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Posted: 3/10/2005 9:32:50 PM EDT
I want a new toy. I've read about all the fun new toys ARFCOMERS have gotten on here. I want a new gun to carry with me all the time. Right now I carry mostly my .45 but it's big and bulky. I want something more petite and easier to conceal.

Any suggestions?

Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:37:12 PM EDT
My Sig 239 is the nicest carry weapon I've ever tried. It's big enough to not be a toy, but still concealable.

Mine is in .40. In over 2500 rounds I have not had ONE single failure of any kind, with any kind of ammo.

It's my carry piece now 90% of the time. Not petite, but certainly easier to conceal than the 1911.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:40:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
I want a new toy. I've read about all the fun new toys ARFCOMERS have gotten on here. I want a new gun to carry with me all the time. Right now I carry mostly my .45 but it's big and bulky. I want something more petite and easier to conceal.

Any suggestions?

Patty



Walther PPK. It's a pretty gun. Smooth draw


And James Bond used to use it

I love my P99
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:41:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:42:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:42:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
Colt 1991A1


tinypic.com/22yq2c



this looks like what I carry? I'm sorry I'm not up on my terminology! Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:47:07 PM EDT
Get a Browning Hi Power. It will feel SO familiar after carrying a 1911, but you'll think it went on a diet because it's smaller and lighter. It's what I carry.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:48:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:50:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
Colt 1991A1


tinypic.com/22yq2c



this looks like what I carry? I'm sorry I'm not up on my terminology! Patty



It's the small version of the 1911. Are you sure you carry the 1991?



Yes, I just checked. Is that the smallest .45 available? I would like something quite a bit smaller. I've considered carrying a .380 but I really like a .45.

Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:51:48 PM EDT
Glock 19
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:53:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:53:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
My Sig 239 is the nicest carry weapon I've ever tried. It's big enough to not be a toy, but still concealable.

Mine is in .40. In over 2500 rounds I have not had ONE single failure of any kind, with any kind of ammo.

It's my carry piece now 90% of the time. Not petite, but certainly easier to conceal than the 1911.



I'll check this out, thank you for the tip. I was at an NRA auction once and they had a .45 about the size of a .380 and I wanted it very much, but was out bidded.

Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:54:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 9:56:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:01:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
Yes, I just checked. Is that the smallest .45 available? I would like something quite a bit smaller. I've considered carrying a .380 but I really like a .45.

Patty



We're going to have to start calling you "Petite Patty".

That's a pretty small .45



Well they have these panty holsers and let's face it you don't want something that big and that COLD in your panties! Patty

*ETA* Wave that is a sexy gun!!
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:03:43 PM EDT
Kel Tec P3AT!!!
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:05:11 PM EDT
[Baby Face Nelson] Any you boys know yer way around a Walther PPK? [/Baby Face Nelson]
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:06:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sonofbp:
look in here.



mine is twice that size. Hang on I'll see if I can get a picture up. Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:07:49 PM EDT
How about one of these?



CW
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:18:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cold_Warrior:
How about one of these?

www.snyderstreasures.com/images/thumbnails/crypto/LiberatorR_small.jpg

CW



I don't think so Tim! Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:21:28 PM EDT
Walther P99. 9mm 16+1 capacity. Pretty thin for fullsize, light weight, and ergonomic.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:24:59 PM EDT
Kahr K40 in stainless.

Sexy, small, accurate. Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman...or something like that.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:26:21 PM EDT
Why do you need a CCW for the kitchen?

Sgatr15
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:27:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:30:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2005 10:32:15 PM EDT by pattymcn]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Why do you need a CCW for the kitchen?

Sgatr15



Too shoot trouser snakes. Patty

*ETA* Egads, did I say that??
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:32:20 PM EDT
Kahr K40 Covert

Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:42:25 PM EDT
I like that! Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:46:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2005 10:51:40 PM EDT by Florg]

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
My Sig 239 is the nicest carry weapon I've ever tried. It's big enough to not be a toy, but still concealable.

Mine is in .40. In over 2500 rounds I have not had ONE single failure of any kind, with any kind of ammo.

It's my carry piece now 90% of the time. Not petite, but certainly easier to conceal than the 1911.



+1 on a Sig 239. Very high quality guns. I carry a Sig 229, a bit larger than a 239.



ETA, I originally bought a Springfield Armory Ultra Compact 1911 as a carry gun. I have so many problems with mine that it would be ridiculous to trust it as a CCW. I've heard the smaller 1911's are usually more finicky.
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:53:26 PM EDT
The .45 at the NRA auction had some new fangled thing to absorb the recoil. I swear it wasn't any bigger than the palm of my hand.

Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:54:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:55:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2005 10:56:12 PM EDT by CFII]

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
The .45 at the NRA auction had some new fangled thing to absorb the recoil. I swear it wasn't any bigger than the palm of my hand.

Patty



Kahr .45?

Link Posted: 3/10/2005 10:58:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CFII:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:
The .45 at the NRA auction had some new fangled thing to absorb the recoil. I swear it wasn't any bigger than the palm of my hand.

Patty



Kahr .45?

kahr.com/images/kp4543.gif



No - it just wasn't that. Hang on. Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 11:00:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CFII:
Kahr K40 Covert






It looked like this except shorter nosed and stubier. It had a cusion where your hand held the grip and "shock" absorbers. It felt very nice in the hand. It was a .45 caliber. Patty
Link Posted: 3/10/2005 11:11:45 PM EDT
If you want the 45 try the sig 245. Great feel, and single stacked for thinness.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 5:55:25 AM EDT
Is there a catalog you can recommend I can look at with pictures so I can pick it out? Patty
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:15:25 AM EDT
Here ya go patty.

Springfield Armory Micro Compact.



3" fully supported barrel

6+1 Mag capacity

and all the 1911 goodness that you love, just smaller.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:16:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DeltaAir423:
Here ya go patty.

Springfield Armory Micro Compact.

www.springfield-armory.com/images/pistols/a1/PX9801L.jpg

3" fully supported barrel

6+1 Mag capacity

and all the 1911 goodness that you love, just smaller.




I'm speechless. Let's just stand back and admire her beauty in silence. Patty
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:22:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By DeltaAir423:
Here ya go patty.

Springfield Armory Micro Compact.

www.springfield-armory.com/images/pistols/a1/PX9801L.jpg

3" fully supported barrel

6+1 Mag capacity

and all the 1911 goodness that you love, just smaller.




I'm speechless. Let's just stand back and admire her beauty in silence. Patty




NOOOOO, PATTTY!!!!!! It's a Springfield.....in Lebonese "Springfield" means " IT'S A TRAP!!!"

+1 however on the Browning High Power or a Khar.....either can be had in 9 mil or 40 cal......both are sugary sweet shooters....

Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:34:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By DeltaAir423:
Here ya go patty.

Springfield Armory Micro Compact.

www.springfield-armory.com/images/pistols/a1/PX9801L.jpg

3" fully supported barrel

6+1 Mag capacity

and all the 1911 goodness that you love, just smaller.




I'm speechless. Let's just stand back and admire her beauty in silence. Patty




NOOOOO, PATTTY!!!!!! It's a Springfield.....in Lebonese "Springfield" means " IT'S A TRAP!!!"

+1 however on the Browning High Power or a Khar.....either can be had in 9 mil or 40 cal......both are sugary sweet shooters....




but it's so cute I want to pinch it! Isn't Springfield just a generic Colt? Does Colt have a similar one? How much do these run? Patty
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:46:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/11/2005 6:47:37 AM EDT by DeltaAir423]

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By DeltaAir423:
Here ya go patty.

Springfield Armory Micro Compact.

www.springfield-armory.com/images/pistols/a1/PX9801L.jpg

3" fully supported barrel

6+1 Mag capacity

and all the 1911 goodness that you love, just smaller.




I'm speechless. Let's just stand back and admire her beauty in silence. Patty




NOOOOO, PATTTY!!!!!! It's a Springfield.....in Lebonese "Springfield" means " IT'S A TRAP!!!"

+1 however on the Browning High Power or a Khar.....either can be had in 9 mil or 40 cal......both are sugary sweet shooters....




but it's so cute I want to pinch it! Isn't Springfield just a generic Colt? Does Colt have a similar one? How much do these run? Patty




1200-1300 NIB. From all the Springfields I have handled, I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up.


Kimber also sports the Ultra Carry II, they claim it's smaller than the Springfield Micro Compact. I don't see a price listed, but they have a dealer locater so you can find out who's a dealer near you.


I almost forgot the pic.



Also it comes in Stainless.


I'm just keeping in the fact that you mentioned that you like your 1911, and these are still .45, allthough the Kimber in Stainless does come in .40 Smith also.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:49:05 AM EDT
I carry an XD-40
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 6:56:33 AM EDT
I do like my 1911. It is very accurate and I'm comfortable with it. I just wish it wasn't so large. I like the .45 caliber too. Patty
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:46:07 AM EDT
Well my suggestions would be valid 1911 .45 options.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 7:47:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
HK P7M8 .



There ya go! My next purchase.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 8:31:16 AM EDT
My wife carries a P7M8, she tried others but found them all wanting. If a guy grabs it he might not know how to operate it right off. Whereas it is probably quicker to use than any other auto if you know how.
Much quicker than a 1911 & much safer too.
I am going to let her try my XD9 subcompact when we have time.
She shoots IDPA with me twice a month.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 8:37:18 AM EDT
Patty, +1 on the Kahr line. My wife carried the original K9, and a when the PM9 came out, she went to that. I haven't owned the .40 or obviously the new .45, but wow! Those things are sweet little shooters! She's had a trigger job done on each of hers...they're like buttah!

And small too...really small...


Link Posted: 3/11/2005 8:43:40 AM EDT
Walther P99 9mm Compact. Sexy looking gun with reliability and it comes in a fairly small package.
Link Posted: 3/11/2005 9:04:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Robbie:
Patty, +1 on the Kahr line. My wife carried the original K9, and a when the PM9 came out, she went to that. I haven't owned the .40 or obviously the new .45, but wow! Those things are sweet little shooters! She's had a trigger job done on each of hers...they're like buttah!

And small too...really small...

tinyurl.com/4gvny



Tee hee the trigger is the biggest thing on it. I could hide that one in my bra. LOL
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:00:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Robbie:
Patty, +1 on the Kahr line. My wife carried the original K9, and a when the PM9 came out, she went to that. I haven't owned the .40 or obviously the new .45, but wow! Those things are sweet little shooters! She's had a trigger job done on each of hers...they're like buttah!

And small too...really small...

tinyurl.com/4gvny



Robbie that is sweet, what caliber is it?
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:03:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 50cal:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
HK P7M8 .



There ya go! My next purchase.



What's the action on this? Am I correct that it has a unique loading mechanism? Patty
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:12:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pattymcn:

Originally Posted By 50cal:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
HK P7M8 .



There ya go! My next purchase.



What's the action on this? Am I correct that it has a unique loading mechanism? Patty




Not so much a unique loading mechanism, the barrel is pinned to the frame similar to the Makarov. What is unique is that you have to squeeze the grip to cock the weapon, also gas is ported from the barrel like most semi auto rifles. It takes about 7-10 lbs to cock it, however it only take 2 lbs of pressure to keep it cocked. The two draw backs I have seen to the system is one, the grip gets very warm over the space of a couple of mags, and the other is that it is very expensive to get worked on. I think NJHP had these, and the cost to refubish their P7's was more than the purchase price of a new one.





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