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Posted: 8/23/2017 6:34:18 PM EDT
Per Milo's FB page:



This is a message circulated to the UC Berkeley community from new Chancellor, Carol Christ. What a difference six months make! Let's hope Berkeley sticks to this commitment to free expression.

From: "Carol T. Christ Chancellor"
Date: August 23, 2017 at 8:48:26 AM PDT
Subject: Free Speech

Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,

This fall, the issue of free speech will once more engage our community in powerful and complex ways. Events in Charlottesville, with their racism, bigotry, violence and mayhem, make the issue of free speech even more tense. The law is very clear; public institutions like UC Berkeley must permit speakers invited in accordance with campus policies to speak, without discrimination in regard to point of view.  The United States has the strongest free speech protections of any liberal democracy; the First Amendment protects even speech that most of us would find hateful, abhorrent and odious, and the courts have consistently upheld these protections.

But the most powerful argument for free speech is not one of legal constraint—that we’re required to allow it—but of value.  The public expression of many sharply divergent points of view is fundamental both to our democracy and to our mission as a university. The philosophical justification underlying free speech, most powerfully articulated by John Stuart Mill in his book On Liberty, rests on two basic assumptions. The first is that truth is of such power that it will always ultimately prevail; any abridgement of argument therefore compromises the opportunity of exchanging error for truth. The second is an extreme skepticism about the right of any authority to determine which opinions are noxious or abhorrent. Once you embark on the path to censorship, you make your own speech vulnerable to it.

Berkeley, as you know, is the home of the Free Speech Movement, where students on the right and students on the left united to fight for the right to advocate political views on campus.  Particularly now, it is critical that the Berkeley community come together once again to protect this right.  It is who we are.

Nonetheless, defending the right of free speech for those whose ideas we find offensive is not easy.  It often conflicts with the values we hold as a community—tolerance, inclusion, reason and diversity.  Some constitutionally-protected speech attacks the very identity of particular groups of individuals in ways that are deeply hurtful.  However, the right response is not the heckler’s veto, or what some call platform denial.  Call toxic speech out for what it is, don’t shout it down, for in shouting it down, you collude in the narrative that universities are not open to all speech. Respond to hate speech with more speech.

We all desire safe space, where we can be ourselves and find support for our identities.  You have the right at Berkeley to expect the university to keep you physically safe. But we would be providing students with a less valuable education, preparing them less well for the world after graduation, if we tried to shelter them from ideas that many find wrong, even dangerous.  We must show that we can choose what to listen to, that we can cultivate our own arguments and that we can develop inner resilience, which is the surest form of safe space.  These are not easy tasks, and we will offer support services for those who desire them.

This September, Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos have both been invited by student groups to speak at Berkeley.  The university has the responsibility to provide safety and security for its community and guests, and we will invest the necessary resources to achieve that goal.  If you choose to protest, do so peacefully.  That is your right, and we will defend it with vigor.  We will not tolerate violence, and we will hold anyone accountable who engages in it.

We will have many opportunities this year to come together as a Berkeley community over the issue of free speech; it will be a free speech year.  We have already planned a student panel, a faculty panel and several book talks.  Bridge USA and the Center for New Media will hold a day-long conference on October 5; PEN, the international writers’ organization, will hold a free speech convening in Berkeley on October 23.  We are planning a series in which people with sharply divergent points of view will meet for a moderated discussion.  Free speech is our legacy, and we have the power once more to shape this narrative.

Sincerely,

Carol Christ
Chancellor
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:43:29 PM EDT
[#1]
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Per Milo's FB page:



This is a message circulated to the UC Berkeley community from new Chancellor, Carol Christ. What a difference six months make! Let's hope Berkeley sticks to this commitment to free expression.

From: "Carol T. Christ Chancellor"
Date: August 23, 2017 at 8:48:26 AM PDT
Subject: Free Speech

Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,

This fall, the issue of free speech will once more engage our community in powerful and complex ways. Events in Charlottesville, with their racism, bigotry, violence and mayhem, make the issue of free speech even more tense. The law is very clear; public institutions like UC Berkeley must permit speakers invited in accordance with campus policies to speak, without discrimination in regard to point of view.  The United States has the strongest free speech protections of any liberal democracy; the First Amendment protects even speech that most of us would find hateful, abhorrent and odious, and the courts have consistently upheld these protections.

But the most powerful argument for free speech is not one of legal constraint—that we’re required to allow it—but of value.  The public expression of many sharply divergent points of view is fundamental both to our democracy and to our mission as a university. The philosophical justification underlying free speech, most powerfully articulated by John Stuart Mill in his book On Liberty, rests on two basic assumptions. The first is that truth is of such power that it will always ultimately prevail; any abridgement of argument therefore compromises the opportunity of exchanging error for truth. The second is an extreme skepticism about the right of any authority to determine which opinions are noxious or abhorrent. Once you embark on the path to censorship, you make your own speech vulnerable to it.

Berkeley, as you know, is the home of the Free Speech Movement, where students on the right and students on the left united to fight for the right to advocate political views on campus.  Particularly now, it is critical that the Berkeley community come together once again to protect this right.  It is who we are.

Nonetheless, defending the right of free speech for those whose ideas we find offensive is not easy.  It often conflicts with the values we hold as a community—tolerance, inclusion, reason and diversity.  Some constitutionally-protected speech attacks the very identity of particular groups of individuals in ways that are deeply hurtful.  However, the right response is not the heckler’s veto, or what some call platform denial.  Call toxic speech out for what it is, don’t shout it down, for in shouting it down, you collude in the narrative that universities are not open to all speech. Respond to hate speech with more speech.

We all desire safe space, where we can be ourselves and find support for our identities.  You have the right at Berkeley to expect the university to keep you physically safe. But we would be providing students with a less valuable education, preparing them less well for the world after graduation, if we tried to shelter them from ideas that many find wrong, even dangerous.  We must show that we can choose what to listen to, that we can cultivate our own arguments and that we can develop inner resilience, which is the surest form of safe space.  These are not easy tasks, and we will offer support services for those who desire them.

This September, Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos have both been invited by student groups to speak at Berkeley.  The university has the responsibility to provide safety and security for its community and guests, and we will invest the necessary resources to achieve that goal.  If you choose to protest, do so peacefully.  That is your right, and we will defend it with vigor.  We will not tolerate violence, and we will hold anyone accountable who engages in it.

We will have many opportunities this year to come together as a Berkeley community over the issue of free speech; it will be a free speech year.  We have already planned a student panel, a faculty panel and several book talks.  Bridge USA and the Center for New Media will hold a day-long conference on October 5; PEN, the international writers’ organization, will hold a free speech convening in Berkeley on October 23.  We are planning a series in which people with sharply divergent points of view will meet for a moderated discussion.  Free speech is our legacy, and we have the power once more to shape this narrative.

Sincerely,

Carol Christ
Chancellor
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Holy crap!

She won't last long.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:45:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Huh... we shall see
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:49:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Words written on a piece of paper are nothing; actions are what count.  When a conservative speaker is allowed to speak, the audience is allowed to attend, and those that attempt to disrupt the event are arrested, you will have free speech.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:50:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Burn. It. Down.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:51:33 PM EDT
[#5]
Good words, but actions speak louder. Withholding judgment for now....
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:52:04 PM EDT
[#6]
Berkeley, as you know, is the home of the Free Speech Movement, where students on the right and students on the left united to fight for the right to advocate political views on campus.
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LOL
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:54:32 PM EDT
[#7]
They're pissing their pants at Harmeet Dhillon!
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:55:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Cool story bro
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:55:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Waiting for the By Any Means Necessary tards to strike with the retard strength of a 1000 harambe memes.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:56:27 PM EDT
[#10]
I won't hold my breath on her sentiment being shown in action.


Oh... and we all need our "safe space".
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:02:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Antifa's gonna burn her shit down...
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:03:42 PM EDT
[#12]
She lost me at liberal democracy.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:08:46 PM EDT
[#13]
The "tolerant" left will show up and still become uncivil and shout down the speaker. Or throwing bags filled with piss.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:09:38 PM EDT
[#14]
I truly hope she can push for that change and un-program those kids and future students.

Unfortunately, I think It's too late.  She'll be labeled a Nazi and they will burn that mother down again.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:09:41 PM EDT
[#15]
The law is very clear; public institutions like UC Berkeley must permit speakers invited in accordance with campus policies to speak, without discrimination in regard to point of view. The United States has the strongest free speech protections of any liberal democracy; the First Amendment protects even speech that most of us would find hateful, abhorrent and odious, and the courts have consistently upheld these protections.

She drinks the cool aid. This announcement is smoke a mirrors!
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:09:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Well- those are fine sentiments. I especially liked the John Stuart Mill reference.

Let's see if she can enforce them.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:10:46 PM EDT
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She won't last long.
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She is literally worse than Hitler.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:10:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Bullshit.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:15:52 PM EDT
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Berkeley, as you know, is the home of the Free Speech Movement, where students on the right and students on the left united to fight for the right to advocate political views on campus.
LOL
there are some, my son attends and he's based
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:16:31 PM EDT
[#20]
We will see. 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:23:39 PM EDT
[#21]
Bet she's voted out by November. The hourly two-minute-hates must continue unimpeded.

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:39:32 PM EDT
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Most likely scenario
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:42:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Wow....wasnt expecting that
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:51:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Next staff meeting she will be hit with a bike lock
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 7:54:36 PM EDT
[#25]
That's racist
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:00:34 PM EDT
[#26]
Ballsy.

In before she is killed with a hammer by urban youth.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:00:40 PM EDT
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there are some, my son attends and he's based
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Berkeley, as you know, is the home of the Free Speech Movement, where students on the right and students on the left united to fight for the right to advocate political views on campus.
LOL
there are some, my son attends and he's based
+1 

I went to Berkeley. There were (some) conservatives on campus. 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:02:40 PM EDT
[#28]
How much are they charging Ben Shapiro for "security"?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:11:21 PM EDT
[#29]
"We all desire safe space, where we can be ourselves and find support for our identities."

Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:12:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Bullshit.......its a trap.

    Like last time, the cops and Berkeley will do nothing to prevent wide spread RIOTING.

    They are suckering the right into a situation they control.

    I would decline the offer with regards to the safety of the participants requested to speak. Its obvious they have no control over their students or antifa.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:15:39 PM EDT
[#31]
Actions speak louder than words, we shall see.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:20:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:22:10 PM EDT
[#33]
The first is that truth is of such power that it will always ultimately prevail Not sure I agree with this one given the corruption of the left and the media.

You just know this woman views any speech that is right of center as hate speech that must not be tolerated but she will play the game of inclusion.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:24:13 PM EDT
[#34]
Good.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:27:56 PM EDT
[#35]
She supports nazis and is probably a nazi herself.

Or something
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:35:25 PM EDT
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The college republicans are putting up 15k according to an article from the Daily Caller I read earlier.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:40:57 PM EDT
[#37]
She can put whatever she wants on that paper. It's promises from a lib, and everything that goes with it.

As soon as the first lib gets their feelings hurt, the riots will start again. They will use her fancy little paper to start the fires with.

As always, the powers that be will stand back and watch it all go up in flames.

And less people will give a shit than last time. I only have so many shits to give, and  I'm running kinda low.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:55:20 PM EDT
[#38]
City already implemented new policy giving itself new "temporary" powers to shut events of 100 or more people down last week and antifa is pissed off by this UC Berkeley statement
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 8:59:52 PM EDT
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She won't last long.
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I covered all this last week on my Twitter account. University, city and state .gov plus ACLU figured out how to fuck over conservative speakers and events with many tactics such as
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:03:54 PM EDT
[#40]
Dear Berkeley,

Somebody shut that bitch up or we'll come fuckstart her head.

Sincerely, Antifa.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:09:30 PM EDT
[#41]
Plus bonus of more gun control opportunism on the other side of the bay
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:21:19 PM EDT
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Yep. WTF

Try again lady, it's pronounced constitutional republic.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:21:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Placeholder to come back in the morning and see if she is still alive.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 9:24:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Sounds too good to be true from the left.  I will believe it when I see it
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