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Posted: 7/18/2002 3:59:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:02:42 PM EST
Check out the position of that selector [:)]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:03:12 PM EST
Is this how the Dead End Kids got started?
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:06:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:14:51 PM EST
A military summer camp to teach juvinile delinquints how to use AKs!! Does this strike anyone else as a particularly BAD idea? Oh yea, Moscow, never mind.[:K][heavy]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:20:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 4:22:18 PM EST by Benjamin0001]
That boy is probably walking around with a big o shiner right now. hahah Too funny. Ben EDITED TO ADD: Did anyone look at the front of the rifle. It looks like the flash supressor has been broken off?? WTH OVER?? Ben
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:25:07 PM EST
EDITED TO ADD: Did anyone look at the front of the rifle. It looks like the flash supressor has been broken off?? WTH OVER?? Ben
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That the "slant break" it's supposed to direct some of the gas up and right to help keep the muzle down during full auto fire.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:31:27 PM EST
Nyet Nyet Nyet! Aren't they going to teach how to properly SHOULDER the rifle? [stick] FOTBR
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:35:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:36:40 PM EST
wouldn't that slant break be very detrimental to accuracy because of the disparity between the pressure on opposite sides of the bullet as it leaves the barrel? [>:/]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:40:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterD: A military summer camp to teach juvinile delinquints how to use AKs!! Does this strike anyone else as a particularly BAD idea? Oh yea, Moscow, never mind.[:K][heavy]
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HEE-HEE! Can you imagine the absolute coniptions the libs would have if we set the same thing up here? What a hoot it would be to see Sarah popping what's left of a lung on Fox News!
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:40:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By nm_man: wouldn't that slant break be very detrimental to accuracy because of the disparity between the pressure on opposite sides of the bullet as it leaves the barrel? [>:/]
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I don't think that anyone has ever acused the AK of being an acurate gun. It was designed to be a ruged and easy to use combat rifle, and it does a damn good job of it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:41:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 4:43:41 PM EST by WhiskeyBravo]
Reminds me of a day at the range last year where I watched a guy with a scoped Remington get his first Weaver bite.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:42:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle: Nyet Nyet Nyet! Aren't they going to teach how to properly SHOULDER the rifle? [stick] FOTBR
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Ever shot an AK with bare skin ? Leaves nice half moon marks/pinches on your shoulder from the cleaning kit port.....
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:42:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By nm_man: wouldn't that slant break be very detrimental to accuracy because of the disparity between the pressure on opposite sides of the bullet as it leaves the barrel? [>:/]
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I guess the bullet is moving so fast that it doesn't make all that much of a difference. Not enough time for the redirected gasses to mess with the bullet going downrange. If someone knows a better answer to this, I'm all ears since I have one of these on my Polytech AK-47S.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:43:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle: Nyet Nyet Nyet! Aren't they going to teach how to properly SHOULDER the rifle? [stick] FOTBR
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Ever shot an AK with bare skin ? Leaves nice half moon marks/pinches on your shoulder from the cleaning kit port.....
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 4:48:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 4:52:23 PM EST by FanoftheBlackRifle]
Originally Posted By Hotrod:
Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle: Nyet Nyet Nyet! Aren't they going to teach how to properly SHOULDER the rifle? [stick] FOTBR
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Ever shot an AK with bare skin ? Leaves nice half moon marks/pinches on your shoulder from the cleaning kit port.....
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Yes, I have. Yes, it leaves marks. No worse than my SKS that I use for blasting. Its still no excuse. I just think that if they're going to do something, do it right. FOTBR edited to add: But then again, I used to play paintball, and we didn't really pay attention to keeping the muzzle velocity of those to under 300 or 250 fps. It wasn't uncommon for our paintguns to be shooting upwards of 400 fps. Its a whole new ballgame when the paint's movin that fast. It HURTS. Maybe that has something to do with my attitude.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 5:28:49 PM EST
Not to Hijack this post but, Paintball ROCKS.........Period if you havent tried it your missing out on a great time, I have a few markers (Auto Cocker, Tippman M-98,and Viper) What markers does everyone else use?
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 5:33:18 PM EST
Ouch! my eye.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 5:46:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Benjamin0001: That boy is probably walking around with a big o shiner right now. hahah Too funny. Ben
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No kidding! He's gonna stamp his cheek with the receiver as soon as he cranks his first burst down range!
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 5:51:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By USNA91:
Originally Posted By nm_man: wouldn't that slant break be very detrimental to accuracy because of the disparity between the pressure on opposite sides of the bullet as it leaves the barrel? [>:/]
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I guess the bullet is moving so fast that it doesn't make all that much of a difference. Not enough time for the redirected gasses to mess with the bullet going downrange. If someone knows a better answer to this, I'm all ears since I have one of these on my Polytech AK-47S.
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The AK muzzle brake is extremely effective for controling muzzle climb in full auto. Never was the worlds most accurate rifle, but enough controled fire with little muzzle climb has been getting results for hundreds of millions of AK fans around the globe for over 50 years. You take a 5'4", 130 lb NVA and give him a rifle that climbs during full auto, and he might as well be duck hunting, because the lead would be heading straight up. Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 6:07:29 PM EST
My brother and his wife adopted two Russian kids, ages 2 and 4. Some of workers at the orphanage told my brother that if the children are not adopted by the time they reach the age of 16, the smart/talented kids are put into the military, like it or not. The kids that arent recruited for military service are released, basically under their own care. The majority of those released are dead within two years. Primarily from disease and/or suicide. Hardcore and sad!
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 7:26:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 7:27:55 PM EST by ah1z]
actually I remembering going to camp carolina army summer camp down at ft jackson when I was a freshman in highschool. it was a wonderful experience, running the obsticale course, fit to win course, victory tower, marksmanship range, land nav, survival swimming, one rope bridging, first aid, and daily pt [:D]. one of my best memories from highschool. (either that or camp mckall but thats another story [}:D]).
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 7:30:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Gunner1X: My brother and his wife adopted two Russian kids, ages 2 and 4. Some of workers at the orphanage told my brother that if the children are not adopted by the time they reach the age of 16, the smart/talented kids are put into the military, like it or not. The kids that arent recruited for military service are released, basically under their own care. The majority of those released are dead within two years. Primarily from disease and/or suicide. Hardcore and sad!
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I'm not trying to dis your relatives, but it really irks me when people adopt from other countries. We have enough here to go around.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 7:39:45 PM EST
my guess why the rifle is not shouldered is because he can't. the stock is too long. it is actually quite a common fenomina in 3rd worlds like sierra leon, somolia etc.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 8:08:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterD: A military summer camp to teach juvinile delinquints how to use AKs!! Does this strike anyone else as a particularly BAD idea? Oh yea, Moscow, never mind.[:K][heavy]
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I don't see how teaching proper firearms skills and safety will be detrimental to any youth. Kind of like these remote retreats we have for some of our little hoodlums over here - if they learn to ride horses, I don't think that will make them more likely to become horse thieves. Probably something along the lines of "stay out of trouble and stay in school and you can join the army and shoot cool AK's". As for the slant break - remember - it's affecting each shot THE SAME. Little to no effect on accuracy insofar as its role is a combat rifle.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 9:07:39 PM EST
DevilsAdvocate, Re Gunner1X's bro & sister inlaw Russki adoptees: "I'm not trying to dis your relatives, but it really irks me when people adopt from other countries. We have enough here to go around. " From what I understand the red tape/paperwork goatscrew/$$$$$$ to adopt an American child is a huge burden not to mention the potential for 'baby Jessica' situations where the birth mother (or father) changes their mind.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 9:34:10 PM EST
Looks like fun to me. If an American kid was in the same pic, it would only be fodder for the Anti-gun pinheads. Probably paint the kid's parents as grossly negligent, and the child a deviant.
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 6:43:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By Tate:
Originally Posted By RangemasterD: A military summer camp to teach juvinile delinquints how to use AKs!! Does this strike anyone else as a particularly BAD idea? Oh yea, Moscow, never mind.[:K][heavy]
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I don't see how teaching proper firearms skills and safety will be detrimental to any youth. Kind of like these remote retreats we have for some of our little hoodlums over here - if they learn to ride horses, I don't think that will make them more likely to become horse thieves. Probably something along the lines of "stay out of trouble and stay in school and you can join the army and shoot cool AK's". As for the slant break - remember - it's affecting each shot THE SAME. Little to no effect on accuracy insofar as its role is a combat rifle.
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I didn't say it was bad for the youths, I said it was a bad idea for society. Having worked with juvinile delinquints in the past I can say for shure that if you can rehabilitate one kid in a hundred you are doing pretty well. Lets face it most of them have made up their minds to be punks and no amount of "let me show you how much I care." will change them. And NONE of our "remote retreats" teach anything even related to firearms or violence. Showing a bad kid how to use an assault rifle then turning him loose on society, like I said and extrodinarily BAD idea.
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 2:17:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mach1: Looks like fun to me. If an American kid was in the same pic, it would only be fodder for the Anti-gun pinheads. Probably paint the kid's parents as grossly negligent, and the child a deviant.
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Well, I dunno about devient, but according to the first post, the kid is a delinquent. FOTBR
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 2:23:26 PM EST
Guns are bad. See they give young Seirgy a black eye.
Link Posted: 7/19/2002 2:30:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterD:
EDITED TO ADD: Did anyone look at the front of the rifle. It looks like the flash supressor has been broken off?? WTH OVER?? Ben
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That the "slant break" it's supposed to direct some of the gas up and right to help keep the muzle down during full auto fire.
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That's what was on the AK I bought oh-so-many-years-ago.
nm-man asked: wouldn't that slant break be very detrimental to accuracy because of the disparity between the pressure on opposite sides of the bullet as it leaves the barrel?
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Never seemed to affect mine. Remember, these things aren't tack-drivers.
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