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The steering wheel radio controls in the f350 we drive everyday for work has issues all the time, no way in fucking hell am I ever trusting a car to drive itself if a manufacterer can't make simple shit like that work 100% reliable every time no matter what.
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Quoted: Driven 100s of thousands of miles and never killed anyone behind the wheel. People trying to sell these robot cars can not make that claim about robot cars. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Driven 100s of thousands of miles and never killed anyone behind the wheel. People trying to sell these robot cars can not make that claim about robot cars. LOL People said the same shit about seat belts, ABS, air bags, collision-avoidance systems, etc. Every new piece of safety tech brings out the old "I'm better than any of this fancy-schmancy technology!" argument. |
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If they think they are all set after 100 hours, they haven't really tested any contingencies at all.
Only one camera? Break the lens with a truck recap tread doing 80 and see what happens. Have a kid hit it with an egg. Etc. |
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So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Yes actually better than a regular CPU. |
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Quoted: So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? |
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It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. |
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" Cope with all weather conditions "
That's funny. I have Rear wheel drive ice racer, I wanna see a machine " Cope With " |
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I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm above 7 mph. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm above 7 mph. |
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The cameras are typically behind windshield glass. How well do human drivers typically respond to a retread going into them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84M3ghUKlLk View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If they think they are all set after 100 hours, they haven't really tested any contingencies at all. Only one camera? Break the lens with a truck recap tread doing 80 and see what happens. Have a kid hit it with an egg. Etc. The cameras are typically behind windshield glass. How well do human drivers typically respond to a retread going into them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84M3ghUKlLk Humans can duck when they see a retread coming at them. The camera can only attempt to make the 4,000+ lb car move. Neat video though. You can see very clearly that it didn't anticipate the second pedestrian entering the crosswalk. |
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Probably works better than a Southerner. https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/s030898453-300.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. Probably works better than a Southerner. https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/s030898453-300.jpg Lol, forgot about that pic and the shops. |
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So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? They deal with input of thousands, or tens of thousands of items, then do very complex math on them. 30-100 times per second. Driving would actually be leaving most of their potential unused. They can also "learn" horrendously faster than a human, by doing the outrageous amount of processing needed for machine learning. The tough part is getting the software completely reliable. Of course, if self driving cars killed, say, 3000 people per year, that would be a 90% reduction over human driving. |
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. Ain't found me one damn bitcoin though! |
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Quoted: Ain't found me one damn bitcoin though! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. Ain't found me one damn bitcoin though! |
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Probably works better than a Southerner. https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/s030898453-300.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. Probably works better than a Southerner. https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/s030898453-300.jpg Southern Ice is like Northern Rain |
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All weather conditions including the ones that cover up the cameras/sensors?
Yeah, full of shitsky. Segway tard: "They'll build cities around this invention...." |
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Let's see how good it does on an episode of "Ice Road Truckers".
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I wonder if this technology, when mature and safe, will allow flying cars to finally be more than just a novelty.
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The other day I sat at a light...it turned green...and then red, and only one person made it through before it changed. I was the only one who honked, and I did so at the end of the cycle....we were ALL looking at our phones while sitting there. I just happened to get bored and look up in time to catch the last bit o' green. There were probably 10 cars, it was a 2 lane road. Yeah, we need self driving cars for sure . View Quote Further proof of my theory that technology is dumbing down the driving populace. |
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Happy path.
What happens when a cop is redirecting traffic in the middle of a driving lane, a car is broken down, complete white out with six inches of snow covering the road and shoulders, pot hole six inches deep by one square foot, flood washes out a section of road, furniture in the middle of the road, ... Just curious. |
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I believe the autonomous car idea is a pipe dream for various reasons. At best we could get something that essentially operated on 'tracks' on main roads with only other 'self driving' cars for company, with assisted driving similar to what we have now for use on the side roads.
The human brain has so much going on behind the scenes in order to operate a car on public roads that I just don't see it being feasible. The significance of perfecting the AI to make a fully functional autonomous car would alter society in a huge way. The original goal of driverless cars would seem petty when all was said and done. |
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Quoted: The other day I sat at a light...it turned green...and then red, and only one person made it through before it changed. I was the only one who honked, and I did so at the end of the cycle....we were ALL looking at our phones while sitting there. I just happened to get bored and look up in time to catch the last bit o' green. There were probably 10 cars, it was a 2 lane road. Yeah, we need self driving cars for sure . View Quote The rest of us can handle traffic signals just fine. |
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Quoted: would suck to be a truck driver, 3.5 million americans are going on the dole in the next decade https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*FAOTYaCoYpUhjiAe3sjofA.png most common occupation by state View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: lol are you a trucker or something? You seem really butt hurt about this. would suck to be a truck driver, 3.5 million americans are going on the dole in the next decade https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*FAOTYaCoYpUhjiAe3sjofA.png most common occupation by state lol at the optimism. Gonna be a longer time than that. |
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At least NVIDIA's SkyNet will be preoccupied dicking around all day in DOTA 2.
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. View Quote Umm I'm pretty sure those video cards have processors that are more advanced than any Intel processor. Nevermind the fact that Nvidia produces specialists and the chips for the most powerful supercomputers in the world Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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There are days during which an autonomous vehicle could climb my driveway....And then we have winter.
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I work in a highly automated industry with machinery that costs 10+ million dollars and they stop working all the time for stupid reasons. Sometimes computers just stop working. The AI is communicating with the brakes. Great. What if the comm stops for no reason. Guess what, it happens all the time in my industry. But instead of a 250k$ product, you have a human life on the line.
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No, people like you and the other 9 require that crutch. The rest of us can handle traffic signals just fine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The other day I sat at a light...it turned green...and then red, and only one person made it through before it changed. I was the only one who honked, and I did so at the end of the cycle....we were ALL looking at our phones while sitting there. I just happened to get bored and look up in time to catch the last bit o' green. There were probably 10 cars, it was a 2 lane road. Yeah, we need self driving cars for sure . The rest of us can handle traffic signals just fine. The problem will only get worse as younger generations start driving. The good drivers will age out. |
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It isn't a question of whether it will run over kids. It will. The question is whether it will do so at a lesser rate than the average human. Time will tell. View Quote There is a certain amount of run-over-children that one might consider to be an acceptable trade off when you start considering other negative aspects of self-driving vehicles. Especially if the kids are getting run over because they're idiots. I'll add that anyone expecting to see anything out of Google that is capable of making life-or-death decisions is out of their fucking minds. It can and will be done successfully... but by someone else. |
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Let me know when it can dodge snowdrifts while overtaking slower traffic on a 2-lane road.
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Quoted: I work in a highly automated industry with machinery that costs 10+ million dollars and they stop working all the time for stupid reasons. Sometimes computers just stop working. The AI is communicating with the brakes. Great. What if the comm stops for no reason. Guess what, it happens all the time in my industry. But instead of a 250k$ product, you have a human life on the line. View Quote Yup, and every single fuckup that involves injury or death will result not in a lawsuit aimed at the driver or occupants, but at the software maker. Big, expensive ones. Lawyers will get their dick hard at the thought of it. That's going to be an entirely new paradigm, and no company is going to withstand that kind of lawsuit barrage. Every thread about this I bring it up, but no one even remotely has a grown-up answer to liability. We can't even get liability right for life & death medical care - but people expect it'll sort itself out for some cars? In 10 years? El oh fucking el, the naivete of some people. |
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Cool but can it react when some drunk Mexican swerves into its lane? View Quote If the drunk Mexican had let his car doing the driving, he wouldn't have swerved into the lane to begin with... That being said, yes, collision avoidance will be a key feature of self-driving cars when they go prime time if it isn't there already. |
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I used to work with GPU clusters doing some pretty heavy spatial analysis. They can do some impressive things when given the right task.
I'd be interested in seeing the optical system they use. I'd assume they are using some sort of LiDAR (probably phased continuous wave) and multispectral overlay. Either way GPUs excel at this type of data/algorithm processing. Would I trust my child's life to it? That's a different question. |
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I used to work with GPU clusters doing some pretty heavy spatial analysis. They can do some impressive things when given the right task. I'd be interested in seeing the optical system they use. I'd assume they are using some sort of LiDAR (probably phased continuous wave) and multispectral overlay. Either way GPUs excel at this type of data/algorithm processing. Would I trust my child's life to it? That's a different question. View Quote Nope. Just one 200x66 capture array, aka 1 low res CCT camera, one extra set on either side to pick up FOV shift. GPUs were just used for the Net training off of time stamped "meatbag" driver and steering logging. 10 hz sampling btw.... Once the gains were tuned, offloaded onto a regular ole computer for execution. Hell, after you've done your training execution can be done on an Arduino. It's not like its "thinking" after that. Section 5.2 tells you everything you need to know about how applicable to "real world" this is. AKA overfit like a motherfucker. That's why you only use unsupervised learning for part of your architecture, not all of it. But GD aint reading no papers. I've done parallelized KNN training before - but not on a GPU. To me that's by far the most significant info. |
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Took a second look. I'm slow some times... Read through the paper abit slower this time. This isn't a 9 layer KNN. Shunting one of those entirely onto a GPU would be impressive. It's a regular 4 layer and their "network" is just regular extraction convolutions prior to that. AKA - standard procedure for all image conditioning forever and always. But it was worded in a way as to imply otherwise. This isn't even fucking news. I was doing this shit a decade ago. Any CPU can do this. Anyone with matlab can type nnet and do damn near the exact same thing. Motherfucking tech blogs. Internet is godamned cancer. |
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