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Posted: 8/31/2015 6:28:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2015 3:07:01 AM EDT by cobra-ak]
The city’s top cop went on the warpath Monday after a 23-year-old woman got out of her handcuffs and escaped from police custody over the weekend — the latest in a long line of suspects who have given authorities the slip in recent months.

“I’ll make it very clear that the punishment we will be putting in place for these types of events is going to be significant,” NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton told reporters, referring to the cop who was supposed to be guarding escaped prisoner Tiffany Neumann.

Neumann, a California native, successfully sneaked past the police officer on Sunday night while he was assigned to guard her at New York-Presbyterian/Lower Manhattan Hospital.

“I will not tolerate it as police commissioner, these continued lapses in what should be basic police care in custody of a prisoner,” Bratton said. “The penalties being imposed for the officer who neglected their duties are going to be very significant.”

Neumann had been arrested Saturday after she walked out on her tab at Hi Life Bar and Grill on the Upper West Side, according to police.

She was charged with petit larceny, possession of stolen property and trying to obtain transportation without paying, authorities said.

Neumann was set to be arraigned Sunday when she began complaining of bruising. After also claiming to be pregnant, she was taken to an examination room at the hospital, where she somehow slipped out of her cuffs and escaped at around 9 p.m.

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Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:33:59 PM EDT
Ugh, that is one ugly woman.

Isolated incident.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:36:46 PM EDT
I've seen more than 1 person slip out of cuffs, break out the window and run before. Some people are like escape artists.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:38:52 PM EDT
What?  I thought Tom Selleck was running the show these days.
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Someone has to eat the shit sandwich and the patrolman is the lowest on the pole.



 
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:41:35 PM EDT
If you put the cuffs on too tight you get a civilian complaint, which might very well be substantiated. You could be sued, lose vacation time, or worse.

Put them on loose enough that some crackhead slips his/her cuffs, and asshole Billy Boy gets personally involved in making your life miserable.

Fuck NYC. I hope so very much it burns very, very soon.

FUCK YOU, PAY ME.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:45:47 PM EDT
It still amazes me that Kevin White's driver has risen as far as he has in law enforcement.

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Originally Posted By Caboose314:
What?  I thought Tom Selleck was running the show these days.
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Different city.

don't care for either of them
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Originally Posted By Caboose314:


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Might as well be. Bratton is washed up. I don't care what he's done in other cities. That was ages ago.

 
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Someone has to eat the shit sandwich and the patrolman is the lowest on the pole.

 
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Originally Posted By -Apocalypto-:

I've seen more than 1 person slip out of cuffs, break out the window and run before. Some people are like escape artists.


Someone has to eat the shit sandwich and the patrolman is the lowest on the pole.

 
You're correct, but it may not be entirely his fault, a standard (issued) handcuff won't always go tight enough to fit some of the bony, skin and bones females.

 
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Originally Posted By kinglou0:
Might as well be. Bratton is washed up. I don't care what he's done in other cities. That was ages ago.  
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Originally Posted By kinglou0:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
What?  I thought Tom Selleck was running the show these days.
Might as well be. Bratton is washed up. I don't care what he's done in other cities. That was ages ago.  



He sold his soul this time around. He's a whore.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:52:40 PM EDT
What does NYPD policy and procedure say about inmates that are not admitted to the hospital but are just being seen in the ER?
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 6:52:42 PM EDT
Bratton? Who is that? Everyone knows the real NYPD Commissioner is Frank Reagan!
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You're correct, but it may not be entirely his fault, a standard (issued) handcuff won't always go tight enough to fit some of the bony, skin and bones females.  
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Originally Posted By substandard:


Originally Posted By -Apocalypto-:

I've seen more than 1 person slip out of cuffs, break out the window and run before. Some people are like escape artists.


Someone has to eat the shit sandwich and the patrolman is the lowest on the pole.

 
You're correct, but it may not be entirely his fault, a standard (issued) handcuff won't always go tight enough to fit some of the bony, skin and bones females.  


I agree with you. The officer may lack training as well, or have been involved in a situation where he was accused of puttng cuffs on too tight so he is overly cautious.



 
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 7:56:00 PM EDT
What does her body look like before Bratton imposes his sentence?
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 8:00:43 PM EDT
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“The penalties being imposed for the officer who neglected their duties are going to be very significant.”
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They always have been.

Originally Posted By Swoosh101:
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Inmate? People under arrest are guarded by a cop and handcuffed to the bed frame.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 3:28:11 AM EDT
You never let your guard down
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 3:30:30 AM EDT
You just let Bolivar escape.

We're all doomed now.
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They always have been.


Inmate? People under arrest are guarded by a cop and handcuffed to the bed frame.
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
“The penalties being imposed for the officer who neglected their duties are going to be very significant.”

They always have been.

Originally Posted By Swoosh101:
What does NYPD policy and procedure say about inmates that are not admitted to the hospital but are just being seen in the ER?

Inmate? People under arrest are guarded by a cop and handcuffed to the bed frame.


Completely read it wrong
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 3:48:09 AM EDT
A local deputy a month or so ago had a skinny little meth head female slip out of her cuffs while driving down the highway.  He started pulling over as she kicked out his window, which she dove out of just as he was almost stopped. He ended up having to run her down and sit on her until backup got there, as he was out of cuffs.

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Link Posted: 9/1/2015 3:50:06 AM EDT
LOL cop thread.

IBTL
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They always have been.


Inmate? People under arrest are guarded by a cop and handcuffed to the bed frame.
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
“The penalties being imposed for the officer who neglected their duties are going to be very significant.”

They always have been.

Originally Posted By Swoosh101:
What does NYPD policy and procedure say about inmates that are not admitted to the hospital but are just being seen in the ER?

Inmate? People under arrest are guarded by a cop and handcuffed to the bed frame.

How does the NYPD feel about Joe Cop using flex cuffs?
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Only seen them authorized during large protests, etc.
Not allowed on regular patrol.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:48:36 AM EDT
This thread needs moar leg-irons
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We had one set for the entire precinct.
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We had one set for the entire precinct.
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4:
This thread needs moar leg-irons

We had one set for the entire precinct.



I was shocked when I read the thread about the cop that face planted the chick after she kicked him, to find out cops didn't keep leg irons on hand, .

Seems dumb to not use such a simple tool prevent someone from kicking.
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM:

I was shocked when I read the thread about the cop that face planted the chick after she kicked him, to find out cops didn't keep leg irons on hand, .
Seems dumb to not use such a simple tool prevent someone from kicking.
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4:
This thread needs moar leg-irons

We had one set for the entire precinct.

I was shocked when I read the thread about the cop that face planted the chick after she kicked him, to find out cops didn't keep leg irons on hand, .
Seems dumb to not use such a simple tool prevent someone from kicking.

Cop I worked with bought his own because he was doing a lot of prisoner transports to the hospital, he was told by his Sgt. to stop using them.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 10:03:33 AM EDT
I've had one run off while cuffed. Found him a few hours later. I charged him with Theft of my handcuffs on top of the other charges. It worked.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 10:10:28 AM EDT
Kristen Stewart really is on a downward spiral if she's skipping bar tabs now.
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We had one set for the entire precinct.
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Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4:

This thread needs moar leg-irons


We had one set for the entire precinct.
Were you trained how to use them?

 
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 10:12:48 AM EDT
Nice to see the "Make New York City Ungovernable" campaign churning right along.
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He sold his soul this time around. He's a whore.
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Originally Posted By kinglou0:


Originally Posted By Caboose314:

What?  I thought Tom Selleck was running the show these days.
Might as well be. Bratton is washed up. I don't care what he's done in other cities. That was ages ago.  






He sold his soul this time around. He's a whore.
yep



 
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Originally Posted By grognard1:
It still amazes me that Kevin White's driver has risen as far as he has in law enforcement.

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Why, imagine all the dirt he witnessed driving a political pimp like White around, then imagine all the dirt he must have helped cover up!
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

Only seen them authorized during large protests, etc.
Not allowed on regular patrol.
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Originally Posted By sigp226:
How does the NYPD feel about Joe Cop using flex cuffs?

Only seen them authorized during large protests, etc.
Not allowed on regular patrol.

That's pretty silly. I guess the bosses figure that fat people and thin people will just do what they're told.
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Originally Posted By DOW:
If you put the cuffs on too tight you get a civilian complaint, which might very well be substantiated. You could be sued, lose vacation time, or worse.

Put them on loose enough that some crackhead slips his/her cuffs, and asshole Billy Boy gets personally involved in making your life miserable.

Fuck NYC. I hope so very much it burns very, very soon.

FUCK YOU, PAY ME.
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Im always on board with a Fuck NYC rally
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We had one set for the entire precinct.
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4:
This thread needs moar leg-irons

We had one set for the entire precinct.

Is a hobble-cord-thingy the same device?
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 11:25:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By grognard1:
It still amazes me that Kevin White's driver has risen as far as he has in law enforcement.

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Originally Posted By FLATFOOT762:
A local deputy a month or so ago had a skinny little meth head female slip out of her cuffs while driving down the highway.  He started pulling over as she kicked out his window, which she dove out of just as he was almost stopped. He ended up having to run her down and sit on her until backup got there, as he was out of cuffs.

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You have to put zip ties on the tweakers and old alcoholic ladies. They're just too mealy for metal cuffs.
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Is a hobble-cord-thingy the same device?
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Originally Posted By Intune69:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4:
This thread needs moar leg-irons

We had one set for the entire precinct.

Is a hobble-cord-thingy the same device?


I got jammed once for using one of those.......apparently "Hog Tying" (as the IA complaint read) someone who is actively resisting and Kicking you isnt Friendly enough.  Chief Agreed it was both warranted, and effective...then told me to never ever ever do it again
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Originally Posted By AJK07734:


I got jammed once for using one of those.......apparently "Hog Tying" (as the IA complaint read) someone who is actively resisting and Kicking you isnt Friendly enough.  Chief Agreed it was both warranted, and effective...then told me to never ever ever do it again
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Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Originally Posted By Intune69:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4:
This thread needs moar leg-irons

We had one set for the entire precinct.

Is a hobble-cord-thingy the same device?


I got jammed once for using one of those.......apparently "Hog Tying" (as the IA complaint read) someone who is actively resisting and Kicking you isnt Friendly enough.  Chief Agreed it was both warranted, and effective...then told me to never ever ever do it again

Verboten for us too.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 11:34:02 AM EDT
I see suspension in the officers future, followed by an injury when officer returns.
Of course that is followed up by early retirement and 3/4's disability pension.
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Verboten for us too.
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Originally Posted By Intune69:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4:
This thread needs moar leg-irons

We had one set for the entire precinct.

Is a hobble-cord-thingy the same device?


I got jammed once for using one of those.......apparently "Hog Tying" (as the IA complaint read) someone who is actively resisting and Kicking you isnt Friendly enough.  Chief Agreed it was both warranted, and effective...then told me to never ever ever do it again

Verboten for us too.

Compared to you guys we had LOTS of options.....
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Originally Posted By DOW:
If you put the cuffs on too tight you get a civilian complaint, which might very well be substantiated. You could be sued, lose vacation time, or worse.

Put them on loose enough that some crackhead slips his/her cuffs, and asshole Billy Boy gets personally involved in making your life miserable.

Fuck NYC. I hope so very much it burns very, very soon.

FUCK YOU, PAY ME.
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Add the fact that she is pregnant and any undue stress may put the baby at risk...

At least that is what a lawyer will argue when her drug riddled ass miscarries and they sue looking for money.

What were the charges for the arrest?  If stupid trivial drug possession case then add the escape charges and issue the warrant and be done after handing out a few days of non-paid "punishment" vacation for the cop.
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If stupid trivial drug possession case then add the escape charges and issue the warrant and be done after handing out a few days of non-paid "punishment" vacation for the cop.
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No vacation, they just take some of your paid vacation days off the books.
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Originally Posted By uglygun:



Add the fact that she is pregnant and any undue stress may put the baby at risk...

At least that is what a lawyer will argue when her drug riddled ass miscarries and they sue looking for money.

What were the charges for the arrest?  If stupid trivial drug possession case then add the escape charges and issue the warrant and be done after handing out a few days of non-paid "punishment" vacation for the cop.
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Originally Posted By DOW:
If you put the cuffs on too tight you get a civilian complaint, which might very well be substantiated. You could be sued, lose vacation time, or worse.

Put them on loose enough that some crackhead slips his/her cuffs, and asshole Billy Boy gets personally involved in making your life miserable.

Fuck NYC. I hope so very much it burns very, very soon.

FUCK YOU, PAY ME.



Add the fact that she is pregnant and any undue stress may put the baby at risk...

At least that is what a lawyer will argue when her drug riddled ass miscarries and they sue looking for money.

What were the charges for the arrest?  If stupid trivial drug possession case then add the escape charges and issue the warrant and be done after handing out a few days of non-paid "punishment" vacation for the cop.



You wouldnt believe how many times i had some screaming, actively fighting C-word screaming about how we couldnt touch her because "I'm Pregnant".....as she's kicking and punching at us......Then she fights with the EMT's in the Ambulance, and the Docs, Nurses and Techs in the ER.  We had one that racked up a dozen and a half Assault charges to go with the Robbery Charge (Shoplifter who assaulted the store folks when they stopped her) by the time everything was done (Including the original victims)...was Screaming about being Pregnant while she was being Arragined...until of course the Hospital reports that she wasnt Pregnant..the Judge was NOT amused.
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No vacation, they just take some of your paid vacation days off the books.
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Originally Posted By uglygun:

If stupid trivial drug possession case then add the escape charges and issue the warrant and be done after handing out a few days of non-paid "punishment" vacation for the cop.


No vacation, they just take some of your paid vacation days off the books.
Do they garnish your wages?

 
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Do they garnish your wages?  
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By uglygun:
If stupid trivial drug possession case then add the escape charges and issue the warrant and be done after handing out a few days of non-paid "punishment" vacation for the cop.

No vacation, they just take some of your paid vacation days off the books.
Do they garnish your wages?  

"I can't have my wages garnish-ied"
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"I can't have my wages garnish-ied"
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Originally Posted By runcible:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By uglygun:
If stupid trivial drug possession case then add the escape charges and issue the warrant and be done after handing out a few days of non-paid "punishment" vacation for the cop.

No vacation, they just take some of your paid vacation days off the books.
Do they garnish your wages?  

"I can't have my wages garnish-ied"


The only place on the internet where Chevy Chase movies are routinely quoted.
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The only place on the internet where Chevy Chase movies are routinely quoted.
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Originally Posted By runcible:
Do they garnish your wages?  

"I can't have my wages garnish-ied"

The only place on the internet where Chevy Chase movies are routinely quoted.

Are Chevy Chase movie quotes still allowed?
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Are Chevy Chase movie quotes still allowed?
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By runcible:
Do they garnish your wages?  

"I can't have my wages garnish-ied"

The only place on the internet where Chevy Chase movies are routinely quoted.

Are Chevy Chase movie quotes still allowed?


No comment.

Reported.

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Didn't think so.
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