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Posted: 1/15/2015 5:10:12 PM EST
McQuestion's family said they hope sharing her story will help prevent other deaths from flu-related sepsis.

"If this can help just one family avoid this, then it's not in vain," McQuestion's mother said. "She loved her job. She was so happy. It's just heartbreaking to know what could have been for her."


Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:19:14 PM EST
That sucks. Pretty girl.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:19:44 PM EST
Jesus.

That's crazy.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:22:10 PM EST
Very scary. That could have happened to anyone. Cute girl too.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:23:21 PM EST
Savage says it's because she got the flu shot
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:24:08 PM EST
sad situation, prayers for family.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:26:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
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Flu shot doesn't work this year. Every flu positive patient in need of an ICU stay this year has had a flu shot already.

Sad to hear about the young lady though. Some people have some crazy reactions.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:32:34 PM EST
Poor girl.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:36:28 PM EST
That's shitty.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:37:14 PM EST
Scary shit.

I was in the ICU New Years Eve 2013 with Menigitis and BOTH Flu A & B.


Took 8 EMTs and two LARGE sherrifs to remove me from my house as i was (apparently) acting like a caged animal.


They did a spinal tap to confirm the meningitis. Put me in a medical coma. I had about 7 ivs in me with some serious antibiotics being pumped in. I was also intubated.

After i came out of the coma i had lost 30 pounds in 7 days.

Infectious diseases doctor who saved my life came and shook my hand and said they almost lost me. Twice.

Took me a week and a half of rehab to walk again normally.

I am better but still have some side effects from it.

Not fun.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:37:52 PM EST
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Doc friend tells me there have be 26 flu-deaths here locally. Some were kids.

I'm the only one in my family to NOT get it this year, I'm also the only one with a flu shot. Had 9 relatives down with it at one time to include the wife. EVERYONE caught it from my aunt within just a couple of days over Christmas. She got it from an ER visit for a broken foot. Scary as hell to see.
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Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Scary shit.

I was in the ICU New Years Eve 2013 with Menigitis and BOTH Flu A & B.


Took 8 EMTs and two LARGE sherrifs to remove me from my house as i was (apparently) acting like a caged animal.


They did a spinal tap to confirm the meningitis. Put me in a medical coma. I had about 7 ivs in me with some serious antibiotics being pumped in. I was also intubated.

After i came out of the coma i had lost 30 pounds in 7 days.

Infectious diseases doctor who saved my life came and shook my hand and said they almost lost me. Twice.

Took me a week and a half of rehab to walk again normally.

I am better but still have some side effects from it.

Not fun.
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Holy fuck dude... Glad you made it.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:40:01 PM EST
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Savage is a brain-dead moron.
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Originally Posted By buckmaw:

Holy fuck dude... Glad you made it.
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Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Scary shit.

I was in the ICU New Years Eve 2013 with Menigitis and BOTH Flu A & B.


Took 8 EMTs and two LARGE sherrifs to remove me from my house as i was (apparently) acting like a caged animal.


They did a spinal tap to confirm the meningitis. Put me in a medical coma. I had about 7 ivs in me with some serious antibiotics being pumped in. I was also intubated.

After i came out of the coma i had lost 30 pounds in 7 days.

Infectious diseases doctor who saved my life came and shook my hand and said they almost lost me. Twice.

Took me a week and a half of rehab to walk again normally.

I am better but still have some side effects from it.

Not fun.

Holy fuck dude... Glad you made it.


Thanks.

It was close there for a while.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:45:48 PM EST
Something similar happened to my MIL. She arrived here on Friday, went to a high school football game with us and went to the car, said she was cold. Retired early Sunday night. Monday I took her to the doc inna box which sent her directly to the hospital. Pseudomonas. Died Wednesday.

5 yo here recently bit by a brown recluse. Died a few days later.


With all the advances in medicine your number can still come up unexpectedly.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 5:46:52 PM EST
Sometimes infections go sideways really fast. You just never know. I know a lady who got "flesh eating bacteria" from a scratch to her midsection. She lost most of the flesh from her collar bone area to her waist and spent about a month in an induced coma while the doctors did everything they could to contain the infection and keep her organs functioning. Mortality really sucks sometimes.
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Originally Posted By Silverbulletz06:

Flu shot doesn't work this year. Every flu positive patient in need of an ICU stay this year has had a flu shot already.

Sad to hear about the young lady though. Some people have some crazy reactions.
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Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
Savage says it's because she got the flu shot

Flu shot doesn't work this year. Every flu positive patient in need of an ICU stay this year has had a flu shot already.

Sad to hear about the young lady though. Some people have some crazy reactions.


I've had documented vaccine-indifferent influenza - the first case one bad flu season. It was just about the sickest I ever remember being. It was 2 days before I even felt like sitting up enough to watch TV or use a tablet. The health system's chief medical officer let me know I'd been discussed in infection/public health rounds.

Real flu can be scary because it can knock off otherwise healthy young people. Glad you made it, bulldog.

Also clarification on the article: she wasn't a physician radiologist. She was a tech.

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Originally Posted By Shane333:
Sometimes infections go sideways really fast. You just never know. I know a lady who got "flesh eating bacteria" from a scratch to her midsection. She lost most of the flesh from her collar bone area to her waist and spent about a month in an induced coma while the doctors did everything they could to contain the infection and keep her organs functioning. Mortality really sucks sometimes.
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Worked a suspicious death of a 55 YO male, died of sepsis after eating oysters. They contained flesh eating bacteria and he was a diabetic. Went from dinner to dead in about 5 hours. His entire abdomen was turned into bloody goo. The public health guys got really excitable over that one.
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Originally Posted By buckmaw:

Holy fuck dude... Glad you made it.
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Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Scary shit.

I was in the ICU New Years Eve 2013 with Menigitis and BOTH Flu A & B.


Took 8 EMTs and two LARGE sherrifs to remove me from my house as i was (apparently) acting like a caged animal.


They did a spinal tap to confirm the meningitis. Put me in a medical coma. I had about 7 ivs in me with some serious antibiotics being pumped in. I was also intubated.

After i came out of the coma i had lost 30 pounds in 7 days.

Infectious diseases doctor who saved my life came and shook my hand and said they almost lost me. Twice.

Took me a week and a half of rehab to walk again normally.

I am better but still have some side effects from it.

Not fun.

Holy fuck dude... Glad you made it.


+1

Wow.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:13:53 PM EST
"Katie McQuestion, a 26-year-old radiologist from Kenosha, Wisconsin, got a flu shot to comply with hospital policy and had no underlying medical conditions, but she caught the flu and developed a serious complication from it: sepsis. She died on Jan. 2."



Fuck that noise. No job is worth dying for.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:26:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By PAspeedmaster:
McQuestion's family said they hope sharing her story will help prevent other deaths from flu-related sepsis.

"If this can help just one family avoid this, then it's not in vain," McQuestion's mother said.
"She loved her job. She was so happy. It's just heartbreaking to know what could have been for her."
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So are they saying that she received the live attenuated influenza vaccine, became ill with viral influenza despite a presumably healthy immune system, and died from cytokine storm?

Or that she became septic from a superimposed bacterial pneumonia after she became ill with viral influenza from the vaccine?



Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:29:29 PM EST
Both of my kids had it. It's some bad stuff, and I can see how it could easily get out of hand. I thought my son was in for a trip to the hospital, but Tamiflu works!

Very sad about the girl.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:31:31 PM EST
Poor thing that's really unfortunate.
May she rest in Peace.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:32:03 PM EST
I had sepsis a couple years ago , it really sucked.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:32:33 PM EST
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So are they saying that she received the live attenuated influenza vaccine, became ill with viral influenza despite a presumably healthy immune system, and died from cytokine storm?

Or that she became septic from a superimposed bacterial pneumonia after she became ill with viral influenza from the vaccine?



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McQuestion's family said they hope sharing her story will help prevent other deaths from flu-related sepsis.

"If this can help just one family avoid this, then it's not in vain," McQuestion's mother said.
"She loved her job. She was so happy. It's just heartbreaking to know what could have been for her."


So are they saying that she received the live attenuated influenza vaccine, became ill with viral influenza despite a presumably healthy immune system, and died from cytokine storm?

Or that she became septic from a superimposed bacterial pneumonia after she became ill with viral influenza from the vaccine?





This years vaccine does not work
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:34:48 PM EST
that is sad
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:37:53 PM EST
I ain't leaving the fucking house.

I'm a near OCD hand washer too.

Any time I come back from shopping etc. right to the sink.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:43:04 PM EST
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"Katie McQuestion, a 26-year-old radiologist from Kenosha, Wisconsin, got a flu shot to comply with hospital policy and had no underlying medical conditions, but she caught the flu and developed a serious complication from it: sepsis. She died on Jan. 2."



Fuck that noise. No job is worth dying for.
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And it's all for marketing. A hand washing campaign for employees would do more good.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:46:28 PM EST
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.
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Originally Posted By cavgunner:
I ain't leaving the fucking house.

I'm a near OCD hand washer too.

Any time I come back from shopping etc. right to the sink.
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Originally Posted By cavgunner:
I ain't leaving the fucking house.

I'm a near OCD hand washer too.

Any time I come back from shopping etc. right to the sink.


Influenza is transmitted three ways including airborne:

Influenza can be spread in three main ways: by direct transmission (when an infected person sneezes mucus directly into the eyes, nose or mouth of another person); the airborne route (when someone inhales the aerosols produced by an infected person coughing, sneezing or spitting) and through hand-to-eye, hand-to-nose, or hand-to-mouth transmission, either from contaminated surfaces or from direct personal contact such as a hand-shake.
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What a shame.



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Link Posted: 1/15/2015 6:58:08 PM EST
I have not gotten it yet this year but I am sure it is coming. It didn't hit me until February last year either.
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Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.
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You don't take antibiotics for the flu. Have a Twinkie.
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You don't take antibiotics for the flu. Have a Twinkie.
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Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.



You don't take antibiotics for the flu. Have a Twinkie.


I understand a bit about how a virus propagates John but said professor's doctor put him on antibiotics none the less - and no, they are NOT helping.

Watch out driving in that Austin traffic down there. I loved living in Austin but that traffic. Wow.
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Worked a suspicious death of a 55 YO male, died of sepsis after eating oysters. They contained flesh eating bacteria and he was a diabetic. Went from dinner to dead in about 5 hours. His entire abdomen was turned into bloody goo. The public health guys got really excitable over that one.
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and here I thought hepatitis was the risk. I had a dozen Christmas day.
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Originally Posted By John-in-austin:


You don't take antibiotics for the flu. Have a Twinkie.
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Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.


You don't take antibiotics for the flu. Have a Twinkie.


The vast majority of patients who die from influenza do so from the secondary bacterial infection . . . which responds to antibiotics.

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Weiner says a lot of stupid things.
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Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.
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Did you tell him that his doctor is a fucking retard?
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 7:23:33 PM EST
That's sad.
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Did you tell him that his doctor is a fucking retard?
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Originally Posted By JBski:
Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.


Did you tell him that his doctor is a fucking retard?


Viral infection -----> Superimposed bacterial infection -----> Antibiotics

It's not your fault. We take in-depth classes in virology, microbiology, immunology, etc so it's simply because you aren't educated on the subject. It also doesn't help that reporters are ignorant on virtually any technical topic and therefore do little to educate the public. Heck, they can't even get the facts straight.

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Did you tell him that his doctor is a fucking retard?
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Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.


Did you tell him that his doctor is a fucking retard?

Not necessarily. While antibiotics won't do shit against the flu virus, they can kick the shit out of other things like pneumonia...which is the kind of thing that leads to sepsis...which is what lead to the story starting this thread.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 7:30:26 PM EST
It's almost inconceivable that in 2015 a 26 year old healthy American could go from well to dead in 5 days from the flu or whatever infection.
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The vast majority of patients who die from influenza do so from the secondary bacterial infection . . . which responds to antibiotics.

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Originally Posted By John-in-austin:
Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.


You don't take antibiotics for the flu. Have a Twinkie.


The vast majority of patients who die from influenza do so from the secondary bacterial infection . . . which responds to antibiotics.



Tanker loads of vasopressors and resuscitation fluids help, too. I still remember when we thought Xigris was going to revolutionize sepsis.


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Tanker loads of vasopressors and resuscitation fluids help, too. I still remember when we thought Xigris was going to revolutionize sepsis.
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Originally Posted By John-in-austin:
Originally Posted By centurion:
OP, I sat in a faculty meeting yesterday evening and one of the other professors came in looking "white as a sheet" and coughing.

He told me he has had the flu for more than three weeks and cannot shake it.

He has taken two different courses of antibiotics under his doctor's guidance.

He also got the flu after taking the free flu shot that the university offered faculty and students.

I NEVER take the flu shots even though I am older now.

I do take probiotics and other health supplements and I avoid white sugar and junk food.

So far, I have been sick one day in the last four years.

I do have an occasional German beer or glass of German white wine though - nobody's perfect.


You don't take antibiotics for the flu. Have a Twinkie.


The vast majority of patients who die from influenza do so from the secondary bacterial infection . . . which responds to antibiotics.



Tanker loads of vasopressors and resuscitation fluids help, too. I still remember when we thought Xigris was going to revolutionize sepsis.
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Yeah, a well-staffed, well-stocked ICU helps.

Link Posted: 1/15/2015 7:46:24 PM EST
4 aces and a kicker (dbl/dbl bonus poker) down the tubes.
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Link Posted: 1/15/2015 7:53:25 PM EST
My dad died from pneumonia caused by the flu. Only 52. It can happen.
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Savage is a brain-dead moron.
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Savage says it's because she got the flu shot



Savage is a brain-dead moron.


Yes, but he might not be this time. There is a segment of the population that have negative reactions to vaccines...
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 8:03:38 PM EST
"We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond who
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye"

How do those newscasters stay all happy when reporting this stuff? I had the sound off, but she could have been telling about her new puppy and looked the same.
Link Posted: 1/15/2015 8:07:44 PM EST
We just had two patients who were on ECMO because of the flu, it definitely ain't no joke.
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