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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:18:12 AM EDT
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:18:24 AM EDT
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I love happy endings.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:21:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:21:09 AM EDT
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not enough to stop this horse shit
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:24:07 AM EDT
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not enough to stop this horse shit It never will be so long as taxpayers foot the bill. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:32:15 AM EDT
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not enough to stop this horse shit Neither was the Brooklyn DA telling cops to stop charging it for pocket knives years ago obviously. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:33:21 AM EDT
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But does this man still have a criminal record? Is it expunged? Are all his photos and prints removed from "all" data bases? Are all arrest records removed from history?
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:34:07 AM EDT
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. This, only then would these fucks stop this gravity knife bullshit. Ny is and has been out of control for some time making up legal fictions to try to entrap citizens that are not breaking the law. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:39:51 AM EDT
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2 days in jail and fines, fees, penalties and a criminal record for carrying the pocket knife I legally carry everyday where I live if I'm in NY? And people wonder why myself and people like me will never step foot in that dumb ass commie state irregardless if that law were to ever be rescinded or not.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:41:07 AM EDT
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But does this man still have a criminal record? Is it expunged? Are all his photos and prints removed from "all" data bases? Are all arrest records removed from history? Nope. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:42:21 AM EDT
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Holy shit.
Those are those cheap, plastic, $3 knives. They come in a couple sizes. I was at One Police Plaza and they wouldn't let me in with one, and I tried to give it to a cop... he wasn't having it, so I had to throw it in a public waste bin. NYPD for the win. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:45:27 AM EDT
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Why anyone, with the means to escape that zoo, doesn't leave is unbelieveable
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:46:24 AM EDT
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But does this man still have a criminal record? Is it expunged? Are all his photos and prints removed from "all" data bases? Are all arrest records removed from history? Nope. Can you check and see if he made ARFcom's list? |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:51:14 AM EDT
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Link The cop who busted a Brooklyn electrician for carrying an illegal knife may have been speaking with a forked tongue. Bernard Perez has a $57,500 settlement from the city to support his argument that he was carrying a utility knife to strip insulation off wiring — not an illegal gravity knife as Officer Justin Delmonico had claimed. Perez, 48, spent two days in jail and then three follow-up trips to court culminating in a fateful meeting in an assistant district attorney’s office, where Delmonico was asked repeatedly to demonstrate how the knife blade flicked open — and couldn’t. But the prosecutor’s concession was not good enough for city lawyer Jenny Weng, who was fighting Perez's lawsuit.
“The city’s lawyer actually claimed with a straight face that the word ‘is’ doesn’t mean ‘is,’ ” Perez’s lawyer Joel Berger told the Daily News. “She argued that the cop believed it was a gravity knife at the time he seized it, but it was no longer functioning as a gravity knife at the time of the demonstration in the DA’s office four months later,” Berger said. The city relented, signing off on the $57,500 deal on Aug. 21. Good. Fuck'em. It ought to come out of that cocksucker's paycheck. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:51:19 AM EDT
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Guilty until proven innocent
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:52:46 AM EDT
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2 days in jail and fines, fees, penalties and a criminal record for carrying the pocket knife I legally carry everyday where I live if I'm in NY? And people wonder why myself and people like me will never step foot in that dumb ass commie state irregardless if that law were to ever be rescinded or not. The NY state legislature tried to stop this but in an odd reversal of roles the republicans killed the bill the dems were pushing to clarify that these knives were legal. ETA: It wasn't that the dems had decided all of a sudden that banning shit is wrong, they just didn't like that poor minorities were the ones often arrested. It also didn't hurt that the NYPD was arresting construction union members for knives so the unions were pissed and used their dem connection to try and get things changed. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:56:19 AM EDT
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The NY state legislature tried to stop this but in an odd reversal of roles the republicans killed the bill the dems were pushing to clarify that these knives were legal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2 days in jail and fines, fees, penalties and a criminal record for carrying the pocket knife I legally carry everyday where I live if I'm in NY? And people wonder why myself and people like me will never step foot in that dumb ass commie state irregardless if that law were to ever be rescinded or not. The NY state legislature tried to stop this but in an odd reversal of roles the republicans killed the bill the dems were pushing to clarify that these knives were legal. Same coin after all. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 7:56:40 AM EDT
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. 
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:01:40 AM EDT
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Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:09:26 AM EDT
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If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. If I egregiously screw up at work, I can be held personally liable, especially if I am not following company procedures and standards and just ''wing it'' with whatever regs or laws I feel like pulling out of my ass. Don't see why, in many cases where the cop is just doubling down on stupid, [especially in instances when they can actually check the laws before citing] they SHOULDN"T be held personally liable, we're not talking a dynamic fluid stop where the person is attempting to fight or resist. If you don't know the law you're busting someone for, and you refuse to check, well, that should cost you some coin out of your own pocket. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:09:42 AM EDT
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If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. Better to take the paycheck and pension and just not make any arrests to be safe. 
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:10:55 AM EDT
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I hate that "gravity knife" bullshit. Stresses me out when I'm carrying my folder in NYC. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:11:57 AM EDT
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2 days in the pokey for a knife. Fuuuck.
I've been guilty of more and gotten less
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:29:07 AM EDT
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NYC - where gravity is illegal. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:36:08 AM EDT
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Better to take the paycheck and pension and just not make any arrests to be safe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. Better to take the paycheck and pension and just not make any arrests to be safe. Cops didn't seem to have any problem arresting people before 1983 when they got qualified immunity. It could be argued they became more risk averse after getting QI. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:37:19 AM EDT
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NYC - where gravity is illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
NYC - where gravity is illegal. Quoted:
If they take it out of your pocket, drop it, and it falls to the ground... it's a gravity knife. If it floats... they lock you up for being a witch. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:40:26 AM EDT
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If I egregiously screw up at work, I can be held personally liable, especially if I am not following company procedures and standards and just ''wing it'' with whatever regs or laws I feel like pulling out of my ass. Don't see why, in many cases where the cop is just doubling down on stupid, [especially in instances when they can actually check the laws before citing] they SHOULDN"T be held personally liable, we're not talking a dynamic fluid stop where the person is attempting to fight or resist. If you don't know the law you're busting someone for, and you refuse to check, well, that should cost you some coin out of your own pocket. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. If I egregiously screw up at work, I can be held personally liable, especially if I am not following company procedures and standards and just ''wing it'' with whatever regs or laws I feel like pulling out of my ass. Don't see why, in many cases where the cop is just doubling down on stupid, [especially in instances when they can actually check the laws before citing] they SHOULDN"T be held personally liable, we're not talking a dynamic fluid stop where the person is attempting to fight or resist. If you don't know the law you're busting someone for, and you refuse to check, well, that should cost you some coin out of your own pocket. Cops can, and do, lose qualified immunity all the time. In fact, in most civil cases both the department and individual officers will be named. One of the first hearings is usually an attempt by the defendant officers to establish qualified immunity. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:44:44 AM EDT
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Cops can, and do, lose qualified immunity all the time. In fact, in most civil cases both the department and individual officers will be named. One of the first hearings is usually an attempt by the defendant officers to establish qualified immunity. I worked with a female cop who had to pay a $30k judgement out of her own pocket. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:44:51 AM EDT
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*Extorris*
Isolated incident. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:48:03 AM EDT
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Sad part is third party databases have already captured his "crime" and background checks will still show this arrest. Doesn't help it's plastered all over the news too.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:49:03 AM EDT
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Good, but not good enough.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:52:31 AM EDT
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I worked with a female cop who had to pay a $30k judgement out of her own pocket. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cops can, and do, lose qualified immunity all the time. In fact, in most civil cases both the department and individual officers will be named. One of the first hearings is usually an attempt by the defendant officers to establish qualified immunity. I worked with a female cop who had to pay a $30k judgement out of her own pocket. That must have been a really shitty blowjob |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:54:15 AM EDT
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That must have been a really shitty blowjob. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cops can, and do, lose qualified immunity all the time. In fact, in most civil cases both the department and individual officers will be named. One of the first hearings is usually an attempt by the defendant officers to establish qualified immunity. I worked with a female cop who had to pay a $30k judgement out of her own pocket. That must have been a really shitty blowjob. Strip search actually. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:55:02 AM EDT
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Strip search actually. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cops can, and do, lose qualified immunity all the time. In fact, in most civil cases both the department and individual officers will be named. One of the first hearings is usually an attempt by the defendant officers to establish qualified immunity. I worked with a female cop who had to pay a $30k judgement out of her own pocket. That must have been a really shitty blowjob. Strip search actually. Then she is a terrible stripper. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:56:15 AM EDT
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“The city’s lawyer actually claimed with a straight face that the word ‘is’ doesn’t mean ‘is,’ ” Perez’s lawyer Joel Berger told the Daily News. The Clinton defense has hit the mainstream.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:58:08 AM EDT
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grumpycatgood.gif
Love to see a pic of said "gravity knife". |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:07:44 AM EDT
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"Last month, the city settled another suit involving Delmonico for $120,000 in which he was accused of falsely arresting a man who laughed at the cop after a perpetrator had outrun him, according to lawyer Brett Klein."
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:09:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better to take the paycheck and pension and just not make any arrests to be safe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. Better to take the paycheck and pension and just not make any arrests to be safe.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:09:59 AM EDT
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Love to see a pic of said "gravity knife". It's in the article. 
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:10:32 AM EDT
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Still training the rookies after retirement, eh? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Better to take the paycheck and pension and just not make any arrests to be safe. Looks like some PDs are finally getting the message. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:11:24 AM EDT
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But does this man still have a criminal record? Is it expunged? Are all his photos and prints removed from "all" data bases? Are all arrest records removed from history? Nope. Expungment should be part of the settlement or i would keep fighting. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:12:07 AM EDT
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So a pocket knife with a loose hinge is a gravity knife?
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:12:45 AM EDT
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If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Delmonico should pay the settlement out of his wages or pension. Weng should have to pay at least 40% just because she is stupid. Only way you'll put an end to that bullshit, some personal accountability for that level of stupidity. Never happen. If cops are personally responsible for paying for illegal arrests then nobody will be a cop. Maybe those guys shouldn't be cops. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:13:12 AM EDT
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So a pocket knife with a loose hinge is a gravity knife? It depends on if the cop wants some OT. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:14:00 AM EDT
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WTF is a gravity knife?
So, a Spyderco would be considered evil in NY? |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:14:30 AM EDT
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So a pocket knife with a loose hinge is a gravity knife? I read if the cops can flick the blade out with a wrist snap, it's a "gravity knife". I also read if the cops can't do that, they'll grab the blade and do a wrist snap and if the handle flicks out...it's a "gravity knife".
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:14:40 AM EDT
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So, a Spyderco would be considered evil in NY? My friend was arrested for a Spyderco Endura in Queens. Judge tossed the case at arraignment but it cost him a police job he was trying to get. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:15:31 AM EDT
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The lack of leo personal accountability hits new lows almost daily now.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:16:58 AM EDT
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Glad he got a settlement.
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Posted: 8/28/2015 9:17:02 AM EDT
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But does this man still have a criminal record? Is it expunged? Are all his photos and prints removed from "all" data bases? Are all arrest records removed from history? Nope. like the cop shows..... the next time he ends up being looked at by the cops... " suspect has no record, but he was arrested in 2012, for posession of a illegal conceiled weapon...so, he has a history of carrying weapons.... he beat that wrap somehow... the da must have stepped on his dick back then... this guy had a history, he just has not gotten caught obviously, or he got lucky. |
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