I HATE THAT SHIT!!

I heard this one just last week.

"A black guy at the party just LOVED my tuna casserole"

Now WTF does racial heritage have to do with tuna casserole?

Well, in all honesty, if a black guy was talking to a bunch of other black guys I am sure that he would say, "This white guy came to work nekkid busting stuff up."
I think you just use labels to describe people different than yourself.

In keeping with the spirit of and in respect for Both Cavvet and Gman I will relate a true incident that occured while I was dayshift watch commander at the Metro housing authority PD.  This occurred in about 1994.

Two of my Patrolmen had responded to a call of a naked man running through the housing complex at about 11AM on a sunday morning.  this is generally a low traffic time in the projects as many residents are either at church, or sleeping ( it off).  The guys responded and immediately called for backup and a supervisor.  Two other zone cars and mself responded. We arrived to find that the neighbors had this dud surrounded and backed into a cornerand the first arriving officers were trying to arrest him.  He was obviously not armed. He was also obviously wacked out of his mind an possesed of nut strength as he easily threw off the officers.  It took six of us to get him to the ground and cuffed.  

While this was going on a woman who had just walked up onto the scene began complaining how white cops had done a " brother " wrong and how could they treat him like that and all piled on and beating him and such.  A few of the residents turned on the now shocked activist advising her not so politely to STFU, mind her own damned business and called her a Beotch and dumb c--t.  She was surprised to see black citizens sticking up for white cops.  Turns out this guy had actually run through one house, in the front door, out the back while a family with small children was eating breakfast.  They didn't care what color the cops were, so long as they got rid of the problem.  They were however more than prepared to beat his Naked Azz into pulp, so I guess we saved his life that day.  Having seen now former community activist on several other occaisions she actually learned to keep her mouth shut before jumping to conclusions, we also stopped neighbors from beating her to oblivion.  

We get the guy to the hospital, his tox comes back pcp.  He then gives us his brothers name as his own.  Brother is wanted on multiple felony warrants, so we say JACKPOT.  He says no uh thats not me uh uh, here let me call my brother.  We call brother to come to hospital to save his poor sibling.  Bingo two for one. Both brothers got to serve their sentence together for a time.

Ahh those were the days.  Life is never dull for a project cop.

So when we describe someone we are supposed to not mention color? What did his sex have to do with it? Why was it germain to mention that it was a man? Why should it not have been Naked Person? Why pick on Men.

Is that a black or white chip of wood on your shoulder?

And when you fill out a form 4473 do you throw a stink every time you have to mark your race on the form. It's called a description. Plain and simple.

The story was about a Naked Black Man outside his wife's office building.

Back to the topic...

This guy was obviously an "EDP" (PC for craaazy mo fo) and acting entirely irrational...unless this sort of thing is common at Ms garandwomans' office, which I imagine it is not or Mr garandman would not have posted this.

Most states allow lawful use of Deadly Force if the person about to use it has a "reasonable" and "well founded" fear that they are in imminent danger of death or "grave bodily harm", or something very similar. Now "grave bodily harm" means VERY serious injury, NOT that you may get your new shirt torn or your knee scraped...and "imminent" means right now, right here, and there is pretty much no way out.

In an office, there is probably much less "duty to retreat if possible" than there would be if this whacko was freaking out in, say, the parking lot or the middle of the mall. Maybe not the same situation as someones' home, but pretty close, especially after he had broken the glass and entered through a previously locked door. Nekkid or not, a determined adversary with a chair, or table leg, or piece of window glass, or computer monitor can kill you just as dead as with a .45 auto.

I believe that...legally...at some point in all this, although the person who was there would have to decide exactly when, there would almost certainly have been justification for use of deadly force against this EDP. Having said that, I also believe that most people, even with a CCW and a firearm close at hand, would not have done so because he was "unarmed". (and because they have never seen how fast such an incident can turn deadly...can you say "blink of an eye"?)

There is also the issue of everything involved in the aftermath of use of Deadly Force...legally justified or not...and it will invariably be worse than usual (and that's pretty bad) if the person shot is "an unarmed, emotionally disturbed male of a minority race" and the person who pulled the trigger is a caucasion. (You don't have to like that fact, but you should realize that it IS a fact.) You can fill in the blanks yourself as far as what the liberal press and others will say and how they will spin it.

This does not begin to address the issue, since we have not discussed the death threat calls and notes, or the things other children will say at school to the garandchildren, or the "friends" who will not visit or call any more, or the bloodstains on the office floor that must be cleaned up, but the effects of which must be confronted every work day, or the sea-change in attitudes of others in the office who have witnessed their co-worker actually shoot another human being, or the "experts" (who were not there, of course) who will say it was unnecessary to shoot or that he should have been shot in the leg, or other such crap. Or the nightmares, or the constant self flagellation of personal second guessing...and then there are the civil lawsuits...which even if ruled unfounded still require an attorney to be answered and dealt with.

Pulling the trigger for real is not "cool". It is the absolute last thing you ever want to have to do in this world. Maybe the only thing worse is if it is you or a loved one lying face down in a pool of congealing blood because you did NOT pull the trigger when you should have.

This time it turned out well...next time? Who knows.

So would that be North American, South American, Central American or just what?

Do you refuse to accept a drivers license because it list race on it?