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Posted: 9/18/2009 2:54:54 PM EST
wards that great socialist nightmare that dear leader is creating for us all, I got the letter in the mail today from the Department of Indoctrination that my education loans that were obtained by me through a private bank were purchased by the Department Of Education, I would say unbelievable but I can not in all honesty say that since the elections happened. I am not a dead beat and I am not a welfare case who cranks out babies and I do not want .gov in my life. I have already heard how they were talking about mandating that college students volunteer as part of the requirements of their loans. I am NOT under any circumstances going to do that. So many people have been so right and I have known it , but this is just more proof they are scrambling to take over every little thing they can to control as much as they can as fast as they can. For God's sake people when is enough , enough? How much more do we have to endure of this, I thought I would never say this in my life , but I am at the point now that I am beginning to believe that the founders did indeed error when they did not leave the American Citizenry with a recall option on elected officials.
Signed

Extremely upset taxpaying lower middle income conservative right winger as so labeled by DHS


Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:22:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2009 3:26:55 PM EST by Dave_A]
What?

They bought your loans from a bank...

This is actually one of DoEd's main jobs right now - has been for over a decade...

They don't set curriculum or 'indoctrinate' anyone...

They do buy federally subsidized college loan debt from the banks, as a way of freeing up the banks to make more student loans...

This is neither 'nationalization', nor even remotely related to Obama....

P.S. If the Federal government wants to make volunteerisim a condition of lending you money (and yes, the Feds are the ones lending you your so-called 'private' student loans - they're the ones backing the loan & paying the interest while you are in school)....

That's their business..

Volunteer, or don't take their loans...

Me personally? I'd 'volunteer' for the National Guard, Air Guard, or one of the other Reserve components... Not going to run into too many socialist hippie tards in uniform...
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:27:22 PM EST
You sir are a fool. I did not get a Federally subsidized loan. NO stafford and no financial aid. The letter quite plainly states what it said. So do not tell me your claptrap. As usual your talking out of your league. As for what I stated earlier Obama himself has already stated numerous times that he he wanted to mandate that College students be required to give 100 hours a year service if they are receiving financial aid. As stated earlier I was not until today. He signed an act mandating that banks sell education loans. So be silent little boy.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:35:29 PM EST
This is the original text thank you very much a screen shot of the original site before he changed it. If you were half as right as you pretended to be man you would be smart.




Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:37:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

That's their business..

Volunteer, or don't take their loans...

Me personally? I'd 'volunteer' for the National Guard, Air Guard, or one of the other Reserve components... Not going to run into too many socialist hippie tards in uniform...

Me I am a veteran so again do not talk if you do not know what you your talking about
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:47:40 PM EST
As a fellow veteran/retiree I see that Obama is trying to legislate and force "Community Service". As an American I WILL NOT SUPPORT FORCED COMMUNITY SERVICE. I served my country already and am ashamed of the direction it is heading. SO, THEY WANT TO FORCE ME, A HARD WORKING CITIZEN TO HELP THE LAZYAND POOR THAT THEIR SYSTEM CREATED. BS.
Perhaps if schools and everthing associated with sports and education TAUGHT our kids instead of being afraid of "Hurting little Johnny's self image" because you, the government, failed to flunk kids or made schools dumb them down so "NO Child is Left Behind". then YOU DEAL WITH IT. I'll volunteer to stop you anyway I can but I WILL NOT be forced to volunteer to help you!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:51:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
You sir are a fool. I did not get a Federally subsidized loan. NO stafford and no financial aid. The letter quite plainly states what it said. So do not tell me your claptrap. As usual your talking out of your league. As for what I stated earlier Obama himself has already stated numerous times that he he wanted to mandate that College students be required to give 100 hours a year service if they are receiving financial aid. As stated earlier I was not until today. He signed an act mandating that banks sell education loans. So be silent little boy.

Apart from the horriffic attitude:

The Dept of Ed and Sallie Mae have been buying student loans for years... Like Fannie/Freddie, they do so to keep the market open for new borrowers....

Dept of Ed also direct lends Stafford and Perkins loans... And has done so since Clinton was President...

Further, this has been going on for a long, long time and has NOTHING to do with Obama...

But keep acting like you have something worth getting angry over...

P.S. Yes, we all know that Obama wants 100 hrs of volunteer service as a condition of receiving federal financial aid.... He hasn't gotten it passed yet, and if he does, it's no big deal... Just join the Guard... You'll do '100 hrs' in the first 4 days of your 2 week AT...
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:56:05 PM EST
You just do not get it. A true liberal and lost I am not serving a mandated volunteer anything. THat is not what I served for and not what America is. Ok one more time I did not APPLY for financial aid and again you did not receive my letter in the mail stating that"Earlier this year The President signed an order " So until you know what your talking about I urge you be silent.
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
You sir are a fool. I did not get a Federally subsidized loan. NO stafford and no financial aid. The letter quite plainly states what it said. So do not tell me your claptrap. As usual your talking out of your league. As for what I stated earlier Obama himself has already stated numerous times that he he wanted to mandate that College students be required to give 100 hours a year service if they are receiving financial aid. As stated earlier I was not until today. He signed an act mandating that banks sell education loans. So be silent little boy.

Apart from the horriffic attitude:

The Dept of Ed and Sallie Mae have been buying student loans for years... Like Fannie/Freddie, they do so to keep the market open for new borrowers....

Dept of Ed also direct lends Stafford and Perkins loans... And has done so since Clinton was President...

Further, this has been going on for a long, long time and has NOTHING to do with Obama...

But keep acting like you have something worth getting angry over...

P.S. Yes, we all know that Obama wants 100 hrs of volunteer service as a condition of receiving federal financial aid.... He hasn't gotten it passed yet, and if he does, it's no big deal... Just join the Guard... You'll do '100 hrs' in the first 4 days of your 2 week AT...


Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:56:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

That's their business..

Volunteer, or don't take their loans...

Me personally? I'd 'volunteer' for the National Guard, Air Guard, or one of the other Reserve components... Not going to run into too many socialist hippie tards in uniform...

Me I am a veteran so again do not talk if you do not know what you your talking about

What does that change about the statement? Nothing...

Unless you are too old now, if they do pass the 100hr law... And if it doesn't count your 'time paid' for your prior service...

RC membership should cover you...

It's a valid 'out' should that law be passed...


Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:59:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
You just do not get it. A true liberal and lost I am not serving a mandated volunteer anything. THat is not what I served for and not what America is. Ok one more time I did not APPLY for financial aid and again you did not receive my letter in the mail stating that"Earlier this year The President signed an order " So until you know what your talking about I urge you be silent.
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
You sir are a fool. I did not get a Federally subsidized loan. NO stafford and no financial aid. The letter quite plainly states what it said. So do not tell me your claptrap. As usual your talking out of your league. As for what I stated earlier Obama himself has already stated numerous times that he he wanted to mandate that College students be required to give 100 hours a year service if they are receiving financial aid. As stated earlier I was not until today. He signed an act mandating that banks sell education loans. So be silent little boy.

Apart from the horriffic attitude:

The Dept of Ed and Sallie Mae have been buying student loans for years... Like Fannie/Freddie, they do so to keep the market open for new borrowers....

Dept of Ed also direct lends Stafford and Perkins loans... And has done so since Clinton was President...

Further, this has been going on for a long, long time and has NOTHING to do with Obama...

But keep acting like you have something worth getting angry over...

P.S. Yes, we all know that Obama wants 100 hrs of volunteer service as a condition of receiving federal financial aid.... He hasn't gotten it passed yet, and if he does, it's no big deal... Just join the Guard... You'll do '100 hrs' in the first 4 days of your 2 week AT...



I would be very suspect of 'The President Signed an Order' mail, proposing to be from 'official' sources...

All manner of shady shit is being marketed this way now (credit relief services, personal loans, etc)....

What I am telling you, is that the purchase of private student loans (Even those who did not apply for aid) by the federal government has been going on for some time now, long before O, based on the same model that had GSEs buying home loans.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:55:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
You just do not get it. A true liberal and lost I am not serving a mandated volunteer anything. THat is not what I served for and not what America is. Ok one more time I did not APPLY for financial aid and again you did not receive my letter in the mail stating that"Earlier this year The President signed an order " So until you know what your talking about I urge you be silent.
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
You sir are a fool. I did not get a Federally subsidized loan. NO stafford and no financial aid. The letter quite plainly states what it said. So do not tell me your claptrap. As usual your talking out of your league. As for what I stated earlier Obama himself has already stated numerous times that he he wanted to mandate that College students be required to give 100 hours a year service if they are receiving financial aid. As stated earlier I was not until today. He signed an act mandating that banks sell education loans. So be silent little boy.

Apart from the horriffic attitude:

The Dept of Ed and Sallie Mae have been buying student loans for years... Like Fannie/Freddie, they do so to keep the market open for new borrowers....

Dept of Ed also direct lends Stafford and Perkins loans... And has done so since Clinton was President...

Further, this has been going on for a long, long time and has NOTHING to do with Obama...

But keep acting like you have something worth getting angry over...

P.S. Yes, we all know that Obama wants 100 hrs of volunteer service as a condition of receiving federal financial aid.... He hasn't gotten it passed yet, and if he does, it's no big deal... Just join the Guard... You'll do '100 hrs' in the first 4 days of your 2 week AT...



I would be very suspect of 'The President Signed an Order' mail, proposing to be from 'official' sources...

All manner of shady shit is being marketed this way now (credit relief services, personal loans, etc)....

What I am telling you, is that the purchase of private student loans (Even those who did not apply for aid) by the federal government has been going on for some time now, long before O, based on the same model that had GSEs buying home loans.


Here's the problem, Dave_A, You will not be able to aquire an educational loan, unless through the Federal gov't now. Essentially they have made it so only the federal gov't can finance education. Before the Feds backed the loans made as you previously stated. No longer is the "option" of a student loan available other than through the fed.

I may be a little paranoid, but with the gov't contoling every thing, collecting data on citizens, and offering to forgive a large portion or all of a student loan if an indiividual enters a field of certain area established by Washington( I don't beleive this is the case as of yet, but has been proposed), the gov't has to much authority.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:23:35 AM EST
I wouldn't think they could force you to do com service. You didn't sign a contract for that, since your loan was bought out.
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