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Posted: 9/29/2004 10:35:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:38:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 10:39:04 AM EDT by mjohn3006]
Is there supposed to be a...uh...hole in the center of the barrel? What am I missing?

ETA Looks like he has tape over it.



Great pics.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:40:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 10:48:00 AM EDT by DriftPunch]
Strange, an RPD in active service when PKs seem available...



I'm suprised he's got a K2. Perhaps it's a status thing...


Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:41:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 10:42:14 AM EDT by Quien]


Is there supposed to be a...uh...hole in the center of the barrel? What am I missing?



He's got a "shoot-through" muzzle cap/protector." Keeps the sand out...
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:43:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 10:44:07 AM EDT by CockedandLocked]
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:46:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 10:48:43 AM EDT by TimJ]
Lumpy rules!

Holy crap! Nigerian guerillas with Korean rifles??? WTF, over?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:53:42 AM EDT
hmmm, looks like we're rubbing off on the iraqis a little. other than that, disappointing as usual.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:02:39 AM EDT


Okay is there some code that says they have to wear the vests? It looks like a very tough job but I think I would try to blend in more than "dress the part"... But if you blend in to well would that cause other problems????

Anyone have any ideas on this?

BTW thanks Lumpy.

MT
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:05:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 11:05:38 AM EDT by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:06:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 11:17:04 AM EDT by AvengeR15]

What in holy hell is the guy in the middle carrying? It doesn't look like an AR to me.

Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:07:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MT_Pockets:
cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51371127.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1E6E0F0B7676EE9­94C7757C85AE85A779B

Okay is there some code that says they have to wear the vests? It looks like a very tough job but I think I would try to blend in more than "dress the part"... But if you blend in to well would that cause other problems????

Anyone have any ideas on this?


It simply says: "Don't fuck around here or you will die right quick."
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:12:07 AM EDT
At first glimpse...I thought I was looking at US soldiers.......they sure seem quite together now.

Who trains them? I notice a difference in tactics from Iraqi National Guard units, and Local Police.

I remember seeing some being trained in Jordan/Egypt....but not sure which force is trained well.

Anyhow.....can see the strong US influence in that shot!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:15:04 AM EDT


Do you think that he can get us some DAEWOO parts?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:20:53 AM EDT


Keep that pic handy, the next time some Leftist screeches about Iraqis hating / fearing American troops - these two guys are completely non-chalant.

And love the Iraqi National Guard pics. Rock-on.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:30:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:37:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Ever tried carrying spare mags in an Obi Wan Kenobi robe?


Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:43:55 AM EDT
The guy in the first African pic with the "Police" vest on is also holding a SA R5...both almost certainly stolen from the SAPS! (That is almost certainly an SAPS vest)
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:46:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MT_Pockets:


Okay is there some code that says they have to wear the vests? It looks like a very tough job but I think I would try to blend in more than "dress the part"... But if you blend in to well would that cause other problems????

Anyone have any ideas on this?

BTW thanks Lumpy.

MT




Looks like theyre wearing 511 vests. Theyre full of usefull pockets that allow for storage of all the good thing an highspeed operator needs. Plus theyre not "tactical" looking and a vest is not as hot as a backpack/pouch setup.



Originally Posted By AvengeR15:

What in holy hell is the guy in the middle carrying? It doesn't look like an AR to me.




Looks like an AR with an ELCAN thats got a desert camo paintjob. Look at the front sight post infront of his right knee and the mag well near his hip on the right. Its just blended in with his desert camo bdu's. Funny how camo does that.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:46:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:



us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040929/i/r2845270125.jpg

Afghan militia wait to hand over their weapons in Kabul on September 29, 2004 during a disarmament program backed by the United Nations (news - web sites). The program aims to reach 100,000 militia across the country over two years. Photo by Desmond Boylan/Reuters


Ummmm.......




Trigger FINGER??
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:49:15 AM EDT



Be it through training and willingness to work, I'll give credit where credit is due. These guys are looking better every day... and their instructors need a pat on the back


- BG
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:52:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ikor:
The guy in the first African pic with the "Police" vest on is also holding a SA R5...both almost certainly stolen from the SAPS! (That is almost certainly an SAPS vest)



Disagree. He's holding an AKM. You may think that a distant tree looks like the wavy Galil/R4 cary handle.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:52:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MisterSuzuki:
At first glimpse...I thought I was looking at US soldiers.......they sure seem quite together now.

Who trains them? I notice a difference in tactics from Iraqi National Guard units, and Local Police.

I remember seeing some being trained in Jordan/Egypt....but not sure which force is trained well.

Anyhow.....can see the strong US influence in that shot!us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040929/capt.bag10809290940.iraq_bag108.jpg



I thought the same thing. Looks like some of them have/getting their shit together.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:57:14 AM EDT
Nice
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:59:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SkiandShoot:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:



us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040929/i/r2845270125.jpg
us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040929/i/r2627855651.jpg
Afghan militia wait to hand over their weapons in Kabul on September 29, 2004 during a disarmament program backed by the United Nations (news - web sites). The program aims to reach 100,000 militia across the country over two years. Photo by Desmond Boylan/Reuters


Ummmm.......




Trigger FINGER??



At least his safety is on.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:01:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MT_Pockets:

Okay is there some code that says they have to wear the vests? It looks like a very tough job but I think I would try to blend in more than "dress the part"... But if you blend in to well would that cause other problems????

Anyone have any ideas on this?

BTW thanks Lumpy.

MT



A friend of mine guarded Bremer for a few months....they wear the vest for a few reasons-
1-ID. it gives them a uniform appearence so they know each other if things get very bad.
2-to carry shit. If you look you'll see that they are wearing basic chest rigs, not LBE's or LBV's
3-it's kind of a status thing to wear a 5.11 vest among those types.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:03:33 PM EDT
Hey appreciate the replies...they made me laugh and think.

I guess you never know how long you could get pinned down for...I have never been in a situation close to what these vest wearing operators are into.

If I was there I would be easy to spot too...."There he is! The one with the wheelbarrow loaded with spare mags and wrinkled Obi Wan Kenobi robe!"

MT
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:14:23 PM EDT
great pics thanks.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:21:33 PM EDT


Chinese Police...UN helmets.....and all this time, I thought i couldn't possibly think any less of the UN.

Great pics as usual.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:26:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By ikor:
The guy in the first African pic with the "Police" vest on is also holding a SA R5...both almost certainly stolen from the SAPS! (That is almost certainly an SAPS vest)



Disagree. He's holding an AKM. You may think that a distant tree looks like the wavy Galil/R4 cary handle.



Respectfully disagree DriftPunch...look at the pin in the rear of handguard and look hard at the flash suppressor...that's a R5 / Galil or at least I believe it is. The vest lends authenticity to this belief...when the fuck did the guys in Niger start buying "Police" body armor?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:32:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:35:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040929/capt.xhg10309290722.china_haiti_xhg103.jpg

Chinese Police...UN helmets.....and all this time, I thought i couldn't possibly think any less of the UN.

Great pics as usual.




Chinese....UN helmets.....1911/highpower pistol....
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:35:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AvengeR15:

What in holy hell is the guy in the middle carrying? It doesn't look like an AR to me.




Looks like an AR with a grenade launcher and an Elcan scope to me . . .
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:46:48 PM EDT
Ah ha! Notorious BIG isn't dead! He's in Niger!



Link Posted: 9/29/2004 1:29:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Quien:

Is there supposed to be a...uh...hole in the center of the barrel? What am I missing?



He's got a "shoot-through" muzzle cap/protector." Keeps the sand out...



That or a small black balloon, works equally as well.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 1:36:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey:
Ah ha! Notorious BIG isn't dead! He's in Niger!



us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040929/i/r1604451951.jpg



LMAO!!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:00:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:06:32 PM EDT
Great pics Lumpy........thanks!!!!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:13:42 PM EDT
Great pic's again.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:16:09 PM EDT
Thanks Lumpy. Great pictures as usual!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:22:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 11:24:09 PM EDT by Winston_Wolf]
... " OK, the ice-chest is in the boat right? Check! Skis? Check! Suntan lotion? Check!

... Alright then, Hamid back her down the ramp, watch your six!"

Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:25:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 12:22:17 AM EDT
BTT for great pics by Lumpy as usual

LOL @ Winston Wolf, took me a minute to figure out WTF you were talking about

Also did a double take on the Iraqi soldiers, almost a mirror image of an American squad with older camo and AK's, rather than the "Point the AK anywhere and shoot" methods they used to use, cool to see they're making progress.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 12:29:38 AM EDT
those Iraqi troops are pretty fuckin high speed.

thanks lumpy.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 12:36:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M4-CQBR:

Originally Posted By AvengeR15:
cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51371123.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1E17DC5A8E94BCA­2197757C85AE85A779B
What in holy hell is the guy in the middle carrying? It doesn't look like an AR to me.




Looks like an AR with a grenade launcher and an Elcan scope to me . . .


I agree, come on guys look at the stock, Galil?
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 1:21:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2004 1:23:23 AM EDT by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 1:26:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LHD:

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040929/capt.xhg10309290722.china_haiti_xhg103.jpg

Chinese Police...UN helmets.....and all this time, I thought i couldn't possibly think any less of the UN.

Great pics as usual.




Chinese....UN helmets.....1911/highpower pistol....



SIGs? Looking at the curve to the rear of the slide.
Link Posted: 9/30/2004 4:52:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TimJ:

Originally Posted By MT_Pockets:

Okay is there some code that says they have to wear the vests? It looks like a very tough job but I think I would try to blend in more than "dress the part"... But if you blend in to well would that cause other problems????

Anyone have any ideas on this?

BTW thanks Lumpy.

MT



A friend of mine guarded Bremer for a few months....they wear the vest for a few reasons-
1-ID. it gives them a uniform appearence so they know each other if things get very bad.
2-to carry shit. If you look you'll see that they are wearing basic chest rigs, not LBE's or LBV's
3-it's kind of a status thing to wear a 5.11 vest among those types.



Mainly because they can carry a whole lot of crap in those vests. My 5.11 vest can weigh as much as 25 pounds loaded properly. Spare mags, Com gear, lights, spare batteries and bulbs for lights, possibly a GPS, important documents, maps....

They have to pack a whole lot of crap for just day to day life over there. The 5.11 vest is a great way to do that. The downside is that the 5.11 stuff is now becoming more and more recognized, and if one wears it a lot in the civvy world (like I do) then one can end up looking like one of those BW contractors pretty easy. This can be a bad thing if you are packing heat and don't want anyone to know...
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