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Posted: 9/22/2004 3:22:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 3:57:32 PM EST by Slufstuff]
A lot of people have been asking about damage at the Air Museum. Here is a good picture of main building and storage ramp. Large picture file from weather service damage survey.

http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/ivan/PHOTOS/26285641.jpg

If anybody can make it a hot link, be my guest!

WARNING: very large file, if you do not have a high speed internet connection, skip the hot link and go to the edited pictures below.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:23:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By Slufstuff:
A lot of people have been asking about damage at the Air Museum. Here is a good picture of main building and storage ramp. Large picture file from weather service damage survey.

HOT LINK
If anybody can make it a hot link, be my guest!

Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:24:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 3:25:08 PM EST by KA3B]
That photo is HUGE!
Don't make the image hot it, I'll do some editing and host it.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:27:14 PM EST
Could have been alot worse. Most of the aircraft on display seem to be in good shape, a few not so good.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:28:27 PM EST
The image is 3MEG.
All I can see is extensive damage to a hanger in the lower right side of the picture.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:31:17 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:32:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 3:35:18 PM EST by KA3B]






Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:35:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 3:35:49 PM EST by KA3B]
Motherfuckers!!

The R4D-6L, "Que Sera Sera", the first aricraft to land at the South Pole got assfucked.

That's plane that's missing it's wing in the second photo.

And it dosen't even belong to the Navy, it belongs to the Smithsonion!

FUCK FUCK FUCK!!

Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:44:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:44:50 PM EST
That sucks, I was there in March, it's a fantastic museum. Highly recommend visiting.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:48:14 PM EST
"It'll buff right out"

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:54:43 PM EST
repairable, possible yes. practical? i would say no.

Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:57:28 PM EST
Read all about 'Bert, Ernie and Christine here:
www.blueangels.org/Aircraft/Fatbert/Fatbert.html#Eleven

The new and old Fat Albert:




Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Don't freak. The wing's there. It can be repaired. Be sure of it.

What surprises me is that the Blue Angels' Fat Albert C-130 is there. I presume they retired it and got another one?

Nothing's unrepairable. That facility got off fairly easy, actually.

CJ

Link Posted: 9/22/2004 3:59:27 PM EST
Ahh a few missing wings no big deal.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:07:24 PM EST
The bad thing is, the museum is/was planning to break ground soon on a new wing which would have gotten Que Sera, and some of the other rarer planes indoors out of harms way. The main museum building suffered only minor damage, mainly a bunch of roof leaks.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:09:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Kharn:
"It'll buff right out"

Kharn



Nothing Bondo can't fix.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:09:42 PM EST
Not great but it's sure not as bad as I was being led to believe. Tried to explain to the wife why airplanes do better in high winds than other things. Most are built to land and take-off in speeds like those winds. So the wind in and of itself isn't too bad a problem. What they get is they get to lift-off speed and then start really stressing tie-downs and tie-down points.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:25:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 4:26:56 PM EST by Gopher]
If you look at the main building you will see an F-14 as a gate guardian. The aircraft to the left of the building is Navy 1, the plane President Bush landed on the carrier in. Hard to tell from that photo but it doesn't look like it suffered much damage. I was there in July and they were getting ready to take it inside to display then.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:36:42 PM EST
It can be repaired and made airworthy again if there is any interest.

The break is away from the heavy carythru structure, a replacement spar or repairs to the damaged wing are not that difficult. The depot overhaul manuals probably list the proper inspection and repair proceedure for this type damage.

It is all sheetmetal, rivets and hilocs.

I once worked on a DC9 that was heavily damaged (in pennsacola IIRC) and the fuselage aft of the wing structure had to be replaced. Got one from a doner aircraft, and she flew another 12 years.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:44:19 PM EST
On a R4D-6L?
That's the outer wing panel junction where the wing seperated.
It's bolts!

Originally Posted By ar-wrench:
...and hilocs.
quote]
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:48:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 4:49:45 PM EST by Leisure_Shoot]
Looks like a B24 stacked wing over wing with another plane.
I wonder if that's an illusion, or the wind did that?
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:57:03 PM EST
The Junior Vice Commander of our VFW Post here in Plano, TX is a Senior Chief with the Blue Angels. He's stationed at Pensacola but is here, home, on leave when the storm hit.

He's currently looking for a new car to drive back to base because his T-Bird was washed out along with the McDonald's it was parked next to during the storm.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 5:08:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:
That photo is HUGE!
Don't make the image hot it, I'll do some editing and host it.




+1...it's 4.5' x 4.5'. That's one big photo.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 5:49:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:



Whats with the painted bullseye on the tarmac?
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 1:09:52 PM EST
A BTT in case anybody missed the picture yesterday.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 1:12:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2004 1:12:28 PM EST by Boom_Stick]

Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle:
Whats with the painted bullseye on the tarmac?




Landing zone/target for skydivers.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 2:12:44 PM EST
I talked to a couple bubbas who were up from P-Cola (Whiting Field in Milton actually) at the H-46 retirement today. They told me that every hangar at Whiting Field was missing its roof and that one of the hangar doors was still unlocated. They expect to be flying again in 2-3 weeks though.
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