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Posted: 2/8/2006 3:53:15 PM EDT
Some of you may remember the courageous act of Mark Wilson, a CCW holder who confonted a gunman wielding an AK-47-type weapon (could have been SAR-1, SAR-2, unknown) that had already killed his ex-wife. Mr. Wilson traded fire with the gunman and was killed. However, his actions allowed the boy to escape and live. Here is an article about Mr. Wilson's act.
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Sad, I think failure drills should be standard practice. Similar thing happened to me when I lived in Houston. Heard gunshots at my apt complex, this was right after columbine. Ran downstairs with my G27 in my jacket and luckily never had to use it. Some guy shot another guy who was banging his wife ~8 times with a 9mm. It was a weird seeing bubbles come out of his chest when we were giving him CPR. Died before paramedics got there. Shooter just sat there on the steps and cried.
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We should all learn from his experience and have a long rifle plan.
Good man, good post. |
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NO disrespect intended to him, but if he grabbed a rifle instead, it might have ended better for him.
I hope I would do similar in a situation like that. |
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After that happened, I started keeping a rifle handy (home and car) in addition to a pistol.
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Having the balls to step out in front of an AK and trade fire is a hell of a lot more than most Internet Heros do in their wet dreams. I only hope that I would react similarly, but until the shooting starts, you never know...
to Mr Wilson( even a year later) for having serious stones |
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God Bless Him.
HEADSHOTS mean all I say is... " I was in fear for my life. I want my lawyer." |
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Bingo. Mr. Wilson was one hell of a brave man to face down an AK with a handgun. Many talk tough, but when the shit starts flying is only when you'll know if you have what it takes. I can honestly say I don't know if I would have been able to do what he did. I'd like to think I was brave enough, but goddamn.... While it would have been more ideal to grab a rifle, it may not have been possible at the time, we'll probably never know. Either way, he saved that kid's life and countless others. God bless Mark Wilson. |
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From Jeff Cooper's Commentaries
Vol. 1, No. 1 June 1993 As time passes we discover that there are a good many readers who have not been to school and who are puzzled by our reference to "The Mozambique Drill." I added The Mozambique Drill to the modern doctrine after hearing of an experience of a student of mine up in Mozambique when that country was abandoned. My friend was involved in the fighting that took place around the airport of Laurenco Marquez. At one point, Mike turned a corner was confronted by a terrorist carrying an AK47. The man was advancing toward him at a walk at a range of perhaps 10 paces. Mike, who was a good shot, came up with his P35 and planted two satisfactory hits, one on each side of the wishbone. He expected his adversary to drop, but nothing happened, and the man continued to close the range. At this point, our boy quite sensibly opted to go for the head and tried to do so, but he was a little bit upset by this time and mashed slightly on the trigger, catching the terrorist precisely between the collar bones and severing his spinal cord. This stopped the fight. Upon analysis, it seemed to me that the pistolero should be accustomed to the idea of placing two shots amidships as fast as he can and then being prepared to change his point of aim if this achieves no results. Two shots amidships can be placed very quickly and very reliably and they will nearly always stop the fight providing a major-caliber pistol is used and the subject is not wearing body armor. However, simply chanting "two in the body, one in the head" oversimplifies matters, since it takes considerably longer to be absolutely sure of a head shot than it does to be quite sure of two shots in the thorax. The problem for the shooter is to change his pace, going just as fast as he can with his first pair, then, pausing to observe results or lack thereof, he must slow down and shoot precisely. This is not easy to do. The beginner tends to fire all three shots at the same speed, which is either too slow for the body shots or too fast for the head shot. This change of pace calls for concentration and coordination which can only be developed through practice. Mike Rouseau was later killed in action in the Rhodesian War. May he rest in peace! http://harris.dvc.org.uk/jeff/ |
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Has it been a year already?
He has my utmost respect, he's a hero AFAIK |
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More gun rag BS. Maybe back in 1993 people when it was easier for Cooper to write all kinds of shit people would have bought this. Also, there's nothing overly complicated with learning the failure drill. I don't shoot according to a metronome, don't know anyone that does. Double tap CoM then 1 to the head. The only trick is the head will move in real life as opposed to training with a B34 target. |
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I guess I will be the first to mention that Wilson unfortunately did not use any cover or concealment.
I recall seeing the picture of Wilson's body face down in the middle of the street, far from any sort of cover. |
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Not at all. Cooper originally wrote the newsletter for his students. It was a way to keep up with things. The story is true and has been told many times before, even in person to me a dozen years before this was first published. No BS. As to skill, you may think you are very good with a pistol and this is so simple a drill, but I have done "The Mozambique Drill” right in front of Cooper after much practice. His comment was, “That’s too slow.” His standards are very high, but the end result is you more likely to be alive when the smoke clears. |
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Not doubting the story but the assertion that "Two shots amidships can be placed very quickly and very reliably and they will nearly always stop the fight providing a major-caliber pistol is used." My point is I don't think learning a failure drill is as hard as he's trying to make it sound. You don't need to be Wyatt Earp for it to be effective, that doubletap buys you a little time. |
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You obviously have not done it in front of Cooper while he was grading you. |
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b-27's dont move.. bad guys do. |
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My objective wouldn't be to impress him or win IDPA, just learn it enough to be practical. The 2 aren't necessarily the same, as you said, he has high standards. And even if you miss the head shot in a failure drill, you are no worse than if you just stuck with a double tap. |
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Hence my statement above: "The only trick is the head will move in real life as opposed to training with a B34 target" |
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Guys! Enough with the thread hijack. This is not a place to debate the effectiveness of The Mozambique Drill. Have some respect for chrissakes. |
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Let's not tarnish Wilson's name or undermine his competence. Wilson was behind a truck for cover and was wounded by the rifle rounds, possibly which penetrated the truck. The gunman then walked over to Wilson who lay wounded in the street and fired several shots into Wilson's head to kill him. The truck Wilson was using for cover was the gunman's, who drove away in the truck after killing Wilson. Here's an eyewitness account: Link Rick Wilbanks, a Tyler lawyer, witnessed all but the first few shots of the event while eating lunch at Don Juan's. He saw another man with a gun, later identified as Mark Wilson, a former shooting range owner, hiding behind the gunman's parked truck. "The shooter couldn't see him, but I could see both of them," Wilbanks said. "When the shooter stopped to reload, the guy behind the pickup came up and fired." Wilbanks said he thought to himself, "I hope he is accurate." "He hit him twice, he hit him bad, but he didn't kill him," he said. The gunman, David Arroyo, was wearing body armor. Wilbanks saw Arroyo turn around and fire at Wilson. Then the shooter got in his truck to leave. "He did it unhurriedly and drove off slow. I could have run and kept up with him," Wilbanks said. "I think he was expecting to be killed by the cops, but no one but Wilson took a shot at him. That bugs me." Wilbanks went to Wilson's aid after the gunman left the scene. "It looked like he was hit in the back of the left side of his head and it went out the other side. There was a gallon of blood out there," he said. "I thought he was dead, it looked like he was dead, but then he moved a little. He was alive." The shooter's victim was already down when Brandon Malone got a good look through the window of a downtown restaurant. He was shocked by what he saw next. The gunman walked over and shot the downed man again and again. |
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The accounts and stories lack the the details of what range Wilson began shooting at. From the drawing of the area it could have been as much as 50 yards. More than likely it was from across the street and into the parkinglot, a bit far for most pistol shots. Typical pistol sights are larger than a human head at those distances so a headshot would have been difficult. Does anyone one have more details? |
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Yep, good stuff there. |
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With all due respect if he used more cover and tactics and less balls he might have lived and saved the day. |
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It sounds like Wilson did everything right, except plan that the shooter could have been wearing a bullet proof vest. Until I read about this story, I would have not even calculated the bullet-proof vest possibility into the equation of my response. I mean....how ofter do you hear of criminals wearing bullet proof vests when they commission a crime? The only other time I can think is the LA Bank Robbery. |
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I just took my CHL renewal class. I swear the guy said they are supposed to DEDUCT for headshots now, per DPS. Maybe I heard wrong but I definitely know they don't count them as hits. |
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Can you get the AP ammo for it though? |
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When congress stops blocking access to the SS190, that might be a good idea. SARAH BRADY:"WHY DO YOU NEED AP!!?!?!?!" REMEMBER MARK WILSON, YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH!" |
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