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Posted: 12/8/2015 10:33:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/9/2015 11:48:23 AM EDT by Aimless]
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:34:52 AM EDT
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In to see what happens...
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[Last Edit: 12/8/2015 10:37:57 AM EDT by MI_FZ6]
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Have any of your clients been contacted by BATF ?
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[Last Edit: 12/8/2015 10:37:16 AM EDT by fighter443]


Beat....
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Well.. I'd say what i think, but i'm already on thin ice


Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:39:14 AM EDT

In. I didn't think they were allowed to do that but I can't say I am really surprised.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:39:35 AM EDT
Awesome. Let the raiding begin.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:40:01 AM EDT
Maybe this will convince the holdouts that the form 4473 is a gun registry.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:40:52 AM EDT
In on one

FNY
FBHO
FHRC
FJAE (F*** Just About Everyone)
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:41:04 AM EDT
But the 4473 isn't registration.


Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:42:00 AM EDT
They will find out just how common it is for people to lose guns they once owned.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:42:02 AM EDT
There was a lot of chatter this could happen in CT since 90% of gun owners
refused to register their AR's

As far as I know it only happened to one person who was charged with a felony

Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:42:17 AM EDT
In before the "if you need to bury them, you need to dig them up" crowd from New York
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:42:31 AM EDT
So if they contact you, do you call yourself?

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[Last Edit: 12/8/2015 10:45:40 AM EDT by Surveyor75]
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What you did there I see it. Most won't understand.

ETA: Oh and F#@%'EM
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:


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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
The New York State Police have launched an investigation into alleged SAFE Act violations and appear to have possession or copies of 4473s showing who purchased firearms. Consider speaking with a lawyer if contacted.


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Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:42:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2015 10:43:28 AM EDT by Medicfrost]
Do we need to start setting up SAFE houses?
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Originally Posted By cone256:
In on one

FNY
FBHO
FHRC
FJAE (F*** Just About Everyone)
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Originally Posted By FiremanFrank:

In. I didn't think they were allowed to do that but I can't say I am really surprised.
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Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:46:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2015 10:46:21 AM EDT by Linkon]
Originally Posted By Aimless:
The New York State Police have launched an investigation into alleged SAFE Act violations and appear to have possession or copies of 4473s showing who purchased firearms. Consider speaking with a lawyer if contacted.
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I gave all that shit to my lawyer to turn in and I don't know WTF he did with it.

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Troopers better take a minute and think about this one.

Lots of anti SAFE sentiment across the state.
They live amongst these communities, their children go to school in these communities
Widespread JBT behavior could cause a real shitstorm.

I better hurry up and schedule a teeth cleaning.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:48:27 AM EDT
What a fucking shit sandwich.
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That"s those extremely pro-2A, freedom loving LEOs I'm always hearing about on here.
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Uhhh.


The local mosque had a no-questions-asked firearms buyback program to promote peace.

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What a crock of shit.

America, the land of the free, except for certain states.
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Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode:
There was a lot of chatter this could happen in CT since 90% of gun owners
refused to register their AR's

As far as I know it only happened to one person who was charged with a felony

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in a "free" country that is 1 to many.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:55:28 AM EDT
Holy schnikeys, I am so glad I am out of there...tagging for interest, and more info....
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Appears to be local and upstate but I don't know for sure
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Originally Posted By mag162:
Originally Posted By 41magluva:
Troopers better take a minute and think about this one.

Lots of anti SAFE sentiment across the state.
They live amongst these communities, their children go to school in these communities
Widespread JBT behavior could cause a real shitstorm.

I better hurry up and schedule a teeth cleaning.

I cant see the regular purple ties getting involved in this, The assholes at the GIU downstate, absolutely
We are approaching interesting times in NY if this is true, lets see what happens next
Appears to be local and upstate but I don't know for sure


Interesting.

I know a few shops that sold piles, mountains even ,of lowers and completes, and still do.

How much money is this project going to waste?
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:58:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
Maybe this will convince the holdouts that the form 4473 is a gun registry.
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What point or how long before we hear about raiders going into LGS's and just stealing the logs and 4473's?
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 10:59:10 AM EDT
Aimless, do you know if the state police are "fishing" and casting a wide net or are there specific targets and information they are using?
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I'm only an hour away from the western border of NY.
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Do we need to start setting up SAFE houses?

I'm only an hour away from the western border of NY.


And I can take all your unSAFE guns.
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Originally Posted By FiremanFrank:

In. I didn't think they were allowed to do that but I can't say I am really surprised.


I know a guy who works for a big gun store in Indiana. He said once a week a cute little female BATF agent stops by the shop and goes through the 4473's. She can't make photo copies but she can go through them and make notes in her notepad.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 11:00:05 AM EDT
Good thing over 90% of AR owners in NY threw their weapons away after the SAFE Act passed because it wasn't worth the hassle of owning one.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 11:00:14 AM EDT
Are the FFL's obligated to hand over the 4473 info to the state?

I thought that info was for federal regulations.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 11:00:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 11:02:24 AM EDT
Relax, not going to be any widespread blanket sweeps. Must be in rgerads to a particular investigation. FWIW there is no such thing as a "SafeAct" investigation. Probably somebody screwed up irrespective of the SafeAct or got dimed by his ex.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 11:03:38 AM EDT
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4473s are a loosely coupled distributed database with a 20 year retention period. Disaster recovery plan (disaster being FFL retirement or other exit from the business) is to ship the 4473s offsite to the ATF managed data repository.

ATF agents are bots with read only access.
Link Posted: 12/8/2015 11:03:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Natty_Bumppo:
Relax, not going to be any widespread blanket sweeps. Must be in rgerads to a particular investigation. FWIW there is no such thing as a "SafeAct" investigation. Probably somebody screwed up irrespective of the SafeAct or got dimed by his ex.
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Relax, nothing to see here.
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