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Posted: 9/18/2005 5:25:39 PM EDT
My son is acting real shifty recently. He's been clearing the history on his pc and I need to know if anyone knows of a way I can see what he's been up to. Any program I can put in that he wont know about?

Any other tips?
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:27:57 PM EDT
Check to see if his palms are gettin hairy!
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:29:16 PM EDT
Confront him

I still remember those cold awkward embarrasing moments....
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:29:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By leadnbrass:
My son is acting real shifty recently. He's been clearing the history on his pc and I need to know if anyone knows of a way I can see what he's been up to. Any program I can put in that he wont know about?

Any other tips?



I'd put a tracking implant in his leg, and engrave a serial number on his arm.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:29:37 PM EDT
There's lots of tracking software out there for parents. You can buy filtering software that blocks many porn sites.

Also, if you have a router you can set it up to log the sites he's visiting.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:30:52 PM EDT
I have a keylogger that you can install anyplace in the HDD and have it email you info. IM me is interested.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:31:15 PM EDT
Go to any office wharehouse or computer store and ask for software to record keystrokes and web surfing.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:31:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JoeWang:
There's lots of tracking software out there for parents. You can buy filtering software that blocks many porn sites.

Also, if you have a router you can set it up to log the sites he's visiting.



how do I set the router up???
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:34:52 PM EDT
It may help to know what type of Windows he's running, etc. If it's NOT XP, then you might try actually going to the directory through "My Computer" instead of through the browser. Sometimes stuff will remain that the browser won't show you.

Also, any and all files can be opened in Notepad with the "Open With..." Command if you right click. Most of the time, all you'll see is gibberish, but sometimes there will be human readable data in the files.

Look and see when the last time the Cookies.dat ( I think that's the right file name ) has been updated and look for files that were created or modified in the same time frame. They'll probably be things related to your browser and may include log files, etc. that Explorer doesn't erase.

- Nw -
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:35:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Northern_Winter:
It may help to know what type of Windows he's running, etc. If it's NOT XP, then you might try actually going to the directory through "My Computer" instead of through the browser. Sometimes stuff will remain that the browser won't show you.

Also, any and all files can be opened in Notepad with the "Open With..." Command if you right click. Most of the time, all you'll see is gibberish, but sometimes there will be human readable data in the files.

Look and see when the last time the Cookies.dat ( I think that's the right file name ) has been updated and look for files that were created or modified in the same time frame. They'll probably be things related to your browser and may include log files, etc. that Explorer doesn't erase.

- Nw -



It is XP
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:36:01 PM EDT
Check out the cookie folder.. and the temp net files.

Sometimes kids get sloppy, and just delete the history.

Thinkin he's lookin up women?
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:37:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
Thinkin he's lookin up women?




maybe hes looking up men
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:37:24 PM EDT
dont let him clear the files, if he does take the comp.

I caught my son lookiung at porn a couple of weeks ago. no more internet for him.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:39:14 PM EDT
Just beat your kid and get it over with. He's got it coming for something.

ETA: what age group?
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:39:15 PM EDT
Just run his connection thru a proxy server and log all sites he visits, easy and the info is not on his computer, but the proxy server itself. You password protect the server and there you go.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:39:16 PM EDT
Any other tips?

Dude, your kid is downloading porn.

Why do parents feel the need to find proof that their kids are screwing up? You're not putting him on trial, you're whipping his ass.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:46:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/18/2005 5:49:23 PM EDT by Misery]
If the account is not an admin or power user, then have him log on as a regular user and you can apply changes to the folders where history and cookies/temp data are stored so he can delete it. You can also have it so he can't modify anything or delete anything.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:46:32 PM EDT
Most folks think that by deleting the internet history, they have deleted all traces of where they go on the computer. There are a few other areas you can look at. First, you might want to check on his internet cookies which will show you what sites he goes to and when. To do this go to "Tools", then to "Internet Options", once there click on "Settings" and then "View files". Scroll down this screen and it will show you all of the sites that were visited and when. If he is using "Google" or "Ask Jeeves" to search for things like "Nude celebs" or stuff like that, you can just check the keyword search box by hitting the drop down arrow in the search field or left click in the search field.

Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:48:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By leadnbrass:

Originally Posted By JoeWang:
There's lots of tracking software out there for parents. You can buy filtering software that blocks many porn sites.

Also, if you have a router you can set it up to log the sites he's visiting.



how do I set the router up???



It varies. I used to have a Linksys router, there was a logging option if you read through the help documents. Usually there is an admin web page for your router, just poke around.`
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:48:58 PM EDT
try using search for your c drive

I just learned a couple of things
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:55:13 PM EDT
A lot of those porn blocking software programs are pretty shitty. They either don't work very well, or they block so many things, you're hell bent even getting on the net at all. A lot of them require you to approve each site they visit, and therefore, you might as well just watch them the whole time.

I tried the Trend Micro 2005 Internet Security software I've been using for my anti-virus/anti-spyware to test the new URL blocking feature it comes with . A friend of mine was interesting in these software packages I mentioned above. I found the Trend Micro worked very well, and better than the other programs that were designed mainly for blocking kids from certain material.

It's a really good program with excellent features: www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&SID=16269&SP=10023&PN=51&PID=661822&DSP=&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 5:59:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:04:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Defcon:
Dude, a little tug and rub never hurt anyone.

Poor kid.



LOL
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:07:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
I have a keylogger that you can install anyplace in the HDD and have it email you info. IM me is interested.



In the HDD? Why would a keylogger need to be inside the HDD? Shouldn't it be in the keyboard, or attached to the keyboard i/o port, or in a motherboard slot?

Jim
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:11:58 PM EDT
Here's an idea, I don't know if it works or not, but it should.

Use the Backup utility in XP. Have it run an automatic backup every 10 minutes or so to a different location on disc. When he deletes the original entries, they should be stored in the new location.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:13:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
dont let him clear the files, if he does take the comp.

I caught my son lookiung at porn a couple of weeks ago. no more internet for him.


damn your no fun.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:15:02 PM EDT
Hide in his closet and jump out right when he blows his load!
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:16:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jquillen1985:
Hide in his closet and jump out right when he blows his load!


Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:19:05 PM EDT
Cause it's software.


Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
I have a keylogger that you can install anyplace in the HDD and have it email you info. IM me is interested.



In the HDD? Why would a keylogger need to be inside the HDD? Shouldn't it be in the keyboard, or attached to the keyboard i/o port, or in a motherboard slot?

Jim

Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:22:11 PM EDT
have you tried this?

right click on start>explore

then in the address bar of the browser type

C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temp

or

C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

and press enter and see what kind of goodies you find.

Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:25:54 PM EDT
Tag, big time....
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:28:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jquillen1985:
Hide in his closet and jump out right when he blows his load!




Wtf?!
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:32:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:

Originally Posted By jquillen1985:
Hide in his closet and jump out right when he blows his load!




Wtf?!



Gross!
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:35:00 PM EDT
Software keyloggers usually get detected as viruses by your AV software. A hardware keylogger doesn't have such a problem, but a very computer-savvy kid may wonder what that extra doo-dad is on the back of the PC. Because of that, it's vulnerable to being removed.

Spending a few minutes with the manual that came with your router should tell you how to enable logging features. If your router doesn't support it, then spend the money on one that does, like a Linksys IIRC.

Locking him down to a restricted user account in XP won't solve the problem, as he may still be able to use other browsers like Firefox, or third-party utilities designed to clear his tracks.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 6:48:05 PM EDT
That is true about software KL's but for some reason this one wasnt picked up on 3 machines.

Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
Software keyloggers usually get detected as viruses by your AV software. A hardware keylogger doesn't have such a problem, but a very computer-savvy kid may wonder what that extra doo-dad is on the back of the PC. Because of that, it's vulnerable to being removed.

Spending a few minutes with the manual that came with your router should tell you how to enable logging features. If your router doesn't support it, then spend the money on one that does, like a Linksys IIRC.

Locking him down to a restricted user account in XP won't solve the problem, as he may still be able to use other browsers like Firefox, or third-party utilities designed to clear his tracks.

Link Posted: 9/18/2005 7:21:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/18/2005 7:22:28 PM EDT by wise_jake]

Originally Posted By JBowles:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
dont let him clear the files, if he does take the comp.

I caught my son lookiung at porn a couple of weeks ago. no more internet for him.


damn your no fun.



That's right: "Son, Internet porn is just for Dad."

Link Posted: 9/18/2005 7:27:10 PM EDT
Tag
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 7:34:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ben70:
Just beat your kid and get it over with. He's got it coming for something.

ETA: what age group?



BEST. POST. EVER.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 7:35:08 PM EDT
just let the kid look at porn damn, i know damn well every man from the ages usually of 14 up has looked at porn. what is the big deal with your kid looking at porn?, just make sure he isnt looking at grown ass men
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 7:38:00 PM EDT
If you kill his internet access, you ought to at least "hide" a magazine for him to find. Pretend you never missed it, or let him find it in the trash or blowing down the street....he will think he has a secret porn stash, and his friends will think he is cool and meanwhile you already know about "planted porn". Now about the porn you didn't plant - no biggie there....geez.
You don't want the kid to be a sheltered sissy do you? Let him be a kid, grow, learn, etc. Sure, teach him "morals" but let him be.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 7:38:25 PM EDT
jesus let the boy be! He's being natural. If you confront him it might screw him up. Remember, this is a rite of passage for most of us, at least he's not smoking.

But hell, what do I know?
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 7:53:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mikejohnson:
If you kill his internet access, you ought to at least "hide" a magazine for him to find. Pretend you never missed it, or let him find it in the trash or blowing down the street....he will think he has a secret porn stash, and his friends will think he is cool and meanwhile you already know about "planted porn". Now about the porn you didn't plant - no biggie there....geez.
You don't want the kid to be a sheltered sissy do you? Let him be a kid, grow, learn, etc. Sure, teach him "morals" but let him be.



+ 0.5

He does need something to lust after, so he grows up right (looking at women and all that).



Make sure and tell us when you find out *what* he was lookin' at, so's we can diagnose this right.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 10:12:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
He does need something to lust after, so he grows up right (looking at women and all that).



Make sure and tell us when you find out *what* he was lookin' at, so's we can diagnose this right.



Just be careful if he is on chat or something - that "girl" is he chatting with could very well be some fat hairy guy with his dick in his hand.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 4:45:07 AM EDT
Another concern might be that the kid is doing file sharing via Kazaa, or some other program. Next thing you know, the parents are getting a lawsuit from the RIAA. Many thousands of people have been sued, and generally then end up settling and paying up several grand. One college kid ran a server that told one where the music files were (did NOT have the files on the system), and he got sued. Ended up paying $12,000 to the RIAA. Not worth it for some free music. But if the parents don't keep an eye on the kid's activities, they could be on the hook for whatever he does. Could get expensive.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 4:49:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By blackjack333:
have you tried this?

right click on start>explore

then in the address bar of the browser type

C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temp

or

C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

and press enter and see what kind of goodies you find.




or just type %temp% in the internet explorer toolbar
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 4:53:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hydroshok:

Originally Posted By jquillen1985:
Hide in his closet and jump out right when he blows his load!





+1!!

I just laughed so loud my dog started barking at me!!
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 4:53:18 AM EDT
need to get a "program" to view index.dat files. its real easy

do a search for it
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 4:58:58 AM EDT
just cause he's 29 and still living at home doesn't mean you can spy on him...

geeeeeeez.

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