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Posted: 10/18/2004 1:34:47 PM EDT

District 14
(R) *RON PAUL B

from nrapvf.org

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:35:39 PM EDT

[#1]

Who the fuck is Ron Paul?

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:36:20 PM EDT

[#2]

If they gave Ron a B, I have two questions...
When did he start going bad?
OR
WTF does it take to earn an A?

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:37:57 PM EDT

[#3]

It probably has something to due with if Ron Paul had his way, there'd be very little reason for the NRA to exist.

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:42:09 PM EDT

[#4]

They gave Ron Paul a "B" because he opposed the Frivolous Lawsuit Protection for gun manufacturers on Constitutional grounds.

Stupid move by the NRA if you ask me. They give people who are a lot less solid than Rep. Ron Paul an "A" and then give the best ally they have in Congress a "B" because he won't violate his oath to protect the Constitution just to advance a cause he believes in.

Hopefully it at least signals that the NRA is being more serious about the grades it gives out and that they one day might serve as a useful guide for people that can be trusted. Until then, I am still using the GOA grades.

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:45:10 PM EDT

[#5]

They did endorse him for reelection.

CRC

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:48:10 PM EDT

[#6]

My rep, Virgil Goode, has an A+.

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:48:27 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Who the fuck is Ron Paul?

www.ronpaulforcongress.com/

Dear Friend,

Man's nature is unchanging, and so are the principles of liberty. And when I raise my hand to swear to Almighty God that I will preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, I mean it with all my heart, as you would. That's why, before every vote
I take, I ask if the legislation under consideration is constitutional. Of course, it virtually never is. That's why they call me, "Dr. No." I will not support any bill that violates the Constitution.
Signed by Ron Paul

Posted: 10/18/2004 1:51:50 PM EDT

[#8]

14 PAUL R A+

That is from GOA.

Posted: 10/18/2004 2:00:20 PM EDT

[#9]

Dear Friend,

Man's nature is unchanging, and so are the principles of liberty. And when I raise my hand to swear to Almighty God that I will preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, I mean it with all my heart, as you would. That's why, before every vote
I take, I ask if the legislation under consideration is constitutional. Of course, it virtually never is. That's why they call me, "Dr. No." I will not support any bill that violates the Constitution.
Signed by Ron Paul

So he'd probably be cool with a gay marriage ammendment and marijuana legalization then?

Right on!

Posted: 10/18/2004 2:01:15 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
They gave Ron Paul a "B" because he opposed the Frivolous Lawsuit Protection for gun manufacturers on Constitutional grounds.

Stupid move by the NRA if you ask me. They give people who are a lot less solid than Rep. Ron Paul an "A" and then give the best ally they have in Congress a "B" because he won't violate his oath to protect the Constitution just to advance a cause he believes in.

Hopefully it at least signals that the NRA is being more serious about the grades it gives out and that they one day might serve as a useful guide for people that can be trusted. Until then, I am still using the GOA grades.

Why does he feel it unconstitutional??? I'm not aware of any other company that has been sued because thier product was used by a criminal to commit a crime. Look at all the car companies that would get sued because some drunk was driving one of thier cars and slammed into somone and killed them.

I just don't see how it would be unconstitutional.

Posted: 10/18/2004 2:04:22 PM EDT

[#11]

RON PAUL deserves an A F*ing PLUS

Posted: 10/18/2004 2:05:00 PM EDT

[#12]

I think it's a constitutional regulation of interstate commerce. Firearms commerce is almost all interstate these days, after all.

Ron Paul is a good guy and though I don't agree with him on everything he is one of the best supporters of the 2nd amendment in Congress.

Posted: 10/18/2004 2:12:16 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Why does he feel it unconstitutional??? I'm not aware of any other company that has been sued because thier product was used by a criminal to commit a crime. Look at all the car companies that would get sued because some drunk was driving one of thier cars and slammed into somone and killed them.

I just don't see how it would be unconstitutional.

Check his website, he has a statement explaining his vote there.

Posted: 10/18/2004 2:33:52 PM EDT

[#14]

Dr. Paul is a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment, and I would vote for him in a heartbeat if I could.

Posted: 10/18/2004 3:46:37 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Why does he feel it unconstitutional??? I'm not aware of any other company that has been sued because thier product was used by a criminal to commit a crime. Look at all the car companies that would get sued because some drunk was driving one of thier cars and slammed into somone and killed them.

I just don't see how it would be unconstitutional.

Check his website, he has a statement explaining his vote there.

Thanks will do.

I talked to aguy who didn't support the PLCA and got him to lokk at it a different way, than he thought well yah it makes sence.

I used the same drunk driver car maker thing.

I mean really just imagine what would happen to the auto industry if somone sued a car maker everytime a drunk killed somone when driving and it was allowed to go through. It would destroy the auto industry. You don't see those types of lawsuits because for the most part people wouldn't hold a car maker responcable for the actions of drunk driver, right. Than why hold gun makers liable for the actions of criminals.........

It happens all the time doesn't it. Lawsuits against gunmakers for the actions of individuals. I got no problem with somone suing because of anctual unsafe firearm design, but I haven't seen any gun I'd consider an unsafe design, but than again, I'm only into some types of guns so there could be some out there.

I'll check out his site though and see what he says thanks for letting me know.

Posted: 10/18/2004 3:49:38 PM EDT

[#16]

ONe thing IVe seen while researching canidates is the NRA will give someone an A and GOA will only give them a B or C.

Posted: 10/18/2004 4:00:37 PM EDT

[#17]

To All:

Ron Paul is the man who is most responsible for KEEPING the AWB renewal off the House of Representatives floor so no vote could be taken.

He saved our BACON and NRA gives him a "B".hat
woofe

Posted: 10/18/2004 4:06:37 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
District 14
(R) *RON PAUL B

from nrapvf.org

My Representitive, Sander Levin got an F.

There is no way he's going to lose either.

Posted: 10/18/2004 4:16:21 PM EDT

[#19]

Face facts. The NRA is a special interest group. The BIGGEST single organized special interest group, as it turns out.

This special interest, which many of us share in, might want a little more than you can really read out of the Constitution and BOR, that is, if you're a truly honest and dispassionate reader.

Ron Paul is THE most dedicated and strictest Constitutionalist in Congress. If I were to be elected to either house of Congress, I would follow his lead very closely and seek to establish ties with him and his office before ANY other member of Congress.

He believes as I do, that after well over 200 years of laws passed by Congress, there's very little VALID reason to enact MORE laws except for the ones that involve the routine business of the government.

By now, every law that SHOULD exist probably does. From that point on, it's just incrementalism and the destruction of our freedoms, one law at a time.

The NRA deserves a D MINUS for giving Ron Paul anything other than an A PLUS. We have no stronger friend of CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED FREEDOMS than Ron Paul.

If Ron Paul thought that the bill to restrict lawsuits against the gun industry would have been an unConstitutional law, well, it probably IS, even though I would like to see an end to any lawsuits filed against any company over a non-defective product or one that was used by a criminal.

I value the entire Constitution and BOR as a whole more than I value any single amendment by itself.

CJ

Posted: 10/18/2004 4:18:57 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Who the fuck is Ron Paul?

Posted: 10/18/2004 4:20:01 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Face facts. The NRA is a special interest group. The BIGGEST single organized special interest group, as it turns out.

This special interest, which many of us share in, might want a little more than you can really read out of the Constitution and BOR, that is, if you're a truly honest and dispassionate reader.

Ron Paul is THE most dedicated and strictest Constitutionalist in Congress. If I were to be elected to either house of Congress, I would follow his lead very closely and seek to establish ties with him and his office before ANY other member of Congress.

He believes as I do, that after well over 200 years of laws passed by Congress, there's very little VALID reason to enact MORE laws except for the ones that involve the routine business of the government.

By now, every law that SHOULD exist probably does. From that point on, it's just incrementalism and the destruction of our freedoms, one law at a time.

The NRA deserves a D MINUS for giving Ron Paul anything other than an A PLUS. We have no stronger friend of CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED FREEDOMS than Ron Paul.

If Ron Paul thought that the bill to restrict lawsuits against the gun industry would have been an unConstitutional law, well, it probably IS, even though I would like to see an end to any lawsuits filed against any company over a non-defective product or one that was used by a criminal.

I value the entire Constitution and BOR as a whole more than I value any single amendment by itself.

CJ

You said it better than I ever could.

Posted: 10/18/2004 4:20:36 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Who the fuck is Ron Paul?

Posted: 10/19/2004 4:53:13 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Who the fuck is Ron Paul?

To expand on my eariler comments, I think that if Thomas Jefferson could have been made aware of the current situation regarding lawsuits by anti-gunners against the firearms industry, he would have probably made an effort to specifically prohibit this type of action by including a prohibition against it in the Constitution/BOR. Something along the lines of

"No person, agency, or entity shall attempt to injure by legal or other means, any entity that manufactures a non-defective product, whether or not that product is used to injure another person or entity in any way, shape, or form.. In such circumstances, liability shall reside solely upon the person or entity that was in manual possession or controlling said item. The manufacturer is specifically excluded from liability for the actions of others."

I think that about covers it.

CJ

Posted: 10/19/2004 5:29:05 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
It probably has something to due with if Ron Paul had his way, there'd be very little reason for the NRA to exist.

+1 Exactly correct.

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