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Newsweek lobbies for extended mag ban...
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/03/13/2-405-shot-dead-since-tucson.print.html 2,405 Shot Dead Since Tucson Since the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords in Arizona, the number of Americans killed by guns has not let up. How a court ruling and Dick Cheney have given Obama a chance he should take. by Andrew Romano and Pat WingertMarch 13, 2011 Charles Ommanney / Getty Images Photos: Surviving the Massacre & 'Living for 32' Surviving the Massacre & 'Living for 32' On a snowy Wednesday evening in February, the main attraction on the marquee at the Lyric Theatre in Blacksburg, Va., was True Grit, the Coen Brothers’ bloody homage to the shoot-’em-up Westerns of Hollywood’s Golden Age. But the movie playing inside had a very different message to send. Four years ago, on April 16, 2007, Colin Goddard was one of 49 people shot by Seung-Hui Cho in Virginia Tech’s Norris Hall, a mere 1,000 yards from the Lyric Theatre—and one of only 17 who survived. Shortly after 9 a.m., Cho forced his way into Goddard’s French class, firing on the teacher and then methodically stalking the aisles, pumping an estimated 200 bullets from his Glock 19 and Walther .22 into every student he could see. Goddard was hit four times: twice in the hips, once in the right shoulder, once in the left knee. Edited, CC#10 -G |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:17:56 PM EST
I agree. Liberal magazines should be limited to ten pages or less. No one needs more bullshit that that concentrated in one place at any one time.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:19:59 PM EST
Magazine editors. 
1938 Time Magazine Man of the Year. Adolf Hitler |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:20:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2011 12:20:31 PM EST by patriot73]
William Randolf Hearst would be proud of their yellow journalism.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:23:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2011 12:40:09 PM EST by TheYellowThing]
Fuck 'em
eta: Is there really a gun known as the Mach 11? |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:26:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2011 12:26:45 PM EST by TrojanMan]
Wow. Newsweek fluffs itself.
Oh, keep paying attention to this issue and reading, because there are a lot of people who will be saying things and there will be others who will write what they say! It's going to be so great! News is going to happen, people! Yaaaaaay! |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:26:35 PM EST
I think we should lobby for more regulation of the media.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:27:06 PM EST
"Loughner-style clips"
Seriously?  |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:30:53 PM EST
I thought Newsweek was bankrupt and for the most part, irrelevant?
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:36:48 PM EST
Colin Goddard is making money off the deaths of 32 people. He is a paid employee of the Brady Campaign.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:37:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By Thuban:
I agree. Liberal magazines should be limited to ten pages or less. No one needs more bullshit that that concentrated in one place at any one time. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:39:19 PM EST
Obama should get behind it.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 1:43:37 PM EST
Funny how "gun control advocates" are now called "gun safety advocates". The "liberals"––oops, I mean "progressives" keep changing the names of things in order to confuse people and hide their agendas.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 1:47:40 PM EST
They did the same thing in the 1980's after Pres. Reagan and again after the McDonald's San Ysidro shooting.
Good thing their new ownership group has not changed the magazine.... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 2:32:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By SWS:
I thought Newsweek was bankrupt and for the most part, irrelevant? It got sold off for $1 and assumption of all the debt. Forgot who the new owner is because I could really give a shit; but the new editor is Tina Brown, who besides having strong Hillary love, has already presided over the death of several other "newsmagazines," so I take that as a good sign. As far as the article, dumb article, dumb idea. Gun control always polls well - typically because the ideas in the poll are vague and non-specific (limit super killing magazines? Sure.). It is when they propose legislation and the poor bastard who was polled finds out that all of his magazines are "super killing magazines" that things go south for them. There are millions upon millions of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds in the U.S. - you are going to break a lot of eggs trying to make that omelet and only an idiot who wasn't seeking reelection would add that to his "to do" list given the current challenges facing us; but you can always hope they try - especially with a House that has 265 A-Rated members in it. Standard thinking for too much of publishing these days - write a contrarian article advocating a stupid idea on the basis that the common wisdom is wrong and then enjoy all the attention you get as people laugh at your stupidity. You might not win any Pulitzers; but it does brings eyes you can show to advertisers. |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 2:45:56 PM EST
Time, Newsweek etc. have lost their hold on the news cycle. They are has beens. In short, who cares what their editors spew.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 2:48:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By SWS:
I thought Newsweek was bankrupt and for the most part, irrelevant? I thought somebody bought them out for a dollar. |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 2:56:58 PM EST
I actually found a torn in half copy of newsweek stuffed into the seat back pocket on a recent plane flight. It looked to be about 30 pages thick.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 2:58:12 PM EST
Yes like a magazine that made Hitler man of the year has any credibility.
Asshats!
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:11:30 PM EST
Come and take em!! out of my cold dead fingers.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:14:06 PM EST
Coooommme giit em
    
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:15:14 PM EST
Newsweek; circling the drain of periodical oblivion since the internet was born.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:20:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By ohiobr:
"Loughner-style clips" Seriously?
Oh man. That's what all of my 33 rounders are getting called now. 
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:31:20 PM EST
Washington Post liberal rag sold Newsweek to liberal hag Tina Brown for $1 http://www.businessinsider.com/tina-brown-newsweek-kathleen-parker-2011-3
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:34:46 PM EST
NEWSWEEK - 2,405 Shot Dead Since Tucson
Newsweek. Heh. I wonder how many it is once we remove: Criminals shot by police Criminals shot by citizens (lawfully) Suicides (call me callous but I don't care) Accidents Criminals shot by other criminals (boo hoo) |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:35:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2011 3:36:30 PM EST by ProCCW]
I think "all" democrats should get behind a ban. (re: 94 Clinton gun ban.)
We could use more seats in the house and senate. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:50:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By SWS:
I thought Newsweek was bankrupt and for the most part, irrelevant? Pretty much. As I recall, the Washington Post publishing group pretty much sold it to someone else for a $1 just to be rid of it's money losing ass. That's right a $1. 
Arfcom should have done a group buy, started publishing it as a full color version of GD. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:54:14 PM EST
Time and Newsweek are a joke.
30 years ago when I was in school this was about all we could get. But with the Internet today and all the varied sources for news and information, the days of Time and Newsweek are OVER. These rags are biased, and often just downright wrong. They're a joke. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:57:11 PM EST
I wonder why many newspapers and magazines continue to go out of business? Tier 1 reporting at Newsweek. I may subscribe next year.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:59:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By mattja:
Time and Newsweek are a joke. 30 years ago when I was in school this was about all we could get. But with the Internet today and all the varied sources for news and information, the days of Time and Newsweek are OVER. These rags are biased, and often just downright wrong. They're a joke. Not really news but more of a news recap. With added opinions. |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 4:03:09 PM EST
Newsweak pulled the same crap after Columbine.
Here toy go: http://www.mrc.org/notablequotables/1999/nq19990823.asp Crippling Fraternity of the Gun "America, or at least the sensible center where most of us stand, has had enough –– of this senseless violence, and of this circular debate. For more than a generation, we’ve watched as the great and the pedestrian have died in the line of fire. Though it won’t do to act as though, in the emotional aftermath of yet another shooting, a sweeping ban or a single bill will keep more tragedies from happening, it also won’t do to shrug off the deadly role guns play. So what must be done? It is time, as Franklin Roosevelt said long ago, to try something...." –– From Newsweek’s August 23 editorial urging more gun controls, only its fourth editorial ever. "Many ordinary Americans have also become caught up in the cult of the gun. For them, it is not a jarring source of violence but as much an accepted part of the landscape as forests and rivers. Such people often resist controls over the objects they revere. But human beings are capable of modifying their own mythologies. After the tragedies in Littleton, Colo.; Atlanta, and now Los Angeles, Americans have shown signs of a change in their feelings about guns, seeing them increasingly as more dangerous than sacred. That kind of collective psychological shift is necessary if we are ever to transcend the crippling fraternity of the gun." –– Conclusion to uncountered piece in the August 23 Newsweek by Professor Robert Jay Lifton of John Jay College at the City University of New York. |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 4:21:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By mattja:
Time and Newsweek are a joke. 30 years ago when I was in school this was about all we could get. I remember back around the time the assault weapons bill passed, in '94. Time and Newsweek were cheering it on, and telling outlandish lies to help it happen. They could get away with it because they and their ilk had a stranglehold on the media. Well, fuck you, assholes. Gun owners are still standing strong and you're a failed industry. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 4:31:46 PM EST
I'd like to lobby for an extended newseek ban.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 4:36:01 PM EST
Objective journalism is for suckas.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 4:48:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2011 4:49:21 PM EST by Tango7]
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Objective journalism is for suckas. No, but it doesn't pander to the base - the only folks who still subscribe - thus it doesn't pay the bills. These are the same folks who talked about the "need" for the AWB when even Mile Royko, a die-hard lib and lifetime (D) laughed at the proponents and printed the <2% statistic as proof that it was all talk words and no real results. Remember, these are the folks who refute every argument proven false by reproducible statistics* with an emotional plea that cannot be proven or disproven. * Dr. Kellerman's 1993 "a gun in the house = a 43% chance of being killed by a gun" study The suggested correlation or causation between laws enacting "shall issue" CCW and resultant increases in gun violence ("Blood in the streets at car accidents / OK Corral") The suggested increase in armed violence in states with "shall issue" CCW. Women armed with guns cannot/ prevent rapists or BV and wind up being the victim of them instead |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 5:34:49 PM EST
Used a drop e-addy to fire this one off in the "comments" section - right above a spam ad, which shows how concerned they are.
Ahh, Newseek - still clinging bitterly to the gun control issue, and willing to sacrifice factual reporting for the eye (and emotion) catching headline.
You bemoan that "The state (Arizona) is now wilder than the Wild West", yet you fail to mention any actual statistics from the 1880 era - a time period that showed a fraction of the crimes we simply accept on a daily basis. If the prevalence of guns is the reason for such horrendous crimes, then why haven't we seen rampages committed en masse in states that allow CCW with (or without) permits before now? The statistic you cite is a curious one, since typically the CDC compiles data for reports based on the previous year. You say the number is "based on" their data, so I ask how is it "based"? Did you make an "educated guess" from the numbers for the same time frame in 2010? Or did you simply pull a number out of thin air? More questions arise- like how many of those who were shot were killed while in the commision of a felony, such as armed robbery or drug dealing? And how many of those who did the killing had felony records or other disqualifying history for firearms ownership... and if they weren't stopped by the dozens of existing laws, what makes you think another law would magically work? How many of these deaths were suicides, who most likely would find another means to end their existence in your firearms-free utopia? How many cops have been killed with "cop killer" bullets, and if they really do exists, then why have the "plastic guns" you mention never actually been produced by any major firearms manufacturer? Speaking of omitted information, you fail to mention that the "shootout at the OK Corral" was a shooting that involved law enforcement officers, and only resulted in three fatalities - far less than folks who use it as an example of lawness abandon would have you believe. Interestingly enough, the firearm fatality statistics you mention includes a category of "legally justificed homicide", which includes the killing of criminals by law enforcement and law abiding citizens, although you have to go deeper than the front page for it. But I guess when your priority is pushing a platform, rather then reporting actual news, anything resembling the "rules of journalism" - especially objectivity - is fair game. Was going to actually send it to them as a letter, but they don't have contact info posted - maybe you have to subscribe for that. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2011 5:45:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By Thuban:
Aw shucks, you took mine. There's something ironic about a magazine campaigning for a "magazine ban".
I agree. Liberal magazines should be limited to ten pages or less. No one needs more bullshit that that concentrated in one place at any one time. |
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