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Posted: 4/12/2017 11:00:38 AM EDT
I need to replace our 2003 Escalade ESV with something newer.  

It needs to seat 6 and have enough room for 8 suitcases/duffel bags
Be comfortable on 500 mile trips
decent fuel economy
Have DVD players for the kids
Have 100k miles of relatively trouble free life left in it
Priced under $30k because I don't finance

I'm familiar with the older GM line and am not thrilled with the 5.3 oil issues  
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:02:15 AM EDT
CZ P-07
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:03:20 AM EDT
What 5.3 oil issues? My 2014 Silverado doesn't burn any oil. 

I would look at a suburban/yukon xl. 
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:05:21 AM EDT
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What 5.3 oil issues? My 2014 Silverado doesn't burn any oil. 

I would look at a suburban/yukon xl. 
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You must be lucky then.  They are known for sucking oil
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:06:38 AM EDT
Toyota Sienna, put the bags on the roof!
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:07:41 AM EDT
I don't know much about SUVs. How do you feel about a minivan? How old are the kids? Roof rack for added capacity but you could probably put most / all the luggage inside. Or get a trailer hitch + carrier.

Most vans fit all your criteria. You can also fold the seats down and use it to haul all kinds of stuff (full sheets of plywood, lawn mower, etc). Friend of mine has over 300k on a early 2000 Dodge Grand Caravan. Biggest issue was the A/C compressor going out.
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I must have lucky friends/family  too. I have 3 aquaintances with 5.3 powered silverados/sierras (2014 and newer), and none have said anything about oil issues. 
Is it a less expensive fix than replacing turbos/shortblocks on ecoboost f150s? I do have a friend who had both turbos replaces, and eventually the 3.5 eb grenaded. Not tuned. 
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:09:23 AM EDT
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Honestly this, or a Honda odyssey. I was super anti van but after we got one for family road trips they are the tits. Plenty of room good on gas and comfortable as hell. I can also fold the seats down and fit in full sheets of plywood or drywall You can seriously haul a ton of stuff with the seats down or out.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:09:27 AM EDT
A used school bus.

You're welcome.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:10:08 AM EDT
I have a pickup for hauling.  

I wish Ford still built Crown Vics
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:10:35 AM EDT
Get a used 4runner
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:10:39 AM EDT
Tundra crew max with front bench seats or a bus or excursion.

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Honestly this, or a Honda odyssey. I was super anti van but after we got one for family road trips they are the tits. Plenty of room good on gas and comfortable as hell. I can also fold the seats down and fit in full sheets of plywood or drywall You can seriously haul a ton of stuff with the seats down or out.
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This might be the way to go if you do not need to tow anything. Odysseys and Siennas are know to run past 250k miles without much issue.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:11:20 AM EDT
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I think he could get that new and nicely equipped for about 35K. Maybe try and round up few more dollars if financing's completely out.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:13:26 AM EDT
No minivans.

I oftentimes pull a car hauler and drag home toys.  

I found a newer Escalade but 13/19 mpg is ugly. 403 hp is nice though
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:15:11 AM EDT
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I think he could get that new and nicely equipped for about 35K. Maybe try and round up few more dollars if financing's completely out.
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I never thought about them, till I rode in one.
Plush leathet seats, AC everywhere  and quick, I was quite surprised, they are actually bad ass.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:22:18 AM EDT
Ah, shit. Pulling a car trailer'll pretty much mean a full size double cab pickup (double cab to get the seating arrangement you want) or a full size SUV I'd say.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:23:13 AM EDT
Honda odyssey 

Saw your towing requirement.... That makes this way more difficult. 
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:23:49 AM EDT
Walk around your property and see if there's a parked SUV of unknown provenance.

You could start a thread about it. Maybe even finish it this time.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:25:44 AM EDT
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Walk around your property and see if there's a parked SUV of unknown provenance.

You could start a thread about it. Maybe even finish it this time.
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My need for a fresh SUV ties into that thread  

Road tripping!
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:28:11 AM EDT
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I have a pickup for hauling.  

I wish Ford still built Crown Vics
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Expedition, they have more room than a Tahoe or Suburban (XL model) should be some good deals out there. Plus the Ford motors are bulletproof . If you get an Ecoboost older than 16 install a catch can and take care of it, change plugs every 36k and have them look at the timing chain about 80-90k.  If you are worried about it just get a 302.

Yep GMs 5.3s have severe oil issues, 1 qt per 1k miles is common and the newer v8s with cyl deactivation are shit just waiting to break
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:33:59 AM EDT
Did they start putting the AFM BS on the 6.2 Escalade engines too?
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:34:46 AM EDT
I've been having a hard-on lately for the Lexus gx460, you could get one used for 25k
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 11:36:50 AM EDT
I've got a sillyverado with a 4.8, same engine as 5.3 and it uses a bit of oil. I wouldn't call it severe about a quart between changes. Take the throttle body off the intake and peek in there and you'll see where your oil's going. That PVC system seems to suck it out of the crankcase.
Link Posted: 4/12/2017 12:54:23 PM EDT
Get a Yukon or Yukon XL, Denali trim level or the Escalades.  They have the 6.2L motor, no AFM.  Fuckers will last forever.

You should be able to find one in your price range with 75k miles or so.

I bought an '09 Sierra 1500 Denali a few years ago with 70k on the clock.  Was $25k.  Great truck.

ETA: I think the K2XX trucks have AFM in the 6.2, so look at 2013 and older.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 3:17:51 PM EDT
Looked at an 09 that has everything we want except showing signs of rust on the frame.  What's up with that?  Our 03 looks new underneath.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 4:47:50 PM EDT
Send kids to boarding school.  Buy a Porsche. 

Nobody wants to admit that they really need a van, but OP really needs to suck it up and buy a van. 

Look into the Ram/Mercedes Sprinters. 5 cylinder diesel. 
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 4:50:31 PM EDT
Before dropping $30,000 cash on new/used vehicle. I would fix your Escalade and keep driving it.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 4:51:09 PM EDT
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I don't know much about SUVs. How do you feel about a minivan? How old are the kids? Roof rack for added capacity but you could probably put most / all the luggage inside. Or get a trailer hitch + carrier.

Most vans fit all your criteria. You can also fold the seats down and use it to haul all kinds of stuff (full sheets of plywood, lawn mower, etc). Friend of mine has over 300k on a early 2000 Dodge Grand Caravan. Biggest issue was the A/C compressor going out.
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Honda is selling their 3.5 minivan for sub 30k. Love the engine. 
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 4:57:16 PM EDT
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Before dropping $30,000 cash on new/used vehicle. I would fix your Escalade and keep driving it.
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This is an option but it has lots of little things going.  It needs the sensor that wraps the steering column so the whole shaft must be pulled to replace it, all the paint is worn off the radio buttons that work about 80%, and the trans is starting to slip on the 2-3 shift every now and then. Plus, the PO snagged the DVD system out of it.  

We need the big vehicle to go to church and on long road trips. Around town trips and we drive the smaller vehicles.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 5:01:37 PM EDT
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I was gonna say the same thing, but for different reasons.

I don't think you're going to find a new vehicle as good as the one you have at any price. You'd come out ahead by putting $5-10k into the one you have and restoring it to excellent condition.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 5:04:24 PM EDT
Full-size SUV or conversion van
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 5:06:41 PM EDT
Pull the transmission and take it in for a rebuild; 4L60E should run about $1,000 if a rebuild is needed. This would be a great time to pull the steering shaft and replace the sensor… The radio would be costly and I would go aftermarket.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 5:11:51 PM EDT
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Love the CZ P-07, especially the factory extended version.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 5:31:26 PM EDT
Hell I bought my 2014 F150 XLT sueprcrew 4x4 brand spankin new for $35K.   I'd think you could find a very nice 2014 or newer SUV or crewcab pickup for less than 30K.

You only buy a minivan when you realize your soul is truly dead and nothing really matters anymore.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 5:32:41 PM EDT
Subaru Outback.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 6:29:17 PM EDT
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Hell I bought my 2014 F150 XLT sueprcrew 4x4 brand spankin new for $35K.   I'd think you could find a very nice 2014 or newer SUV or crewcab pickup for less than 30K.

You only buy a minivan when you realize your soul is truly dead and nothing really matters anymore.
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You must not be checking the market.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 6:43:11 PM EDT
Get a Lexus LX570
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 6:44:53 PM EDT
If you live near Canada consider importing something. It's not too difficult and the with exchange rate there are some screaming deals. You can knock 25% off their asking price.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 6:53:06 PM EDT
I'm nearer to Florida 

  
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 6:56:35 PM EDT
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If that is out of your price range, try the LX470 or the GX460.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 6:56:48 PM EDT
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If that is out of your price range, try the LX470 or the GX460.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:03:19 PM EDT
Anyone see anything scary here?  I'm used to southern trucks that look better than this underneath
I'm ok with a little rust-oleum touch up.  This is a 2009 2500 loaded up that I can get for a decent price.






Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:05:21 PM EDT
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Anyone see anything scary here?  I'm used to southern trucks that look better than this underneath
I'm ok with a little rust-oleum touch up.  This is a 2009 2500 loaded up that I can get for a decent price.
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http://www.suburbanford.net/used/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-b290e05c0a0e0a6b505409ae4522705f.htm?searchDepth=13:50
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:06:31 PM EDT
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Anyone see anything scary here?  I'm used to southern trucks that look better than this underneath
I'm ok with a little rust-oleum touch up.  This is a 2009 2500 loaded up that I can get for a decent price.
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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyramidmountain/image000004_zpsdjb14ziq.jpg

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Minimal issue, might rust through in another 60-70 years.
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I have a pickup.  Taking a load of teens on a 1000 round trip once a month in it is not my idea of comfortable  
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Get a Lexus LX570
If that is out of your price range, try the LX470 or the GX460.
I have an LX470 I paid $8,800 for with less than 200K on the odometer.

It will seat six, but still not quite enough room for what OP needs. However, I LOVE it as a backup for the '13 Sienna.

OP needs a Sienna.

ETA: Similar situation here with a family of six. Myself, wife unit, nine year old girl, seven year old girl, three year old boy, and seven month old girl.

I will reiterate. OP needs a Sienna.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:14:42 PM EDT
Put them all in the truck bed with a cargo net over the top.   Peace and quiet in the cab.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:20:15 PM EDT
2009 Yukon 2500 4x4 loaded with 6.0 6 spd auto, dual DVDs, backup camera, 3 zone climate control, and everything else they came with and 100k miles for $23k.  I might fo

That surface rust on the frame is the worst thing wrong with it.  Our 2003 with 190k looks better underneath. 
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:27:06 PM EDT
New Chrysler minivan, you should be able to get all of that along with remote start, leather, heated seats/steering wheel exc for 30k new.
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