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Posted: 4/26/2009 4:29:29 AM EST
... and this time Beretta, imho opinion, kicked asses!

ARX160

The rifle has been started to be issued to our Army for final refinement field testing and actually is also "working" in Afghanistan. There are a lot of new features, included the chance to change the barrel in SECONDS and ON FIELD and to change instantly the ejection direction...

I wrote a long article for a national distributed gun magazine in Italy, so I am in the deep inside the subject.

Ask whatever you want.

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:33:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By PaoloAR15:
... and this time Beretta, imho opinion, kicked asses!

ARX160

The rifle has been started to be issued to our Army for final refinement field testing and actually is also "working" in Afghanistan. There are a lot of new features, included the chance to change the barrel in SECONDS and ON FIELD and to change instantly the ejection direction...

I wrote a long article for a national distributed gun magazine in Italy, so I am in the deep inside the subject.

Ask whatever you want.

Are you Sicilian?

j/k

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:34:55 AM EST
looks like a Masada and a Beretta Storm mated...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:35:10 AM EST
How much did Beretta pay HK?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:36:02 AM EST


I like it.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:36:51 AM EST
It looks like the stock folds, does it Extend?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:37:18 AM EST
Spiral Interoperability...

I want one!

Grazie, Beretta!
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:37:42 AM EST
The barrel seems rather thin. Is that an illusion?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:38:44 AM EST
Kinda neat looking rifle
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:38:45 AM EST
The buttstock looks the same, I know. Was tested also by US personnel, and the comments were unanimously good...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:39:58 AM EST
It kinda looks fat to me. Atleast at the hand guard. Not knocking it, looks pretty cool otherwise.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:45:22 AM EST
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:47:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?



I think the double-action trigger is for the grenade launcher only. Note the distance between the rear of the trigger and where the pistol grip begins. On a double-action gun, there is a larger gap there than on a single-action.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:48:10 AM EST
How many thrust per squeeze does it get?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:48:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?



I think thats the grenade launcher
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:49:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By paul_the_welder:


I like it.


It folds, in a way very close to the one of the SIG rifles, and it extend: buttstock is collapsible, 4 positions...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:51:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By postpostban:
It looks like the stock folds, does it Extend?


t folds, in a way very close to the one of the SIG rifles, and it extend: buttstock is collapsible, 4 positions...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:52:49 AM EST
Had some time with my first SCAR yesterday...

These new rifles are makin me feel old...I mean an SBR AR is just old school, now.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:52:55 AM EST
So the Masada did come out...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:54:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By FreeFloater:
The barrel seems rather thin. Is that an illusion?


Barrel on the real thing is thicker than appears on the pics. Little bit more than the classical M16A1 pencil barrel...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:57:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?




The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 4:59:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By GySgtD:
So the Masada did come out...


completely DIFFERENT gas system from Masada.

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:01:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2009 5:03:30 AM EST by sherrick13]
Did it pass teh drop and harsh stacking test?

















j/k Looks like a cool rifle. The most important question is when is the civilian version going to be for sale in the US?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:03:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By PaoloAR15:
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?




The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...


OK, that makes sense. How long until a range report?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:03:59 AM EST
Whats the height over the bore of the iron sights and the optic rail?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:05:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Originally Posted By PaoloAR15:
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?




The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...


OK, that makes sense. How long until a range report?


I am scheduled to test it, including the grenade launcher... very soon. I'll keep you updated.

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:06:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By PaoloAR15:
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Originally Posted By PaoloAR15:
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?




The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...


OK, that makes sense. How long until a range report?


I am scheduled to test it, including the grenade launcher... very soon. I'll keep you updated.




We want pics.....no, we WANT VIDEO!!
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:09:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Whats the height over the bore of the iron sights and the optic rail?



good question. AFAI the design keeps the sights very low on the receiver, EI uses a special version of Aimpoint M2 called "acies" that has lower mount.

Next time I will handle the rifle I'll measure it...
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:14:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2009 5:14:58 AM EST by PBIR]
Very interesting design. It definitely reminds me of the XM8 project in some ways.

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:14:29 AM EST
Awesome rifle!



Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:15:51 AM EST
I would take one................if Beretta would import
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:17:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2009 5:23:50 AM EST by peasant]
Tell us more about the optics.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:20:57 AM EST
Where can I get 10 stripped lowers?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:21:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By peasant:
Tell us about the optic.



Which one? The rifle is the platform for the "Future Soldier" implementation.

But will be delivered with Aimpoint M2 Acies, a version of your M2/M68 sight to be adapted for Beretta 70/90. I saw also a display with ARX160 and Burris XTR135... I don't know if this will be issued.


Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:22:51 AM EST
I'll take 3, address to follow.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:24:03 AM EST
Looks like a Storm/SCAR and SIG 556 all had sex together.

i'll buy one
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:24:30 AM EST
Originally Posted By cyclone:
I would take one................if Beretta would import


Never say never... but for the .mil people.

I already asked for a semiauto version, but at the moment is not in any plan.

The gun can easily shot other calibers, including 7,62 soviet, 6.8 grendel. Just change barrel, lower (because of the magwell), bolt.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:24:51 AM EST
Too Scaresque for my liking!
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:25:15 AM EST
I need a few hundred for extended abuse, err... testing, that is.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:26:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By armoredsaint:
Looks like a Storm/SCAR and SIG 556 all had sex together.

i'll buy one


LOL!!!

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:27:29 AM EST
Pretty cool. I like it.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:29:07 AM EST


looks like if you dropped it in the mud you would have to take it to the car wash to get the dirt out of that Kawasaki fender well on the front..

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:29:51 AM EST
Piston driven and folding stock....
Mikhail had that figured out long ago.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:42:26 AM EST
The magazine well looks kind of deep. Can this rifle use 20 round magazines ? What about polymer magazines, like Magpul PMAGS and the like ?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:44:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:50:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:56:31 AM EST
Very nice.


Not to change the subject, but what are the gun laws like in Italy? Is it difficult to own an AR?



Just curious, I'm not moving there.


Yet.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 5:58:08 AM EST
The receiver on that sucker is HUGE!!!! What's up with that!?
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 6:00:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2009 6:07:43 AM EST by bigshooter81]
Is this the mythical Beretta RX ?

Are we going to see this stateside with the other X's

is it still going to be in multiple calibers like the other X models?

Link Posted: 4/26/2009 6:02:49 AM EST
Some guy on facebook has been recommending this for the US military's new assault rifle. I always said, nah, they'll never pick it up.

Surprised the Italian army went with it.
Link Posted: 4/26/2009 6:04:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2009 6:05:13 AM EST by Lympago]
So, how many rounds before it melts?












Just kidding, I know Beretta can make a fine firearm being an owner of a CX4, 92FS, and M9.
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