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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:58:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 7:59:57 AM EST by renotse]
Navy Stripped Kerry Of Security Clearance!!!!!!


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Kerry Lost Security Clearance!

Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerry’s Navy security clearance.

Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.

Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.

Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.

Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the “Peace Talks.” While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.

These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.

Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didn’t want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.

However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerry’s security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

Today, he couldn’t get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:00:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:00:22 AM EST by Zaphod]
[DUh]

So what? What does a security clearance have to do with being President?

[/DUh]

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:01:42 AM EST
So, why does this shit not weigh in on the election? This guy should be in jail, but we only have a few conservative journals printing this stuff.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:03:13 AM EST

BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!!!

BUSH IS HITLER!!!

NO WAR FOR HALLIBURTON!!!

ABB!!!

ABB!!!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:08:04 AM EST
I hope the GOP doesn't push this stuff to hard at this point. I think they've gotten all the mileage out of it that they can.

Push these bullshit "nuisance" comments instead. And kick some ass in Fallujah before the election.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:09:35 AM EST
One of my soldiers lost his clearance and he got a relief for cause NCOER.
If Kerry held a TS and lied about a contact with agents of a foreign country, especially a belligerant, he should have been court martialed and jailed.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:17:20 AM EST
I thought they took my clearence the day I left active duty.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:21:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
One of my soldiers lost his clearance and he got a relief for cause NCOER.
If Kerry held a TS and lied about a contact with agents of a foreign country, especially a belligerant, he should have been court martialed and jailed.



Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:27:32 AM EST
Isn't sKerry on the Senate Intelligence Committee?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:33:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:33:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
One of my soldiers lost his clearance and he got a relief for cause NCOER.
If Kerry held a TS and lied about a contact with agents of a foreign country, especially a belligerant, he should have been court martialed and jailed.






Noncomissioned Officer Evaluation Report.

Relief for cause means his soldier was a dipshit for at least a short time, but it had significan't impact upon the mission.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:33:44 AM EST
Some of the details of the report may be a little bit inaccurate.

Do they mean he traveled to Paris during his remaining inactive reserve obligation? And if so, then why did he still have a TS clearance? On top of that, how is he on the Senate Intel Committee without a TS+ clearance?

It's not adding up and I'm not sure I'd count it as credible.

Flame away if I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:35:22 AM EST
I didn't know Vietnam was sovereign in 1091?

Honestly - it's a post on freerepublic.com.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:35:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
One of my soldiers lost his clearance and he got a relief for cause NCOER.
If Kerry held a TS and lied about a contact with agents of a foreign country, especially a belligerant, he should have been court martialed and jailed.






Noncomissioned Officer Evaluation Report.



Ah! an eval. Got it.


Relief for cause means his soldier was a dipshit for at least a short time, but it had significan't impact upon the mission.


Oh, yeah! Same term we used in the yacht club!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:38:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:39:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Combine this with the thread earlier on his discharge and pieces start to fall into place and why he will not sign 180. If this goes live it won't be by the Bush folks, but rather through 527s like the Swifties... If this is true, it is devastating.



Nah. My Daddy will still vote for him. If this news is true, and if the word gets out, he might get 100,000 fewer votes...I doubt it.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:51:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:07:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 10:08:43 AM EST by KA3B]
Your clearance is still valid for 24 months after you leave active duty military service.
You lose "the need to know" for your level of clearence once you leave your job or position.



Originally Posted By 6172crew:
I thought they took my clearence the day I left active duty.

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:22:06 AM EST
1091......

1091 Nov William Rufus: Renews agreement with Scots


Originally Posted By renotse:
Almost a year later, in April 1091,

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