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Posted: 10/12/2004 11:59:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:01:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:04:04 PM EST
Some good ones, Lumpy. Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:06:59 PM EST
Great pics, Lumpy! I like the BMW tattoo on the Spanish Legionaire.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:07:39 PM EST
good stuff
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:09:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Anthony Jankowiak, 24, of Pontiac, Mich., a member of B Troop, 1st Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment, rests while taking inventory on his Stryker brigade's equipment at Forward Operating Base Merez, in Mosul, Iraq, on Sunday. M. Scott Mahaskey / Military Times staff




This is just like being back home for him!
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:35:22 PM EST
Great as always Lumpy.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:42:44 PM EST
Boy, those M-14s look good!
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:54:02 PM EST




Same cap, same belting, same uniform, almost seventy years later. Interesting.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 12:56:26 PM EST



BMW tattoo?
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:21:30 PM EST
The guys from East Timor may want to rethink that Salute style...nazi whores
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:30:45 PM EST



Where do they keep teh white flags?
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:34:18 PM EST
cool, thanks for sharing.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:34:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2004 1:35:53 PM EST by Jm03]



M-14 With KAC RAS!

SWEET!

kILL EM aLL
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:49:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 1:54:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:


www.edmarimba.co.uk/capa/images/spanish2.gif

Same cap, same belting, same uniform, almost seventy years later. Interesting.





Ah yes, the early 20th Centry photo "Death of a Loyalist Soldier." Has it ever been determined whether the pic was real or staged (look at the brain matter (or scalp) flying off the top of his head)
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 3:55:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2004 3:58:42 PM EST by 95thFoot]

Originally Posted By JPPJ:

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:


www.edmarimba.co.uk/capa/images/spanish2.gif

Same cap, same belting, same uniform, almost seventy years later. Interesting.





Ah yes, the early 20th Centry photo "Death of a Loyalist Soldier." Has it ever been determined whether the pic was real or staged (look at the brain matter (or scalp) flying off the top of his head)



The pic was real. The matter on the top of the man's head is the swinging tassel at the front of his forage cap as he goes down. The photographer Robert Capa heard the shot, turned around and took the shot as the soldier fell, already dead.

Or is it a pic of a man falling down?

The pic's title is "muerte de un miliciano", and was taken in 1936.

www.iphf.org/inductees/rcapa.html


"He....traveled to Spain, where....Capa took one of his most famous photographs, Death of a Loyalist Soldier. For the first time in history a man, at the absolute moment of death, who had just been hit by a bullet was caught on film. The photograph impacted the public more than any war photograph in history. Based on this image, Capa developed his philosophy, 'if your pictures aren’t good enough, you aren’t close enough'. "


Others have differing views:

astro.umsystem.edu/apml/ARCHIVES/SEP98/msg00260.html

"If it was Capa's image you referred to, it was called "Death of a
Loyalist Soldier", and there was some controversy behind it. The soldier
later tuned up in another negative from that same roll."



No source for his assertion given.

www.zonezero.com/cgi-bin/WebX?14@153.xTnOabbAnmy.0@.ee6b2ce/15

"Fakery in photography has existed as long as the medium itself. As soon as photographers learned to make double-exposures, photographs of "ghosts" appeared. During the first world war, crude paste-ups were accepted as believable propaganda images. So-called photojournalists have frequently been caught with photographs which they posed or set-up for greater dramatic effect. Sometimes photographs will appear to show something which is only in the eye of the beholder such as Capa's famous photograph "Death of a Loyalist Soldier". Some claim that photograph depicts only a soldier falling during manouevers, although it is easy to read another story into the image.

My conclusion is that the camera doesn't lie, only photographers and editors can do that. "



And another interpretation:

commfaculty.fullerton.edu/lester/writings/manipulations2.html

"....Robert Capa's "Death of a Loyalist Soldier" and H.S. Wong's image of a baby crying at the Shanghai train station were published in LIFE, with many believing they were too unusual to be real (the former was, the latter not);...."



Makes me wonder what I'm seeing in the news nowadays.

Link Posted: 10/12/2004 4:00:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51462762.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=8F1FB019F45BEFF45680C9A138DFE5B2A9C30E9B9B114­CE8




Unloaded weapons?



And thank God they are!
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 4:08:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 4:12:31 PM EST
In the third picture depicting an italian soldier what is he armed with? I believe that is #17 from top In the picture of the French Soldier standing next to a soldier in Desert Camo (french also?) what is the man in teh desert fatigues carrying? And Finally what are the Spanish Legionaires armed with? Thanks
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 4:18:33 PM EST
Lumpy, do you have a hi-res pic of the M-14s being inspected?

That is an awesome photo.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:20:49 PM EST
The French soldier is armed with a FAMAS bullpup while the German in the desert camo has a G36. The Spanish Legionaires are also carrying G36's.



Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
In the third picture depicting an italian soldier what is he armed with? I believe that is #17 from top In the picture of the French Soldier standing next to a soldier in Desert Camo (french also?) what is the man in teh desert fatigues carrying? And Finally what are the Spanish Legionaires armed with? Thanks

Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:21:51 PM EST
I thought that the press was restricted from printing personal information (such as name and hometown) of soldiers during wartime? Doesn't this expose soldiers families to any number of dangerous possibilities, particulalrly if there's a highly motivated BG nearby?
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:28:50 PM EST
This would make a good shoe ad.

Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:33:20 PM EST
I thought those might be G36s but what the hell is that I talian armed with? and where are the sights?
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:45:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:52:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By RAMBOSKY:
This would make a good shoe ad.




But the guns underneath them- these are the guns Sadr's militia were using to kill GIs? I doubt it- this is old, beat-up crap. I don't believe for one minute they are giving up the good stuff......BOHICA....
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:53:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By RAMBOSKY:
This would make a good shoe ad.

cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51471555.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=8F1FB019F45BEFF4FC99DDC2B38579F3A9C30E9B9B114­CE8



John Kerry Light Pennyloafers(R)
"For when I'm not wearing flip-flops."
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 5:56:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sturmwehr:

Originally Posted By RAMBOSKY:
This would make a good shoe ad.

cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51471555.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=8F1FB019F45BEFF4FC99DDC2B38579F3A9C30E9B9B114­CE8



John Kerry Light Pennyloafers(R)
"For when I'm not wearing flip-flops."



The style is utterly....disarming....
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