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Posted: 8/19/2004 3:42:01 AM EST
What a FUCKING TOOL.


www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--rifleban0818aug18,0,1071776.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire

New York Rep. Maloney calls for ban on .50-caliber sniper rifles

By SAM DOLNICK
Associated Press Writer

August 18, 2004, 4:28 PM EDT

NEW YORK -- New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney called for a federal ban of .50-caliber anti-armor sniper rifles, which can be legally bought and are "obvious weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a terrorist."

"This weapon was not built for hobbies or marksmanship but for military purposes," she said at a news conference Wednesday.

The rifles can pierce armor and destroy aircraft, said Maloney, chair of the House Democratic Caucus Task Force on Homeland Security.

A senior policy analyst with the Washington, D.C.-based Violence Policy Center, Tom Diaz, joined Maloney and called the rifles "ideal tools for terrorists."

"It's not an ordinary rifle, it's a weapon of war," said Diaz, the author of several studies analyzing sniper rifles.

The .50-caliber rifles are "as easy to purchase as a regular rifle and even easier than a handgun" and should be banned or at least highly regulated, said Maloney, who serves Manhattan and Queens.

Under federal law, no one under 21 can legally buy a handgun, but an 18-year-old who passes a security check can buy a .50-caliber rifle, Maloney said.

Maloney and Virginia Rep. James Moran have sponsored a bill in the House to ban .50-caliber rifles. The rifles are not covered by the federal assault weapons ban, which expires Sept. 13.

Calling the rifles "a serious danger to civilian airplanes and chemical factories," Maloney warned of catastrophe if terrorists used the weapons in the United States.

The congresswoman said al-Qaida already has a cache of the rifles, pointing to the 2001 testimony of a government witness, Essam al-Ridi, who said he shipped 25 .50-caliber sniper rifles to al-Qaida in Afghanistan in the late 1980s.

Al-Ridi testified to the rifle sales in Manhattan federal court in February 2001 in connection with the bombings of two American embassies in Africa, Maloney said.

The sniper rifles weigh about 30 pounds and sell for $1,200 to $12,000, Diaz said. They are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and are accurate at distances of more than a mile, he added.

The National Rifle Association disagreed with the congresswoman's portrayal of the weapons.

"The simple fact is that .50-calibers have not been used in crimes," NRA spokesman Andrew Arulandam said. "They are large, cumbersome and expensive firearms. They are widely used by long-range marksmen who engage in competition."
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:44:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
"This weapon was not built for hobbies or marksmanship but for military purposes," she said at a news conference Wednesday.



Pardon me, but didn't the military adopt them AFTER civilians proved their workability as a portable long range firearm.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:47:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
"This weapon was not built for hobbies or marksmanship but for military purposes," she said at a news conference Wednesday.



Pardon me, but didn't the military adopt them AFTER civilians proved their workability as a portable long range firearm.



Please don't go confusing the issue with facts!
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:57:03 AM EST
I just wish someone would propose a ban on stupid people. That would be one piece of legislation I would fully support.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:58:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Calling the rifles "a serious danger to civilian airplanes and chemical factories," Maloney warned of catastrophe if terrorists used the weapons in the United States.



Yes, Officer, I shoot down airplanes with one and blow up chemical factories with my other. I provide air defense for the north east region and I have a connection to NORAD so I know what I'm shooting at. What a fucking tool is right.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:59:25 AM EST
Remember, this is the woman who rose to power by waving the bloody shirts of her husband and son, who were killed by some whacko who ignored the laws she so desperately supports.

That little detail seems to be beyond the capacity of her one neuron to accept....
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:01:09 AM EST
Well you know what they say, "If it moves a democrat wants to tax it, if it moves to fast they want to regulate it and if it stops moving, they want to subsidize it."
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:02:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2004 4:03:10 AM EST by phatmax]
"but an 18-year-old who passes a security check can buy a .50-caliber rifle"

Ummm..... OK.... So you are saying that LEGALLY competent people who are also trusted to drive cars, become police officers, fly a plane, join the military, become a parent, get a government job, operate a crane 50 stories over Manhattan can buy a gun? Oh, dear...the fucking tragedy of it all..

What an absolute dick. The woman kills her own argument in that one statement. She did not even say these things were flooding the streets.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:03:01 AM EST
Grandstanding for the election.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:03:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Remember, this is the woman who rose to power by waving the bloody shirts of her husband and son, who were killed by some whacko who ignored the laws she so desperately supports.

That little detail seems to be beyond the capacity of her one neuron to accept....




Um no it's not that was Carolyn McCarthy
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:03:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2004 4:06:57 AM EST by JCKnife]
Wasn't her name McCarthy? Did she re-marry or something?

ETA: these are two different Carolyns. 4th and 14th districts. I think McCarthy is the one whose husband and son were shot.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:04:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By lonegunman:
Well you know what they say, "If it moves a democrat wants to tax it, if it moves to fast they want to regulate it and if it stops moving, they want to subsidize it."



Didn't RR say that?
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:07:49 AM EST
Funny, I'm not a terrorist, yet I've been wanting a fifty for quite a while now.

Maybe I am a terrorist....
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:11:36 AM EST
Didn't that guy who built a tank out of his tractor prove that the .50bmg was not effective against the local LP tanks?

ktm500
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:19:07 AM EST
Maloney can blow my baloney!
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:25:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I just wish someone would propose a ban on stupid people. That would be one piece of legislation I would fully support.



Yes, every law contains one major flaw, it asks crooks to obey it and they never do. Everyone else just looses a little more freedom.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:26:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Strats:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
"This weapon was not built for hobbies or marksmanship but for military purposes," she said at a news conference Wednesday.



Pardon me, but didn't the military adopt them AFTER civilians proved their workability as a portable long range firearm.



Please don't go confusing the issue with facts!



Or history. Governmental officals love to rewrite history.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:31:19 AM EST
this rifle can ONLY be aimed at chemical factories and airplanes, schools, baby seals and bald eagles.

ban them
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:05:04 AM EST
planes have killed a lot more in terrorist attacks than guns (other than the arab shooting up the Israeli check in desk at LAX has there been a terrorist using a gun in the US?)
lets ban planes
wonder if she'd see the stupidity of her comment if this was pointed out to her?
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:15:37 AM EST
I just sold my Motor Cycle this week and was wonder what to buy. Looks like a .50 might be a good idea.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:24:13 AM EST
I wish I had the money to go buy a .50. Never even seen one around here.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:29:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:34:46 AM EST
It's the same old obvious story...

The leftists aren't concerned with public safety, their only concern is in disarming American citizens. The armed citizen is the final roadblock that they must remove before they can create their leftist utopia. They'll use any excuse and any lie to achieve that goal.

...and we all know it's true.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:37:27 AM EST
I can't take the bullshit anymore!

There has never been a single instance of a .50 caliber rifle being used by a criminal in this country! I think that there has only been one instance, where an IRA terrorist used one to kill a British soldier, once! In the entire history of the world, ONCE!!!!

Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:42:04 AM EST
First thing I did with mine was to shoot it at satellites. Then there was the time the ISS went overhead, missed it by this ------ much!.

Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:46:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2004 10:49:34 AM EST by tcsd1236]
www.house.gov/maloney/

My comment to her via email:

http://www.fcsa.org/

How DARE you say that fifty caliber weapons are not used in marksmanship. Do your homework before you run your mouth and embarass yourself further.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 11:01:49 AM EST
New York Rep. Maloney calls for ban on .50-caliber sniper rifles
Dumb bitch! She got on the hoplophpbic band wagon because of her husband's murder on the LIRR. If one person on that train car where her husband was killed by Colin Ferguson was carrying ( not a chance in NYC), they would have capped his (Ferguson's) ass and put an end to it wicki wicki .
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