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Posted: 3/10/2010 12:17:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2010 12:18:00 AM EDT by Kstanton]



Sorry about the terrible pics. Don't have my camera at the moment. But I digress.

It's an old beater Montgomery Ward 520 series. I think from about 1941. It more or less never leaves my trunk. It is unique in a lot of ways, and is based on a Browning design. It had police department markings which suggest it was a riot gun back in the day (probably sat in someone's trunk for 30 years.) It's 5+1 12ga.



The best part of this shotgun is it's VERY quick and easy to break down.



Thus making it easier to take nearly anywhere (Like work ) without being seen or noticed.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 12:18:43 AM EDT
Very cool!!
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 12:18:59 AM EDT
cool, neat that you can fit a full size shotgun in a brief case.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 12:23:31 AM EDT
I love, LOVE take down guns.

That's a classy looking Shotgun to boot!


My old Win. M1912 riot gun fits in a Jan sport backpack, gotta love serious firepower in benign opaque wrappers.
Looks like I need to cruise goodwill for briefcases.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 12:45:18 AM EDT
Sweet.

Does the magazine tube stay full with ammo when it's broken down like that?
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 12:47:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JarheadChiro:
Sweet.

Does the magazine tube stay full with ammo when it's broken down like that?


Unfortunately it doesn't naturally. You can however do it yourself with a little creativity.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:07:04 AM EDT
You could do this with a short barreled take-down Winchester 97 also.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:13:34 AM EDT
I like!
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:13:44 AM EDT
I like!
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:18:40 AM EDT
I want one. How much would and example like that run these days?
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:21:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By By_the_Bayonet:
I want one. How much would and example like that run these days?


I've seen them for 150 bucks.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:34:45 AM EDT
Awesome. Found a similar one on gunbroker for that much. Thank you.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:35:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2010 1:36:30 AM EDT by Kstanton]
Originally Posted By By_the_Bayonet:
Awesome. Found a similar one on gunbroker for that much. Thank you.


You'll love it. They're built like tanks. They load strangely (the lift keeps them in the magazine) but they're tons of fun.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:48:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kstanton:
Originally Posted By By_the_Bayonet:
Awesome. Found a similar one on gunbroker for that much. Thank you.


You'll love it. They're built like tanks. They load strangely (the lift keeps them in the magazine) but they're tons of fun.


That's so you can keep it loaded with lead, then dump it quickly when you hear the game warden.


Or so my Grandfather says.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:48:39 AM EDT
Is it a concealed weapon if it is broken down like that, and in a briefcase or whatever?

Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:50:43 AM EDT
Sweet! love the briefcase option.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:52:18 AM EDT
Very nice
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:53:04 AM EDT
That is very cool.
Like the briefcase application

Thanks for posting
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 6:32:08 AM EDT
Cool. Can you tell us more about how they break down? Are all 520's take down models?
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 6:32:42 AM EDT
Do want.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 6:41:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Blitzkreig:
Cool. Can you tell us more about how they break down? Are all 520's take down models?


You pull the front hand guard back, unscrew the magazine, pull the barrel/magazine down, and there ya go. It's very easy.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 7:27:56 AM EDT
I'm doing the same thing with a Winchester '97.
My barrel assembly is the same length as the butt/action.
Fits in a nice lil pouch....slick.

You wouldn't expect a 12 gauge pump to come out of
something like that now would you......
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 7:30:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2010 7:31:15 AM EDT by tactmaster]
Montgomery Ward, wow, now that brings back memories. I haven't seen one it at least 15 years, and I never remember them selling guns. I want one!
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 9:46:36 AM EDT
I believe the 520 was manufactured for Monkey-Wards by Savage/Stevens.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 9:52:18 AM EDT
It really is built like a tank. I have one from 1922. Mine is a 16 guage though.

Apparently it was popular in Vietnam too.

Link Posted: 3/10/2010 9:56:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2010 9:57:41 AM EDT by The_Insider]
The 520 is based on a 1905 John M. Browning patent. Modified later into the 620 which essentially was a streamlined, no-rear-hump version. 520 made through 1930 and saw much action WWII - VN. I have two in civies and one 520-30 ord-marked riot gun.

Built like a tank and generally cheap when you find them. All steel and walnut. No Al or plastic or birch.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 10:13:11 AM EDT
I have a Westernfield brand .20 ga. from MW. It is actually a Mossberg 500.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 10:45:25 AM EDT
pretty cool nothing on gb though..
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 10:57:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RevolverRO:
I believe the 520 was manufactured for Monkey-Wards by Savage/Stevens.


I thought so, but I didn't want to assume that and have 50 posts telling me how stupid I am
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 10:58:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By grayparatrooper:
pretty cool nothing on gb though..


Try Stevens 520
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 11:10:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By xylo:
Is it a concealed weapon if it is broken down like that, and in a briefcase or whatever?



Unloaded & in a nonfunctional state. Under MO law it's good to go legally.
Even if somehow the mag tube could be loaded (drill a couple of small holes in the mag tube & use a cotter pin, etc to hold shells in place) it'd still be OK.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 11:41:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gomulego:
It really is built like a tank. I have one from 1922. Mine is a 16 guage though.

Apparently it was popular in Vietnam too.

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_10_2008/post-1759-1224736060.jpg


I gave My dad a Stevens 520 a few years ago and included that copy of American Rifleman.
"Shotguns of the Vietnam war"?
He loved it and it looks great next to his M1 in the safe.

Link Posted: 3/10/2010 11:54:53 AM EDT

the front fell off......



Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:27:45 PM EDT

Tag.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:38:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RarestRX:

Tag.


Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:48:29 PM EDT
I want need one of those.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:49:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BushBoar:
Originally Posted By RarestRX:

Tag.




What kills me is I just bought a folding knife on Monday because of a thread here, now I'm scouring fucking RiverofGuns, Gunbroker, Auction arms, and GunsAmerica for this shotgun.

DAMN YOU GD!

I swear I have no willpower.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 1:59:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By BushBoar:
Originally Posted By RarestRX:

Tag.




What kills me is I just bought a folding knife on Monday because of a thread here, now I'm scouring fucking RiverofGuns, Gunbroker, Auction arms, and GunsAmerica for this shotgun.

DAMN YOU GD!

I swear I have no willpower.


I don't blame ya. I had to buy it when I saw it.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:01:08 PM EDT
this is a very cool shotgun.

(also ZS represent :))
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:37:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kstanton:
Originally Posted By RevolverRO:
I believe the 520 was manufactured for Monkey-Wards by Savage/Stevens.


I thought so, but I didn't want to assume that and have 50 posts telling me how stupid I am


I believe Stevens was using the Ranger brand name for the MW shotties.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:54:11 PM EDT
Pretty cool.

Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:55:03 PM EDT

Hypothetical:

If this is broken down into two pieces, without the magazine being loaded, is it still a "weapon"?

"Are there any weapons in the car?"

"Nope."

Can I bring it into NY and NJ in the trunk in 2 pieces?

Hmmmm....
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:58:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RarestRX:

Hypothetical:

If this is broken down into two pieces, without the magazine being loaded, is it still a "weapon"?

"Are there any weapons in the car?"

"Nope."

Can I bring it into NY and NJ in the trunk in 2 pieces?

Hmmmm....


While I don't know the legalities... I can say you could have this guy assembled in no time. Snap it in, spin the magazine tube and you're ready to roll.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 2:59:50 PM EDT
Very nice.

HH
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 4:23:28 PM EDT
Here's some info for everyone considering one of these from an old school Army Ordnance
guy who many of the better informed would know. I emailed him how this design would
stack up to a '97 Winchester and here is his reply:

Dave, There is no comparison, The 520-30 & the 620 share the same mechanism, the 620 being streamlined to look like the Model 12 Win (not!!!) The shotgun works well when new and I find no terrible complaints in the US manuals of the era, to date, however the spring tail that engages the slide release has become brittle and will fail. This failure won't allow the slide lock to disengage after the round is fired. I'd imagine, with spring making of the era, this was a problem at the time. Our shop took in 4000+++ shotguns in Viet Nam for TI
before issue, most were M12 & M97's about a third were Savage spawn! I think we used up the last of the WWII parts supply of this #%%&*@@* spring that our RIA tech reps could dig up for us. (@@##$$%**&&^%$##)(!!!).
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 4:42:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2010 4:42:15 PM EDT by Bram]
I like it.

Thanks for sharing.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 4:47:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ten-ring:
Very cool!!


Very, very cool!!
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 5:47:02 PM EDT
When I was a young policeman in 1969, we had them in the squads. They were replaced by 870's.
Link Posted: 3/10/2010 6:12:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RarestRX:

Hypothetical:

If this is broken down into two pieces, without the magazine being loaded, is it still a "weapon"?

"Are there any weapons in the car?"

"Nope."

Can I bring it into NY and NJ in the trunk in 2 pieces?

Hmmmm....


You can bring it into NYS with no problem, regardless of whether it's in 2 pieces or not.

NYC is another matter, and I'm willing to bet that it'd be a problem either way.
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