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Posted: 12/11/2016 11:44:15 PM EDT
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There is some in the Optics & Sight Equipment - Used section here in the EE.
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Posted: 12/11/2016 11:49:13 PM EDT
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No budget? There are a ton of options. Did you want a duplex/crosshair reticle, or mil based? Capped or uncapped turrets? Do you want zero stops?
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Posted: 12/11/2016 11:54:10 PM EDT
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Leupold 1-4 with the Pigplex reticle. A lot of guys are using those in thick cover around here.
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Posted: 12/11/2016 11:55:44 PM EDT
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vortex makes a couple options
the newish Steiner P4i has been getting good praise. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:03:38 AM EDT
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I got a Leupold VX2 1-4x a few years ago for an AR.
Nice glass, light and short and almost a true 1x on the bottom. For $300 bucks I think it would be hard to beat for that kind of hunting. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:20:10 AM EDT
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I know exactly what you are saying about the snow on optics. When it really starts dumping, optics just suck.
So I set up an elk rifle like this, Marlin 45-70 gg, shitcan the factory rail. Brownells sells blank picatinny rail sections in various length/height combos. I tapped the factory rail holes two sizes larger, cause they were tiny, and recoil was not. Drilled the rail appropriately, hung a leop 2x with QR rings on it. When the snow flies, the scope comes off and the irons get used. I am going to put a 30mm 1x4 on there this year, the fov on the 2x is pretty tight. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:26:46 AM EDT
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No budget? There are a ton of options. Did you want a duplex/crosshair reticle, or mil based? Capped or uncapped turrets? Do you want zero stops? No need for uncapped turrets, mills or zero stops.. I have a 308 setup with all of that, this is strickly a 100 or less set up (Hence the fastfireIII I tried this year). Will be used for drives as well so I need to have little to no magnification for that, but would like some (no more than 4) to peer through the brush when Im sitting still.. Reticle should be clean, and not confusing.. no BDCs, or hash marks... No need for hold overs under 100.. I love the Eotech reticle, but I want something cleaner... Crosshair with red dot, or circle with dot prefered... |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:34:13 AM EDT
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I know exactly what you are saying about the snow on optics. When it really starts dumping, optics just suck. So I set up an elk rifle like this, Marlin 45-70 gg, shitcan the factory rail. Brownells sells blank picatinny rail sections in various length/height combos. I tapped the factory rail holes two sizes larger, cause they were tiny, and recoil was not. Drilled the rail appropriately, hung a leop 2x with QR rings on it. When the snow flies, the scope comes off and the irons get used. I am going to put a 30mm 1x4 on there this year, the fov on the 2x is pretty tight. What ever I get, I will have flip up covers like every other rifle I own... That damn Fastfire is awesome, but, u just cant see through cover, and any snow, or rain makes it useless.. I have a rail/ghost ring sight already installed on my 30-30, and I plan to use a detachable mount for the scope I choose so I cant use iron sights as well... |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:36:43 AM EDT
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I was given a Bushnell 1.5-4.5 about ten years ago, my mother bought it for me for Christmas. For a $100 riflescope it has been fantastic. It has held up on my Marlin Guide gun for a decade. Most of my optics are Nikon Monarchs or Burris but this little bushnell has been fantastic!
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:44:24 AM EDT
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Nikon Monarch. The one with the water buffalo on it. Light, cheap, clear, nice.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:47:20 AM EDT
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I was given a Bushnell 1.5-4.5 about ten years ago, my mother bought it for me for Christmas. For a $100 riflescope it has been fantastic. It has held up on my Marlin Guide gun for a decade. Most of my optics are Nikon Monarchs or Burris but this little bushnell has been fantastic! This was my Grandfathers rifle..... Im sure I could get away with a cheap scope ( hell my 12 gauge has a tasco on it, never failed, never missed a deer) but... Im going to put some quality glass on her... He always taught me to do things right, and not cut corners... "Better tool, better results".... God I miss him.. 
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Posted: 12/12/2016 10:14:36 AM EDT
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Oh sweet mother of Mary. Please put an ACOG on it and post pics
I don't have much to contribute cause I just shoot irons on my 30-30 |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 10:26:11 AM EDT
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Weaver Classic Extreme 1.5-4.5
I had one of these on my 6.8 and loved it. 30mm body and a great optic for the price. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 10:37:15 AM EDT
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Vortex Gen II 1x6, a little extra power when sizing up horns never hurts.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:05:16 AM EDT
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Either a Leupold 1-4x PigPlex or a Weaver 1-3x, either mounted as low as you can get them.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:14:54 AM EDT
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I never adjust a variable during a hunt. I would just get a 4x and practice looking through it. The only issue with higher magnification (within reason) is finding the beast in the first place, and you can learn that. This is not a tactical scope. You do not need to see what is around the beast, you just needs to bring the scope up on the vitals. Money buys better light gathering, as well as quality workmanship. That is why you spend $700 on binoculars not $70, so you can say holy crap, I can see better. Not to get variable binoculars or higher magnification binoculars.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:24:40 AM EDT
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I'd stick with the Leupold VX-R 1.25-4 X 20mm & Firedot circle reticle or the 2-7X33 with Ballistic Firedot
 
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:28:26 AM EDT
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I've always wanted a tube fed semi auto 30-30.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:31:50 AM EDT
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Either a Leupold 1-4x PigPlex or a Weaver 1-3x, either mounted as low as you can get them. Do they make this with an illuminated reticle? I see one in a 1.5 but not a 1....? |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:44:59 AM EDT
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I am using a Burris mtac on a 300blk sbr for ~100 yard and less hunting. After this season I am moving to a 1-6 leupold. We have antler point restrictions and I found the 1-4 was not quite enough for counting points on those hiding in the thick stuff.
VXR Patrol with fire dot if you want a 1-4. Leupold VX6 1-6 would be my choice. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 11:51:04 AM EDT
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You should look into the new Vortex Gen 2 PST. But if you don't want to wait, they already have a few options.
http://www.vortexoptics.com/category/riflescopes |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:02:12 PM EDT
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I'd stick with the Leupold VX-R 1.25-4 X 20mm & Firedot circle reticle or the 2-7X33 with Ballistic Firedot https://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/reticle/reticle-24-large.png https://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/reticle/reticle-26-large.png I like these... I was almost set on the pig plex until I started looking at some reviews, and videos... It actually says "PiG PLEX" in the reticle..... Fuck that, I want a nice clean sight picture, no words... |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:17:45 PM EDT
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I've been very pleased with my Nightforce NXS 1-4x24. It's small and rugged.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:26:43 PM EDT
[#24]
If you do drives, one of the wide field scopes would help getting on a moving target. I only hunt with Redfield Widefields, but they don't currently make those (that I know of).
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:37:33 PM EDT
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Weaver 1-3.
I have a vortex PST on an AR. It's bigger, bulkier, heavier than a lever gun calls for. Great scope but I'd much prefer the Weaver for your application. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 12:47:09 PM EDT
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I put a Sig 1-4 with the .300 blackout reticle on my blackout AR. Pretty happy with the locking turret design and motion activated illumination.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 4:20:24 PM EDT
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Weaver 1-3. I have a vortex PST on an AR. It's bigger, bulkier, heavier than a lever gun calls for. Great scope but I'd much prefer the Weaver for your application. Hmmm, Hows the glass? it seems a little on the cheap side... This is the look im going for some, something small with no frills... |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 4:53:04 PM EDT
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I like my trijicon tr-24 for a quick pointing scope. The glass is great and the reticle is simple. Great for the range listed.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 6:05:50 PM EDT
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Weaver 1-3. I have a vortex PST on an AR. It's bigger, bulkier, heavier than a lever gun calls for. Great scope but I'd much prefer the Weaver for your application. Perfect, I have a V3 on a Marlin 357. And an old steel Weaver K3 on my Marlin 45-70. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 6:10:01 PM EDT
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Leupold 1-4 with the Pigplex reticle. A lot of guys are using those in thick cover around here. This I love my PIG |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 6:11:03 PM EDT
[#31]
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Leupold 1-4 with the Pigplex reticle. A lot of guys are using those in thick cover around here. Sounds like a good choice. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 6:24:18 PM EDT
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Some of my lever guns wear Leupold 1.5-5x20mm variable scopes but others have peep sights. Weaver sells or used to sell a 1-3x20mm scope that works well but the eye relief isn't as good as a Leupold. Honestly if you want to eliminate the potential for rain or snow fucking your optics up then you need to learn how to use irons or peeps.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 6:27:50 PM EDT
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Some of my lever guns wear Leupold 1.5-5x20mm variable scopes but others have peep sights. Weaver sells or used to sell a 1-3x20mm scope that works well but the eye relief isn't as good as a Leupold. Honestly if you want to eliminate the potential for rain or snow fucking your optics up then you need to learn how to use irons or peeps. These are the only two companies that make low power variables that don't weigh damn near a pound or more. For a lever gun, I would try to borrow somebody's heavy LPV and mount it on there before I bought one. Lots of these set-ups push 2lbs after they're mounted. I would think that would be a real problem on a lever gun. Pay careful attention to your mount's weight as well. You might find more options in a 2-7x. I use the Weaver 1-3x on a Savage 24 that sees a lot of squirrel hunting use. I like it. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 6:29:16 PM EDT
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I put a Sig 1-4 with the .300 blackout reticle on my blackout AR. Pretty happy with the locking turret design and motion activated illumination. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/94261.JPG Yeah I know form follows function, but that would look so wrong on a 30-30. I would look for something a little more "classic" and less "tactical", but that's just me. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 6:33:38 PM EDT
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I would look at scopes with reticles calibrated for 7.62x39, since .30-30 & 7.62x39 both have similar trajectories.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 7:00:06 PM EDT
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Yeah I know form follows function, but that would look so wrong on a 30-30. I would look for something a little more "classic" and less "tactical", but that's just me. This is exactly what Im trying to accomplish.. A Nice clean classic look... |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 1:13:21 PM EDT
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I would look at scopes with reticles calibrated for 7.62x39, since .30-30 & 7.62x39 both have similar trajectories. Anyone have and examples? I have plenty of time to shop around as I wont "need" this until next deer season.. |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 1:18:11 PM EDT
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Classic Weaver K-4
Sorry, didn't see 1-4 ................ |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 1:20:35 PM EDT
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The only thing that comes to mind is the Primary Arms scopes with their ACSS 7.62x39/.300blk reticle. There are others out there, but they're not coming to mind.
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Posted: 12/13/2016 1:28:52 PM EDT
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The classic look on a lever gun would be the Weaver 1-3x in original-style Weaver low rings (extra-low rings, if you can find them) on Weaver bases. No illuminated reticle, but it looks tidy, works well, and is light weight (about 3/4 pound all-up), so it doesn't unduly upset the balance of the rifle.
You'll need a hammer spur, too. Since it looks more "old school", I'm partial to the flat type: GPC hammer spur |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 1:39:31 PM EDT
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The classic look on a lever gun would be the Weaver 1-3x in original-style Weaver low rings (extra-low rings, if you can find them) on Weaver bases. No illuminated reticle, but it looks tidy, works well, and is light weight (about 3/4 pound all-up), so it doesn't unduly upset the balance of the rifle. You'll need a hammer spur, too. Since it looks more "old school", I'm partial to the flat type: GPC hammer spur This. I have a Weaver v3 1-3x on my Marlin 336 mounted in Warne QD low rings on a EGW rail. Perfect set up for magnification on a levergun. The Weaver V3 gives good glass (particularly for levergun ranges) and is light and trim. It seems by keeping the upper end to 3X Weaver has kept the 1X low end very close to true 1X. In my brightly lit living room I can tell the difference between naked eye and 1X on the scope, but it's minor and not noticeable or a problem for me in actual field conditions. |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 1:41:11 PM EDT
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Primary arms 1-6 300AAC/7.62x39
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-1-6x24mm-sfp-scope-w-acss-300blk-7-62x39-reticle-pa1-6x24sfp-acss-300bo or the new Bushnell 1-4 AK optic http://bushnell.com/tactical/riflescopes/ak-optics/ak-1-4x-24mm Or the VXR 1.5-4 firedot that has already been mentioned. The 1.5 power is close enough to 1x that you won't be thrown off (in my opinion) |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 2:41:16 PM EDT
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This. I have a Weaver v3 1-3x on my Marlin 336 mounted in Warne QD low rings on a EGW rail. Perfect set up for magnification on a levergun. The Weaver V3 gives good glass (particularly for levergun ranges) and is light and trim. It seems by keeping the upper end to 3X Weaver has kept the 1X low end very close to true 1X. In my brightly lit living room I can tell the difference between naked eye and 1X on the scope, but it's minor and not noticeable or a problem for me in actual field conditions. I wish this had a german #4 reticle, or something else... Still, the price tag? can you really get a solid hunting optic for under 200? seems cheap, glass cant be that great... |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 2:47:29 PM EDT
[#44]
I like the Weaver 4X but look at what EE has. A used Leupold would be good.
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Posted: 12/13/2016 2:58:10 PM EDT
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I wish this had a german #4 reticle, or something else... Still, the price tag? can you really get a solid hunting optic for under 200? seems cheap, glass cant be that great... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This. I have a Weaver v3 1-3x on my Marlin 336 mounted in Warne QD low rings on a EGW rail. Perfect set up for magnification on a levergun. The Weaver V3 gives good glass (particularly for levergun ranges) and is light and trim. It seems by keeping the upper end to 3X Weaver has kept the 1X low end very close to true 1X. In my brightly lit living room I can tell the difference between naked eye and 1X on the scope, but it's minor and not noticeable or a problem for me in actual field conditions. I wish this had a german #4 reticle, or something else... Still, the price tag? can you really get a solid hunting optic for under 200? seems cheap, glass cant be that great... I also wish the reticle was either a #4 or similar to the Leupold extra heavy duplex. Overall the best adjective I can use for this scope is "adequate". It is adequate glass for hunting at a very reasonable price. Flare is okay, sharpness is okay, distortion is okay, etc. It's a B-/C+ optic - perfectly serviceable but not outstanding. After hunting it for two seasons I'm happy with it, but my lever gun only comes out for hunting in areas where most shots will be inside of 100 yards. And I bought the rifle used on the cheap and didn't want to spend a whole lot. If you have more budget, then I'd consider either Leupold VX-2 1-4, which comes with a heavy duplex and I believe a German #4. Or even the Leupold VX-6 1-6. |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 3:32:24 PM EDT
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I have a Leupold VX-6, 1-6x24, with illuminated reticle on my early 1980's Glennfield 30-30.
Since it has true 1x, and a very thin eyepiece border, it's like a heads up display with both eyes open and the illuminated reticle. Dialed down to 1x, you can see the rifle barrel in the scope. Dialed up to 6x, makes sight in at 100 yards easy. It's bright enough to see well in Blue Ridge mountain woods 1/2 hour past sunset on a 100% overcast day. Eye relief stays constant at all powers. Looks good on a lever action with Warne fixed rings and a Warne rail. You can get a Custom Dial System made for your rifle and I am pretty sure that the first set of dials is included in purchase price |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 3:59:03 PM EDT
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Leupold 1.25-4 is gonna be hard to beat.
30-30 lever actions are thin rifles, and a nice trim scope just looks 'right' . As opposed to some of the mall ninja tacticool scopes some folks think belong on every rifle known to man. |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 7:06:12 PM EDT
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Leupold 1.25-4 is gonna be hard to beat. 30-30 lever actions are thin rifles, and a nice trim scope just looks 'right' . As opposed to some of the mall ninja tacticool scopes some folks think belong on every rifle known to man. I agree. You don't need a huge objective or more than 4 power on a rifle that you will use 1/2 hour before sunrise or 1/2 hour after sunset at 100 yards or less. The illuminated reticle is nice as you might lose your reticle cross on dark game in a hollow even when the field of the scope is plenty bright to see everything around it. |
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Posted: 12/13/2016 8:14:31 PM EDT
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I agree. You don't need a huge objective or more than 4 power on a rifle that you will use 1/2 hour before sunrise or 1/2 hour after sunset at 100 yards or less. The illuminated reticle is nice as you might lose your reticle cross on dark game in a hollow even when the field of the scope is plenty bright to see everything around it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Leupold 1.25-4 is gonna be hard to beat. 30-30 lever actions are thin rifles, and a nice trim scope just looks 'right' . As opposed to some of the mall ninja tacticool scopes some folks think belong on every rifle known to man. I agree. You don't need a huge objective or more than 4 power on a rifle that you will use 1/2 hour before sunrise or 1/2 hour after sunset at 100 yards or less. The illuminated reticle is nice as you might lose your reticle cross on dark game in a hollow even when the field of the scope is plenty bright to see everything around it. I'm going to agree with all of this. I put a Leupold VX-R 1.25-4 x 20mm scope with FireDot 4 reticle on my .30-30 Marlin 336. This gun is used for the same purposes that you describe yours will be used for. In my opinion, this scope is perfect in this role. I've been nothing but pleased with mine. |
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Posted: 12/17/2016 12:40:13 AM EDT
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I'm going to agree with all of this. I put a Leupold VX-R 1.25-4 x 20mm scope with FireDot 4 reticle on my .30-30 Marlin 336. This gun is used for the same purposes that you describe yours will be used for. In my opinion, this scope is perfect in this role. I've been nothing but pleased with mine. Does anyone make a illuminated #4? |
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