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Posted: 12/12/2013 11:50:29 AM EST
Guys,

A homie of mine up in VT is doing me a solid....and I'd like to get him a shotgun. A good home defense shotgun.

He's a good dude and I don't want to go cheap, but I'm not looking to go above about $600.

Remington and Mossberg are the two brands I've looked at....but there are too many choices.

The only thing I'm sure of is I'd like it to have the 18.5" barrel.

Any advice or recommendations?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:52:27 AM EST
Savage

Mossberg JIC
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:53:51 AM EST
my 590A1 is tits. However it is heavy as fuck.

A 500 or 870 in any flavor you want will serve him well.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:55:22 AM EST
Pre-cerberus Remington 870.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:56:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 11:56:50 AM EST by shotgunfatcat]
Go cheap and tactical the fuck out of it.

Maverick 88, flash light, laser, scope, magnifier, collapsible stock. Paint it green.

But seriously, go with the JIC from mossberg, throw a nice light on it, and maybe the magpul furniture.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:57:50 AM EST
500 or 590a1.

I want a 590a1 badly.

The 500 is a lot cheaper though! Maybe throw in some ammo with a 500?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:01:33 PM EST
I am very close to picking up a 930 spx Blackwater edition.

Good ergo, great sites and holds 7.

I've owned a few pumps and operate them alright, but I'd hate to shortstroke one under stress.

I am in the camp that believes other options are superior for home defense.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:01:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dan1918A2:
500 or 590a1.

I want a 590a1 badly.

The 500 is a lot cheaper though! Maybe throw in some ammo with a 500?
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So did i. I looked long and hard for one. I've shot it two times in 5 years. I just don't shoot shotgun recreationaly.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:02:41 PM EST
590A1.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:08:03 PM EST
I'm a Remington man when it comes to shotguns. That's what I grew up with and that's what I know like the back of my hand.

870 or an auto like an 1187 or 1100 would be fine.

And get him some of that Federal Low Recoil Flight Control 00 buckshot to load it with.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:13:27 PM EST
I can't say enough good things about my 930 SPX. But being a mossberg, QC varies. No canted sights and it cycles/feeds everything Ive put in it. Neighbors has canted front sight (just ever so slight) and won't reliably cycle low brass.

My S12 used to be my favorite (fair amount of work and it absolutely eats everything) but I find myself grabbing the SPX whenever we go shoot shotgun.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:13:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Keib:

I am in the camp that believes other options are superior for home defense.
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Me too....but this seems to be the least expensive way for me to get the guy into the home defense game.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:14:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 12:14:50 PM EST by demon07nd]
870
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:16:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Veracity:



Me too....but this seems to be the least expensive way for me to get the guy into the home defense game.
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Originally Posted By Veracity:
Originally Posted By Keib:

I am in the camp that believes other options are superior for home defense.



Me too....but this seems to be the least expensive way for me to get the guy into the home defense game.


If your budget is ~$600, you could put him together a "lower end" AR pretty easily from a kit.

The 3 gun guys seem to like the Mossberg 930 quite a bit. I'd get that for a HD gun over an arm flailer.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:16:35 PM EST
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Pre-cerberus Remington 870.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:17:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By delemorte:
my 590A1 is tits. However it is heavy as fuck.

A 500 or 870 in any flavor you want will serve him well.
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I'm with this guy.

My pump shotgun of choice is Mossberg. The 590a1 is it.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:18:16 PM EST
Benelli Nova or Suprenova.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:24:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 12:34:19 PM EST by hotbiggun42]
Mossberg 590A1

This one




Fixed
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:25:37 PM EST
you're welcome

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:25:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:26:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:27:41 PM EST
870 no question


Benelli M1 Tactical if budget increases
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:28:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By demon07nd:
870





Don't just say 870 as some of them are pieces of shit . Provide a link
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:28:30 PM EST
Benelli Nova/Super Nova.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:29:11 PM EST
870 for ~$350-380, a $7 uncle mike's elastic stock shell holder, then buy him a bunch of cheap #7, some 00 buck and a couple boxes of slugs. Should be doable for under $450.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:32:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:35:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Veracity:



Me too....but this seems to be the least expensive way for me to get the guy into the home defense game.
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Originally Posted By Veracity:
Originally Posted By Keib:

I am in the camp that believes other options are superior for home defense.



Me too....but this seems to be the least expensive way for me to get the guy into the home defense game.



got to start somewhere
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:37:54 PM EST
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What is that?
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Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
you're welcome

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd311/220ackley/1201fp.jpg

What is that?



Berretta 1201 FP 18.5 w/ghost ring sights
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:38:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Mossberg 590A1

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why not get the extended magazine?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/46999
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:39:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 12:39:56 PM EST by zwvirtual]
Interstate Arms 982 Hawk. Chinese clone of the 870. Very good shotgun for about $200-$229

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:39:29 PM EST
I think a shotgun can be the perfect gun for home defense in certain situations.

Get a used 870P with the wood furniture.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:39:38 PM EST
Remington 887 "tactical" for the win.

Pump, weather resistant, screw in choke tubes, hi vi front sight, rail on receiver if you want a dot, extended tube, easy to mount a sling, forward rail section, and takes 3.5's so you can kill a goose if you want to. (comes with a plug for duck season too)

What's not to like? (other than it's ugly)

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:41:21 PM EST
I've always liked Mossbergs. I especially like the location of the safety.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:46:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:47:23 PM EST
Mossberg 500a1, DO IT!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:50:18 PM EST
Get him an AR

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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:55:52 PM EST
For $500-600 you could get him a lower end AR(Much better for HD than a birdgun).
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 12:56:06 PM EST
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why not get the extended magazine?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/46999
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Originally Posted By delemorte:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Mossberg 590A1

This one




Fixed


why not get the extended magazine?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/46999



Because it's big and heavy
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:01:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mag162:

Great now I need one!
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Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
Originally Posted By mag162:
Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
you're welcome

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd311/220ackley/1201fp.jpg

What is that?



Berretta 1201 FP 18.5 w/ghost ring sights

Great now I need one!



AIM has them from time to time. I bought three a year or so ago from them. When I give someone a shot gun, the 1201FP is what I give.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:15:30 PM EST
I have a 590A1 Blackwater edition and a 930 SPX Blackwater edition. They're fun to shoot and I've had no problems. My wife really enjoys to 930 and it's pretty much become her gun. I use my pistol AR for home defense. It's more maneuverable and holds more ammo. You can build a good AR setup for the specified amount, but if he's not into firearms I can see why you would want to get him a shotgun to start. What kind of solid is doing for you to want to drop $500, or is this a SSS situation?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:16:11 PM EST
Mossberg 930SPX
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:17:07 PM EST
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why not get the extended magazine?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/46999
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Originally Posted By delemorte:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Mossberg 590A1

This one




Fixed


why not get the extended magazine?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/46999


That's not an extended magazine. It's the 20" barrel compared to the 18" barrel in the link. The only benefit being that you can mount a bayonet on the 20"
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:21:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Balforin:
Remington 887 "tactical" for the win.

Pump, weather resistant, screw in choke tubes, hi vi front sight, rail on receiver if you want a dot, extended tube, easy to mount a sling, forward rail section, and takes 3.5's so you can kill a goose if you want to. (comes with a plug for duck season too)

What's not to like? (other than it's ugly)

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/381528000/381528729/pix801667486.jpg
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Do you own one of these 887s? If you do and you haven't had problems, count yourself as one of the fortunate few.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:25:33 PM EST
Besides the 870 and the 500, there are another couple of good shotguns that just don't have as much in the way of mall ninja stuff available.

Ithaca 37 Defense:


Downward eject and steel like an 870

Winchester 1200 Defender:


Aluminum like a 500, but faster to cycle due to action unlock
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:28:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:

Do you own one of these 887s? If you do and you haven't had problems, count yourself as one of the fortunate few.
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:
Originally Posted By Balforin:
Remington 887 "tactical" for the win.

Pump, weather resistant, screw in choke tubes, hi vi front sight, rail on receiver if you want a dot, extended tube, easy to mount a sling, forward rail section, and takes 3.5's so you can kill a goose if you want to. (comes with a plug for duck season too)

What's not to like? (other than it's ugly)

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/381528000/381528729/pix801667486.jpg

Do you own one of these 887s? If you do and you haven't had problems, count yourself as one of the fortunate few.

My buddy's gets a shell stuck every outing. He has to hold the fore end and slam the buttstock on something to open the action.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:30:31 PM EST
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That's not an extended magazine. It's the 20" barrel compared to the 18" barrel in the link. The only benefit being that you can mount a bayonet on the 20"
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Originally Posted By Army_of_One:
Originally Posted By delemorte:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Mossberg 590A1

This one




Fixed


why not get the extended magazine?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/46999


That's not an extended magazine. It's the 20" barrel compared to the 18" barrel in the link. The only benefit being that you can mount a bayonet on the 20"


And that's a bad thing?


You also get a extra round or two but didnt realize the first one was 18 inches.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:46:57 PM EST
While I am in the rifle HD camp, a shotgun still isn't terrible, especially for a buddy, and also for avoiding any weird state bans on rifles.

The other great thing, is a shotty as a gift doesn't have to break the bank to be a meaningful and useful gift.

870's and 590's are great, Mav 88's were the go to affordable shotgun for a long time.


The new Chinese ones are nice if a little rough around the edges, as well as the RIA M5, which I really like.


I also agree with what others said, that a Semi auto is the way to go. Less manual of arms, easier to operate, not having to worry about short stroking.
Just load it, stow it, if needed bust it out come off safe when ready and get to business.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:57:42 PM EST
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Remington 870, 20 gauge and a case of #4 BUCKSHOT. The only person that gets hurt is the BAD GUY.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 1:59:13 PM EST
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Do you own one of these 887s? If you do and you haven't had problems, count yourself as one of the fortunate few.
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:
Originally Posted By Balforin:
Remington 887 "tactical" for the win.

Pump, weather resistant, screw in choke tubes, hi vi front sight, rail on receiver if you want a dot, extended tube, easy to mount a sling, forward rail section, and takes 3.5's so you can kill a goose if you want to. (comes with a plug for duck season too)

What's not to like? (other than it's ugly)

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/381528000/381528729/pix801667486.jpg

Do you own one of these 887s? If you do and you haven't had problems, count yourself as one of the fortunate few.


Actually I do own one. And no, I have not had an issue with it yet. Granted it only has about 400 shells through it.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 2:04:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tombo192192:
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Can't.

I'm a NYer. We can't buy ARs anymore. We can't be trusted.
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