Try it with and without a suppressor, then get back to us.



What?










"Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee."
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Originally Posted By getboth:


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.
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Originally Posted By getboth:
Originally Posted By Knightzone:
Get both.


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.



you do exist !!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:56:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mousehunter:
Wait till you play with thermal
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This.  /thread
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:59:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By getboth:


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.
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Originally Posted By getboth:
Originally Posted By Knightzone:
Get both.


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.


Didn't expect that.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:00:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:


This.  /thread
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By mousehunter:
Wait till you play with thermal


This.  /thread



I was thinking about this today.  Are thermal goggles worth it, or just weapon mounted?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:00:24 AM EDT
I really need to stop buying all this cheap gun stuff and save up for a quality gun, can, and NV.

Starting today.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:00:27 AM EDT
I really have no use for NODs.  No where to shoot at night.  They would just be a toy for looking around.  A very expensive toy.  I used PVS14's and 7's in the Army... so any budget NODs will just be a huge disappointment to me.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:01:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MP0117:
Shut your whore mouth.

Nods, suppresses and body armor is what separates us from animals.

Get all three.
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This
Surefires are loud, try a different can
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:02:01 AM EDT
They kinda go together.  You should have both.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:03:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:


This
Surefires are loud, try a different can
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By MP0117:
Shut your whore mouth.

Nods, suppresses and body armor is what separates us from animals.

Get all three.


This
Surefires are loud, try a different can


Yep.

My 7.62 mini on a 10.5 5.56 is no jaw dropper
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:04:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By getboth:


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.
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Originally Posted By getboth:
Originally Posted By Knightzone:
Get both.


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.

I think you just won the thread.  But really, who were you before you were changed to getboth?  That is fucking amazing.








But I think you are wrong.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:04:45 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By dskeet:


I really have no use for NODs.  No where to shoot at night.  They would just be a toy for looking around.  A very expensive toy.
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This is what keeps preventing me from ponying up for NODs. I live in the suburbs, don't hunt, and don't have access to empty land. Thousands of dollars in night shooting gear would just sit in my safe unused.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:06:03 AM EDT
Get both

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Originally Posted By diehippy:


They kinda go together.  You should have both.
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Get both

 




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Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:


Yep.

My 7.62 mini on a 10.5 5.56 is no jaw dropper
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Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By MP0117:
Shut your whore mouth.

Nods, suppresses and body armor is what separates us from animals.

Get all three.


This
Surefires are loud, try a different can


Yep.

My 7.62 mini on a 10.5 5.56 is no jaw dropper


Mine is on an 11.5, but I'd agree that it is louder than others in its class.  I like the attachment method though.


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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:09:12 AM EDT
I have night vision and thermal, I cant have suppressors, so suppressors are better. [5yearoldlogic]
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:09:22 AM EDT
.22 is well worth it, all others are just fun
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:13:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:

Never but the 25 dB worth of reduction is going to mean very little to help your hearing.
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Originally Posted By Paul:
Originally Posted By RockHard13F:How often have you fired your 5.56 or 7.62 rifle inside of a normal residential hallway or room?  Try it with and without a suppressor, then get back to us.

Never but the 25 dB worth of reduction is going to mean very little to help your hearing.


I will take what I can get- still more useful than NODs in the vast majority of home defense scenarios.  

Now that said, there is a reason my HD gun is a .300blk suppressed with subsonics.  It will make a massive difference for my hearing versus no suppressor, and I need to save as much as I can at this point.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:15:21 AM EDT
lol.  Night is for sleeping.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:22:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TS1776:


I was thinking about this today.  Are thermal goggles worth it, or just weapon mounted?
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Weapon mounted is more practical.

Nods for walking around, thermals for scanning.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:27:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:

Never but the 25 dB worth of reduction is going to mean very little to help your hearing.
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Originally Posted By Paul:
Originally Posted By RockHard13F:How often have you fired your 5.56 or 7.62 rifle inside of a normal residential hallway or room?  Try it with and without a suppressor, then get back to us.

Never but the 25 dB worth of reduction is going to mean very little to help your hearing.


As far as permanent damage goes, I ain't a doctor, so I cannot really say, but for immediate effects?  Yeah, there's a marked difference in immediate effects of an unsuppressed MP-5 fired indoors from the shoulder (extremely loud ringing, making it difficult to hear anything afterwards,) a suppressed M-4 fired from right beside you by someone else ("dang that was LOUD! But I can still hear things,) and a .357 mag fired right next to your left ear by a guy you are fighting with (absolute and total deafness for more than 10 minutes.  Like, "come on guys, why are you messing with me by moving your mouths and not making any noise.  Wait, why do I sound to myself like I am under water.  Crap.  I can't hear anything.) An unsuppressed Mini-14 fired in my direction from about ten feet away was closer to the .357 mag than the MP-5, but the total loss was much shorter.

I am sure all of them, along with outdoors exposure without ear protection, all contributed to my constant "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee," but there is a difference.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:27:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Knightzone:


Didn't expect that.
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Originally Posted By Knightzone:
Originally Posted By getboth:
Originally Posted By Knightzone:
Get both.


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.


Didn't expect that.


Say "I want super precision" and see what happens
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:30:07 AM EDT
I have both. Suppressors get the nod from me.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:42:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NuclearCookies:

I think you just won the thread.  But really, who were you before you were changed to getboth?  That is fucking amazing.








But I think you are wrong.
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Originally Posted By NuclearCookies:
Originally Posted By getboth:
Originally Posted By Knightzone:
Get both.


Well, since you asked me, I would go with night vision first.

I think you just won the thread.  But really, who were you before you were changed to getboth?  That is fucking amazing.








But I think you are wrong.


No name change was necessary, it was available when I signed up.  I was surprised too.

Well, that's like your opinion, man.
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