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Posted: 9/10/2013 2:18:51 PM EDT
Neighbor brought over his HD gun - an old Browning A5 16 guage that was his grandfather's.  Nice bird gun, but not ideal for the HD role.  He didn't have any shotshells, so told him I'd find some for him.  Also said he will eventually get a handgun.  Not the most interesting story, but not often your neighbor shows up with an old A5 and calls it his HD gun.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:19:33 PM EDT
Old school.

Like, WAY old school.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:19:48 PM EDT
I see no problem with this
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:20:08 PM EDT
Well, in all fairness, it'll fuck you up with the right loads.

Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:21:49 PM EDT
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As can be said of many "unusual choice" home/self defense firearms, I certainly wouldn't want to stand in front of it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:21:51 PM EDT



Ya, I think my A5 will work just fine.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:22:00 PM EDT
Well, I guess it's better than nothing.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:23:55 PM EDT
Browning A5, saying don't fuck with me since well before WWII.



Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:25:39 PM EDT
Don't really see a problem here.  I've used a 16ga Winchester mdl 12 for years.  The guy with a hole in him isn't really going to notice any difference.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:25:42 PM EDT
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Indeed.  I'd hate to be the man who gets shot with it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:26:17 PM EDT
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Oh my God. I don't think I've ever wanted anything as much as I want that shotgun.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:26:23 PM EDT
Probably the most reliable auto design ever, and until just recently, the fastest shooting shotgun on earth.  With the speed feed feature, it is like having a bottomless magazine.

Keep it oiled and fed, and he is well protected.  Slugs available right now at SDAmmo

ETA: those buckshot loads at midway are the ticket
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:26:25 PM EDT
I would not want to be on the receiving end of a 16 gauge.

especially one loaded with these.

#1buck 16 ga
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:27:16 PM EDT
The A5 is a fine shotgun. With a light attached, and with proper ammo, there's no reason it wouldn't work for HD.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:29:28 PM EDT
my A5 12ga, kicking ass since 1937
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:29:42 PM EDT
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Oh my God. I don't think I've ever wanted anything as much as I want that shotgun.
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Ya, I think my A5 will work just fine.

Oh my God. I don't think I've ever wanted anything as much as I want that shotgun.


Butstock is now shorter with a custom steel one made; truer to whippett form

I sold it's twin on the EE awhile again made from a 1909 dated A5.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:31:09 PM EDT
PM me your address and I'll send you about 50 I have in my stash from a 16 gauge I sold.  Mostly birdshot but some buck and slugs.  TJR
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:34:00 PM EDT
I always wanted one of those. Don't know why I just do.

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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:34:27 PM EDT
I have an 1950 A5 12ga with an 18" barrel and a plus 1 mag cap. 6 rds of 00 buck and one slug for the coup d gras


fires 100% of everything it's fed.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:37:14 PM EDT
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The ones I have shot (several over the years) have all cycled very slowly. Much slower than a Remington 1100, 11-87, etc.


FWIW my dad's HD gun is a 16-gauge 870 with #1 buck and a cylinder-bore barrel.


Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:39:27 PM EDT
I'd trust my life to any A5.

Even one with 1.5 million rounds through it.  Possibly never properly cleaned.  With a blown out choke.  Which has been sitting in a field for a year.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:40:53 PM EDT
Kicking ass since 1906. Remington 11 with speed feed. my go to shotgun for home defense. Your neighbor has good taste in auto loaders. 16 gauge HD loads ain't cheap though



Friends A5 mag



Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:41:01 PM EDT
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This.
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:46:36 PM EDT
Absolutely one of the greatest shotguns ever made.   Properly set up for the load you're shooting, they just never fail to work.



Damn straight, I'd trust one for home defense.  With OO buck.



I have one, a 12 ga. light twelve made in '53.   It just WORKS.





CJ
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:51:16 PM EDT
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"Auuggh!!   Feed them to the sharks.
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The ones I have shot (several over the years) have all cycled very slowly. Much slower than a Remington 1100, 11-87, etc.


FWIW my dad's HD gun is a 16-gauge 870 with #1 buck and a cylinder-bore barrel.


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The ones I have shot (several over the years) have all cycled very slowly. Much slower than a Remington 1100, 11-87, etc.


FWIW my dad's HD gun is a 16-gauge 870 with #1 buck and a cylinder-bore barrel.




Article is about 12 years old but still amazing that a design over 100 years old still holds its own with the fastest cycling shotguns made today.
Speed shotgun
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:57:21 PM EDT
16 guage, no less.

Awesome!
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 2:58:24 PM EDT
I aint tryin' tuh get shot wif no teener, dog

(seriously though, pretty neat shoot-gun)
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:04:25 PM EDT
Sweet  
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Keep it oiled and fed, and he is well protected.  Slugs available right now at SDAmmo

ETA: those buckshot loads at midway are the ticket
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Not true...by a long shot.  


Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:07:28 PM EDT
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Neighbor brought over his HD gun - an old Browning A5 16 guage that was his grandfather's.  Nice bird gun, but not ideal for the HD role.  He didn't have any shotshells, so told him I'd find some for him.  Also said he will eventually get a handgun.  Not the most interesting story, but not often your neighbor shows up with an old A5 and calls it his HD gun.
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Not like the room clearing Tier 1 Operators... But I would not stand in front of it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:08:23 PM EDT
It's reliable. It's got enough power to remove someone's important organs. It'd be hell on someone, say, coming through a window or up the stairs. 16ga doesn't have as much recoil.

Not seeing a problem here. Put a short as legal barrel on it, and that's it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:11:56 PM EDT
Better then nothing.
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It's a LOT better than nothing. I am not sure why when someone shows a  16ga, people automatically picture birdshot.

00 buck in that at in-home engagement ranges would put down even a meth tweaker.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:15:56 PM EDT
When you only own one gun it makes sense that it be one capable of many things. Birds, bucks, bunnies, bears and burglars, the Auto 5 has it covered.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:16:59 PM EDT
The only semi auto shotgun I have stove piped on my first encounter.



It worked flawlessly though when firmly shouldered and I backed off on my index finger's Browning Hi-Power trained cyclic rate.



Still would like one though if I come across one FTF

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That is beautiful.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:22:08 PM EDT
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I see you never shot a sweet sixteen lol
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:26:39 PM EDT
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Oh my God. I don't think I've ever wanted anything as much as I want that shotgun.


I watched a guy run something similar at a 3 Gun Match, it was mesmerizing.  
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:27:37 PM EDT
That should do the job fine.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:30:04 PM EDT
My dad has an Auto 5 12 gauge, to say it is unpleasant to shoot is an understatement.  Straight blowback shotgun IIRC.
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good chance the recoil ring is in backwards
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:00:10 PM EDT
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Like, WAY old school.
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Like Bonnie and Clyde old school...
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:02:15 PM EDT
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me neither.  If he's capable with it then God speed
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:02:21 PM EDT
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Yo tombien.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:10:05 PM EDT
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My dad has an Auto 5 12 gauge, to say it is unpleasant to shoot is an understatement.  Straight blowback shotgun IIRC.

good chance the recoil ring is in backwards


There are many old ones floating around with NO recoil rings at all, just the barrel and spring.  Those will let you know when you shoot it.

Matching the recoil ring setup to the load and it is as pleasant as any 12 ga to shoot.  That steel receiver soaks up a lot of recoil.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:12:46 PM EDT
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It's long-recoil operated. The barrel and bolt recoil together to the back of the receiver, then the bolt unlocks and the barrel moves forward. There's supposed to be a friction ring between the barrel and its spring that arrests its motion on the outside of the magazine tube (I think?). If it's gone or in the wrong position, the barrel and bolt are probably moving too fast and banging hard against the receiver.
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