Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login

Site Notices
1/22/2020 12:12:56 PM
Posted: 1/21/2015 9:00:15 AM EST
Some people find it hard to believe that NY is as crazy as it is when it comes to guns. Here is a comparison of NY's gun laws to other laws in NY.

265.02 3rd degree criminal possession of a weapon. Class D felony
This covers high capacity magazines made after 9-13-94 and assault weapons.

Here is a list of crimes NY finds less offensive than owning just a magazine.

120.70 - Luring a child | E Felony
121.11 - Criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation | A Misdemeanor
125.10 - Criminally negligent homicide | E Felony
130.20 - Sexual misconduct | A Misdemeanor
130.25 - Rape 3rd degree | E Felony
130.40 - Criminal sexual act 3rd degree | E Felony
130.52 - Forcible touching | A Misdemeanor
130.53 - Persistent sexual abuse | E Felony
130.65A - Aggravated sexual abuse 4th degree | E Felony
130.85 - Female genital mutilation | E Felony
135.05 - Unlawful imprisonment 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
135.10 - Unlawful imprisonment 1st degree | E Felony
135.45 - Custodial interference 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
135.50 - Custodial interference 1st degree | E Felony
135.55 - Substitution of children | E Felony
135.60 - Coercion 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
150.01 - 5th degree Arson | A Misdemeanor
150.05 - 4th degree Arson | E Felony
178.10 - 4th degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | A Misdemeanor
178.15 - 3rd degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | E Felony
220.28 - Use of a child to commit a controlled substance offense | E Felony
240.05 - Riot 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
240.06 - Riot 1st degree | E Felony
240.08 - Inciting to riot | A Misdemeanor
240.10 - Unlawful assembly | B Misdemeanor
240.15 - Criminal anarchy | E Felony
240.20 - Disorderly conduct | Violation
240.61 - Placing a false bomb or hazardous substance 2nd degree | E Felony
250.45 - Unlawful surveillance 2nd degree | E felony (Hidden cams for sexual gratification)
255.25 - Incest 3rd degree | E Felony
263.11 - Possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child | E Felony
263.16 - Possessing a sexual performance by a child | E Felony
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:02:03 AM EST
That's what you get when promiscuous and mediocre get in power.

Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:03:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By bob1946:
Some people find it hard to believe that NY is as crazy as it is when it comes to guns. Here is a comparison of NY's gun laws to other laws in NY.

265.02 3rd degree criminal possession of a weapon. Class D felony
This covers high capacity magazines made after 9-13-94 and assault weapons.

Here is a list of crimes NY finds less offensive than owning just a magazine.

120.70 - Luring a child | E Felony
121.11 - Criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation | A Misdemeanor
125.10 - Criminally negligent homicide | E Felony
130.20 - Sexual misconduct | A Misdemeanor
130.25 - Rape 3rd degree | E Felony
130.40 - Criminal sexual act 3rd degree | E Felony
130.52 - Forcible touching | A Misdemeanor
130.53 - Persistent sexual abuse | E Felony
130.65A - Aggravated sexual abuse 4th degree | E Felony
130.85 - Female genital mutilation | E Felony
135.05 - Unlawful imprisonment 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
135.10 - Unlawful imprisonment 1st degree | E Felony
135.45 - Custodial interference 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
135.50 - Custodial interference 1st degree | E Felony
135.55 - Substitution of children | E Felony
135.60 - Coercion 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
150.01 - 5th degree Arson | A Misdemeanor
150.05 - 4th degree Arson | E Felony
178.10 - 4th degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | A Misdemeanor
178.15 - 3rd degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | E Felony
220.28 - Use of a child to commit a controlled substance offense | E Felony
240.05 - Riot 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
240.06 - Riot 1st degree | E Felony
240.08 - Inciting to riot | A Misdemeanor
240.10 - Unlawful assembly | B Misdemeanor
240.15 - Criminal anarchy | E Felony
240.20 - Disorderly conduct | Violation
240.61 - Placing a false bomb or hazardous substance 2nd degree | E Felony
250.45 - Unlawful surveillance 2nd degree | E felony (Hidden cams for sexual gratification)
255.25 - Incest 3rd degree | E Felony
263.11 - Possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child | E Felony
263.16 - Possessing a sexual performance by a child | E Felony
View Quote

Okay... so other than bashing NY? What state are you from and how is this information not new?
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:04:42 AM EST
Possessing 10 or more illegal firearms in NY is a class B felony, the same as the emotionally disturbed intentional murder of a police officer. Remember this covers pistols you don't have on your permit and NY's all encompassing definition of an assault rifle.

265.04 Criminal possession of a weapon in the first degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the first
degree when such person:
(1) possesses any explosive substance with intent to use the same
unlawfully against the person or property of another; or
(2) possesses ten or more firearms.
Criminal possession of a weapon in the first degree is a class B
felony.

125.22 Aggravated manslaughter in the first degree.
A person is guilty of aggravated manslaughter in the first degree
when:
1. with intent to cause serious physical injury to a police officer or
peace officer, where such officer was in the course of performing his or
her official duties and the defendant knew or reasonably should have
known that such victim was a police officer or a peace officer, he or
she causes the death of such officer or another police officer or peace
officer; or
2. with intent to cause the death of a police officer or peace
officer, where such officer was in the course of performing his or her
official duties and the defendant knew or reasonably should have known
that such victim was a police officer or peace officer, he or she causes
the death of such officer or another police officer or peace officer
under circumstances which do not constitute murder because he or she
acts under the influence of extreme emotional disturbance, as defined in
paragraph (a) of subdivision one of section 125.25. The fact that
homicide was committed under the influence of extreme emotional
disturbance constitutes a mitigating circumstance reducing murder to
aggravated manslaughter in the first degree or manslaughter in the first
degree and need not be proved in any prosecution initiated under this
subdivision.
Aggravated manslaughter in the first degree is a class B felony.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:05:24 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:

Okay... so other than bashing NY? What state are you from and how is this information not new?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By bob1946:
Some people find it hard to believe that NY is as crazy as it is when it comes to guns. Here is a comparison of NY's gun laws to other laws in NY.

265.02 3rd degree criminal possession of a weapon. Class D felony
This covers high capacity magazines made after 9-13-94 and assault weapons.

Here is a list of crimes NY finds less offensive than owning just a magazine.

120.70 - Luring a child | E Felony
121.11 - Criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation | A Misdemeanor
125.10 - Criminally negligent homicide | E Felony
130.20 - Sexual misconduct | A Misdemeanor
130.25 - Rape 3rd degree | E Felony
130.40 - Criminal sexual act 3rd degree | E Felony
130.52 - Forcible touching | A Misdemeanor
130.53 - Persistent sexual abuse | E Felony
130.65A - Aggravated sexual abuse 4th degree | E Felony
130.85 - Female genital mutilation | E Felony
135.05 - Unlawful imprisonment 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
135.10 - Unlawful imprisonment 1st degree | E Felony
135.45 - Custodial interference 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
135.50 - Custodial interference 1st degree | E Felony
135.55 - Substitution of children | E Felony
135.60 - Coercion 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
150.01 - 5th degree Arson | A Misdemeanor
150.05 - 4th degree Arson | E Felony
178.10 - 4th degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | A Misdemeanor
178.15 - 3rd degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | E Felony
220.28 - Use of a child to commit a controlled substance offense | E Felony
240.05 - Riot 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor
240.06 - Riot 1st degree | E Felony
240.08 - Inciting to riot | A Misdemeanor
240.10 - Unlawful assembly | B Misdemeanor
240.15 - Criminal anarchy | E Felony
240.20 - Disorderly conduct | Violation
240.61 - Placing a false bomb or hazardous substance 2nd degree | E Felony
250.45 - Unlawful surveillance 2nd degree | E felony (Hidden cams for sexual gratification)
255.25 - Incest 3rd degree | E Felony
263.11 - Possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child | E Felony
263.16 - Possessing a sexual performance by a child | E Felony

Okay... so other than bashing NY? What state are you from and how is this information not new?


I live here I get to bash it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:17:40 AM EST
The Safe act made part of 265.02 3rd degree criminal possession of a weapon a violent felony while leaving part of it a non violent felony. This makes possession of a post 94 10+ round magazine or assault rifle a violent felony while leaving possession of a machine gun or bomb a non violent felony so if you are convicted for possessing just a Pmag there is a mandatory minimum sentence of two years in prison while if you are convicted for possession of a machine gun the minimum sentence is probation.

265.02 Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree. The parts in red are non violent offenses while the parts in blue are violent offenses.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third
degree when:
(1) Such person commits the crime of criminal possession of a weapon
in the fourth degree as defined in subdivision one, two, three or five
of section 265.01, and has been previously convicted of any crime; or
(2) Such person possesses any explosive or incendiary bomb, bombshell,
firearm silencer, machine-gun or any other firearm or weapon simulating
a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use; or
(3) Such person knowingly possesses a machine-gun, firearm, rifle or
shotgun which has been defaced for the purpose of concealment or
prevention of the detection of a crime or misrepresenting the identity
of such machine-gun, firearm, rifle or shotgun; or

(5) (i) Such person possesses three or more firearms; or (ii) such
person possesses a firearm and has been previously convicted of a felony
or a class A misdemeanor defined in this chapter within the five years
immediately preceding the commission of the offense and such possession
did not take place in the person's home or place of business; or
(6) Such person knowingly possesses any disguised gun; or
(7) Such person possesses an assault weapon; or
(8) Such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
For purposes of this subdivision, a large capacity ammunition feeding
device shall not include an ammunition feeding device lawfully possessed
by such person before the effective date of the chapter of the laws of
two thousand thirteen which amended this subdivision, that has a
capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept more
than seven but less than eleven rounds of ammunition, or that was
manufactured before September thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four,
that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to
accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; or
(9) Such person possesses an unloaded firearm and also commits a drug
trafficking felony as defined in subdivision twenty-one of section 10.00
of this chapter as part of the same criminal transaction; or
(10) Such person possesses an unloaded firearm and also commits any
violent felony offense as defined in subdivision one of section 70.02 of
this chapter as part of the same criminal transaction.
Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree is a class D
felony.


70.02 Sentence of imprisonment for a violent felony offense.

(c) Class D violent felony offenses: an attempt to commit any of the
class C felonies set forth in paragraph (b); reckless assault of a child
as defined in section 120.02, assault in the second degree as defined in
section 120.05, menacing a police officer or peace officer as defined in

section 120.18, stalking in the first degree, as defined in subdivision
one of section 120.60, strangulation in the second degree as defined in
section 121.12, rape in the second degree as defined in section 130.30,
criminal sexual act in the second degree as defined in section 130.45,
sexual abuse in the first degree as defined in section 130.65, course of
sexual conduct against a child in the second degree as defined in
section 130.80, aggravated sexual abuse in the third degree as defined
in section 130.66, facilitating a sex offense with a controlled
substance as defined in section 130.90, criminal possession of a weapon
in the third degree as defined in subdivision five, six, seven, eight,
nine or ten of section 265.02
, criminal sale of a firearm in the third
degree as defined in section 265.11, intimidating a victim or witness in
the second degree as defined in section 215.16, soliciting or providing
support for an act of terrorism in the second degree as defined in
section 490.10, and making a terroristic threat as defined in section
490.20, falsely reporting an incident in the first degree as defined in
section 240.60, placing a false bomb or hazardous substance in the first
degree as defined in section 240.62, placing a false bomb or hazardous
substance in a sports stadium or arena, mass transportation facility or
enclosed shopping mall as defined in section 240.63, and aggravated
unpermitted use of indoor pyrotechnics in the first degree as defined in
section 405.18.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:18:57 AM EST
we're all felons, we just don't know it yet.

fuck NY
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:28:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2015 9:29:45 AM EST by dangerdan]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
View Quote


So having a firearm that is not NY/SAFE act compliant, is worse than child sex/sexual assault






Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:56:07 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By dangerdan:


So having a firearm that is not NY/SAFE act compliant, is worse than child sex/sexual assault



https://www.americarisingpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ap_andrew_cuomo_mi_130109_wg.jpg



View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By dangerdan:


So having a firearm that is not NY/SAFE act compliant, is worse than child sex/sexual assault



https://www.americarisingpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ap_andrew_cuomo_mi_130109_wg.jpg





The penalties for non safe act compliance aren't as bad as they are for non compliance with the original AW ban but yeah having a non NY compliant AR is worse than some forms of child abuse/sexual assault under NY law.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 9:59:50 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bob1946:
The penalties for non safe act compliance aren't as bad as they are for non compliance with the original AW ban but yeah having a non NY compliant AR is worse than some forms of child abuse/sexual assault under NY law.
View Quote

its for the children though.
Link Posted: 1/21/2015 10:08:49 AM EST
Meanwhile I can stroll into any of dozens of gun stores here and buy all of the AR's, 30 round mags and ammo I can afford all day long and drive around with every one of them loaded with no worries.

Mizzuricah!

Top Top