

Posted: 5/9/2022 11:31:24 AM EDT
So many of you likely missed out on my old post in Team (hint: buy a membership) so am posting this in GD for maximum reach.
Today the NRA National Firearms Museum re-opened in Fairfax, VA. My two sons and I went to see where I had worked for 35 years as senior curator before I retired last year. Those that like going to museums that don't require masks or forehead temperature reading will like this facility. Just walked in. But sadly, that's about where the good news ends... There are a lot of missing guns and artifacts that used to be on display. So many great pieces. Where did they go? Some empty spots have the usual "Object Temporarily Removed" marker placed, but others - nope. In the last two years, maintenance of the galleries really didn't happen and the dust on so many historic pieces is not good. Labels have fallen and are in the process of falling in many cases. Lighting has not been adjusted in several galleries - so there are very bright and very dim sections - not good for paper and textile artifacts in the brightness. Even from outside the glass, there were many guns that really needed cleaning and perhaps some conservation - including the premier collection of Gatling guns. Damn... When I and other museum staff were forced out by furlough in 2020 - we had hundreds of arms prepared for the new Thurston Gallery. Well, those new cases look nice and were completed by an outside contractor (LaPierre must have been annoyed that his suit budget was curtailed), but the new contents were very recently added. Was told that it took three days to install a jumble of arms - disregarding a planned display arrangement that featured discrete organization and chronology. Very sad. In the course of our visit - Wiles Lee (NRA VP) came up and likely didn't know who I was. I introduced myself and pointed out some of the shortcomings. Lee walked off abruptly before I could ask about other NRA shenanigans. This became a theme for staff on premises as I ran next into Philip Schreier, the new Director. I asked Phil why he hadn't allowed me to take a farewell photo with other museum staff when I retired. Mr. Schreier must be angling for a bigger role at NRA as he denied I had even asked. When confronted by the fact that there had been witnesses to my request and that one of them was in earshot - suddenly Director Schreier decided to walk off quickly. And before I could ask about the missing guns and any auction plans. But you can bet that is in the immediate future. So how does the HQ building look? Not good. The outer tiles on both sides of the entry driveway have flaked off in a very unsightly manner. The underside of the overhang has many patched areas from leaks. Inside - I saw evidence of other leaks. Rust staining is seeping from window joints all over the building exterior. For those that may want to buy a souvenir - well - forget it. The NRA Store is not open. NRA didn't even bother to contact the individual who ran it (still furloughed, but found another job) so there are obviously no plans to re-open it for museum visitors. Yet there were four security staff on museum premises during my visit. Walking through the galleries, I found myself looking at a cannon - right in the middle of a junction of four pathways. No warning ropes even. In addition to impacting on ADA standards for the museum, it turns out the reason the cannon has been placed so awkwardly was to free up the Revolutionary War Gallery. Why? - so that food and drink can be served for special donor receptions, inside the museum. Professional museum folks are cringing by now and believe it or not, my old sign prohibiting food and drink inside was still posted outside. Bugs are attracted by food residues and move on to munch on museum objects quickly. Yes, I took pictures, but it is depressing enough to type this up. Most folks don't know the museum registrar who had been furloughed with me was finally offered her position back after two years, but too late - she moved on to other employment. So now there is a national museum with no professionally trained staff out in Fairfax. A facility with so many issues and problems now. Wasn't that way when I left, but what could you expect when the only responsible staffer on detail during the Covid furlough habitually slept at his desk and even in the NRA Cafe. And the NRA Cafe that offered great food (Steak/prime rib Thursdays) is no more - closed down forever. Well, it's no longer my circus and no longer my monkeys. But if you are thinking of visiting the NRA Museum - it's really not worth it anymore... rongorongo |
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It's sad, but the NRA needs to die and be replaced in its entirety.
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One out of two gets a rifle. The one without follows him! When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots!
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They should sell the entire collection off . And then use they money to fund pro 2a activities till they run out of money and then fold like the paper box they are
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So they fought for the museum the same way they fight for the 2A?
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But the exhibit of Wayne's suits is OK, right?
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I wasn't expecting you so soon. Usually I have to say "drunken half-wit" three times before you show up.
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This is sad and not at all surprising. Honestly, I'm more surprised they re-opened the facility where people like you can see the obvious mismanagement firsthand. Thank you for the update, I can't wait for the crooks in charge of the NRA to face some form of justice but that may just be wishful thinking.
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Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were selling off items to their board and execs at bottom dollar prices for their own collections.
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This is a travesty!!
But sadly, apparently business as usual at the NRA. Sorry you endured such shameful treatment! I just posted some less than complimentary comments on Mr. Schreier's public FB page. |
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Did they have a whole section dedicated to Wayne's ties?
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Originally Posted By rongorongo: There are a lot of missing guns and artifacts that used to be on display. So many great pieces. Where did they go? Some empty spots have the usual "Object Temporarily Removed" marker placed, but others - nope. View Quote I bet they sold off a lot of their museum holdings to meet general NRA expenses, legal expenses, and to buy silk suits for WLP. |
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The frost sometimes makes the blade stick!!
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Not a huge surprise, but still disappointing.
I would pop into the museum about once a year for twelve years or so. Even though not much was different (except for the Peterson Collection), as my interests changed I would discover new things every visit. |
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Thanks RongoRongo.
For those who don't know, the Registrar is the individual responsible for the collection. They must at the stroke of the finger know where each piece is located (on display, on loan, in transit, in conservation). No registrar means that objects can disappear and there is no accounting for it. Be warned if you were considering donating any object to them. I wouldn't. BTW, US Army has the only K98k with swept back scope mount for the (stamped construction) Zf4 scope. They can't find it in their collection. |
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Just this morning I'm filing out the loan agreement paperwork for an early American rifle exhibit for a museum in PA. It's going to have some of the best existing Rev War era examples of American longrifles. I believe they're going to publish a book on it as well. They seem to be on top of their game. I'm pretty excited to see all of these together where the public can enjoy.....
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Originally Posted By rongorongo: So many of you likely missed out on my old post in Team (hint: buy a membership) so am posting this in GD for maximum reach. Today the NRA National Firearms Museum re-opened in Fairfax, VA. My two sons and I went to see where I had worked for 35 years as senior curator before I retired last year. Those that like going to museums that don't require masks or forehead temperature reading will like this facility. Just walked in. But sadly, that's about where the good news ends... There are a lot of missing guns and artifacts that used to be on display. So many great pieces. Where did they go? Some empty spots have the usual "Object Temporarily Removed" marker placed, but others - nope. In the last two years, maintenance of the galleries really didn't happen and the dust on so many historic pieces is not good. Labels have fallen and are in the process of falling in many cases. Lighting has not been adjusted in several galleries - so there are very bright and very dim sections - not good for paper and textile artifacts in the brightness. Even from outside the glass, there were many guns that really needed cleaning and perhaps some conservation - including the premier collection of Gatling guns. Damn... When I and other museum staff were forced out by furlough in 2020 - we had hundreds of arms prepared for the new Thurston Gallery. Well, those new cases look nice and were completed by an outside contractor (LaPierre must have been annoyed that his suit budget was curtailed), but the new contents were very recently added. Was told that it took three days to install a jumble of arms - disregarding a planned display arrangement that featured discrete organization and chronology. Very sad. In the course of our visit - Wiles Lee (NRA VP) came up and likely didn't know who I was. I introduced myself and pointed out some of the shortcomings. Lee walked off abruptly before I could ask about other NRA shenanigans. This became a theme for staff on premises as I ran next into Philip Schreier, the new Director. I asked Phil why he hadn't allowed me to take a farewell photo with other museum staff when I retired. Mr. Schreier must be angling for a bigger role at NRA as he denied I had even asked. When confronted by the fact that there had been witnesses to my request and that one of them was in earshot - suddenly Director Schreier decided to walk off quickly. And before I could ask about the missing guns and any auction plans. But you can bet that is in the immediate future. So how does the HQ building look? Not good. The outer tiles on both sides of the entry driveway have flaked off in a very unsightly manner. The underside of the overhang has many patched areas from leaks. Inside - I saw evidence of other leaks. Rust staining is seeping from window joints all over the building exterior. For those that may want to buy a souvenir - well - forget it. The NRA Store is not open. NRA didn't even bother to contact the individual who ran it (still furloughed, but found another job) so there are obviously no plans to re-open it for museum visitors. Yet there were four security staff on museum premises during my visit. Walking through the galleries, I found myself looking at a cannon - right in the middle of a junction of four pathways. No warning ropes even. In addition to impacting on ADA standards for the museum, it turns out the reason the cannon has been placed so awkwardly was to free up the Revolutionary War Gallery. Why? - so that food and drink can be served for special donor receptions, inside the museum. Professional museum folks are cringing by now and believe it or not, my old sign prohibiting food and drink inside was still posted outside. Bugs are attracted by food residues and move on to munch on museum objects quickly. Yes, I took pictures, but it is depressing enough to type this up. Most folks don't know the museum registrar who had been furloughed with me was finally offered her position back after two years, but too late - she moved on to other employment. So now there is a national museum with no professionally trained staff out in Fairfax. A facility with so many issues and problems now. Wasn't that way when I left, but what could you expect when the only responsible staffer on detail during the Covid furlough habitually slept at his desk and even in the NRA Cafe. And the NRA Cafe that offered great food (Steak/prime rib Thursdays) is no more - closed down forever. Well, it's no longer my circus and no longer my monkeys. But if you are thinking of visiting the NRA Museum - it's really not worth it anymore... rongorongo View Quote That's really sad how you were treated and how they (NRA) are treating the museum. As a guesstimate, how many items on display were owned by the NRA vs how many were on loan from private individuals? I could see individuals wanting their property back before it gets tied up by the courts. |
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Originally Posted By DustBin: As a guesstimate, how many items on display were owned by the NRA vs how many were on loan from private individuals? I could see individuals wanting their property back before it gets tied up by the courts. View Quote That might account for holes in the displays. |
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Originally Posted By LawyerUp: Just this morning I'm filing out the loan agreement paperwork for an early American rifle exhibit for a museum in PA. It's going to have some of the best existing Rev War era examples of American longrifles. I believe they're going to publish a book on it as well. They seem to be on top of their game. I'm pretty excited to see all of these together where the public can enjoy..... View Quote @LawyerUp - what museum, opening date and exhibit name? |
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Sorry to hear. Retirement is like a divorce, it is supposed to be final.
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Originally Posted By lafmedic1: They should sell the entire collection off View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes They sure as hell are - slowly and trying to be under the radar about it. And then use they money to fund pro 2a activities ![]() That sure as hell isn't why things are being sold. |
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Originally Posted By DustBin: That's really sad how you were treated and how they (NRA) are treating the museum. As a guesstimate, how many items on display were owned by the NRA vs how many were on loan from private individuals? I could see individuals wanting their property back before it gets tied up by the courts. View Quote DustBin - At the time I left, we had very few loans. I did see where one 9/11 revolver was returned to the lender. Vast majority of material on display was from donations. rongorongo |
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That's what I love about Neanderthal girls man. I evolve, and they stay the same age...
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Impossible not to feel pangs watching "your baby" deteriorate.
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With saddened heart, In loving memory of Anita, viciously taken from the world too soon
May God bless you, be at peace. Your "guy in France" POS that murdered her died in custody 5.30.2020 The proud nail gets pounded down. |
I remember reading your previous thread about the museum, sad state of affairs all around.
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"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
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The problem with openly corrupt leadership is it tends to cascade down to every aspect of the organization and the psyche of the entire workforce.
The NRA is a nice case study on why institutionalized protection of the leadership such that they cannot be replaced, ends badly. I have written off the NRA as a corrupt and ineffectual organization of negative value. I pay my bare minimum REQUIRED NRA membership to continue participation in numerous competitive sports and range memberships, and am well aware it's a graft extortion that is the cost of doing business. The sooner the NRA collapses, the sooner they can be replaced by an ethical and effective replacement. It can't happen fast enough. As to the priceless artifacts of the museum, I am just assuming they are being stolen by the NRA leadership, until I hear otherwise. There is no " benefit of the doubt", left to give. |
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They'll probably auction it all off and use the money for questionable ventures and designer clothing for the board members. Sad.
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I bought my first NRA membership there. That sucks.
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thanks to whoever bought my membership.
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Sad. I was there about 5 years ago and very much enjoyed it. Small area, but packed to the gills with interesting and historic arms.
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That sucks, I really enjoyed the old layout.
In other news the new Army museum at Ft Belvoir is pretty awesome. |
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They are completing what they set out to do. Destroy it from within.
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Wayne LaPierre has destroyed the NRA. Fuck him. Fuck him with a Buick in the ass.
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Texas -
Bigger than France. "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." --RWR, 1964 |
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I heard a lot of the guns were taken by executives
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All of it’s sad, but the book store being closed really bugs me.
Picked up many great gun books there, often with the authors’ autographs in them. There was nowhere else you could buy them, aside from mail order. |
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That's really too bad. I visited there several years ago and spent a few hours with Mr. Schrier for my tour as we had a mutual friend. I thoroughly enjoyed the tour and the knowledge that was imparted. He seemed like a really good person and treated me very well.
Sad to hear how things have degraded. |
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Originally Posted By Jahdai42: That sucks, I really enjoyed the old layout. In other news the new Army museum at Ft Belvoir is pretty awesome. View Quote I don’t know—I was pretty underwhelmed by the Army museum. Seemed like it was mostly empty space. The Army collections in Belvoir storage are amazing, but little of it is on display, and we were promised a worthy successor to Aberdeen, but none of that stuff is there. |
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Destroying history is inexcusable. As is the way OP was treated, then and now.
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Any person or group that has loaned stuff to the NRA museum should probably be checking in on it or getting it back.
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Otto is my co-pilot.
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Originally Posted By Riter: @LawyerUp - what museum, opening date and exhibit name? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Riter: Originally Posted By LawyerUp: Just this morning I'm filing out the loan agreement paperwork for an early American rifle exhibit for a museum in PA. It's going to have some of the best existing Rev War era examples of American longrifles. I believe they're going to publish a book on it as well. They seem to be on top of their game. I'm pretty excited to see all of these together where the public can enjoy..... @LawyerUp - what museum, opening date and exhibit name? Historic Rock Ford in Lancaster. "Long Rifles of the American Revolution." June 1 to Oct. 30, 2022. |
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Sounds like it’s time for the museum to be sold off to Reed Knight.
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Fuck Wayne and fuck all his cronies.
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All they wanted was to get rich selling insurance and running their own media outlet.
Someone to protect the RKBA and promote the shooting sports is all that we wanted. Carry Guard and NRATV is what gun owners got. |
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Do they have any of Wayne’s suits on display?
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Feminism has robbed women of the natural dignity and grace of their sex, and turned them into inferior men
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Originally Posted By dnfw: This is a travesty!! But sadly, apparently business as usual at the NRA. Sorry you endured such shameful treatment! I just posted some less than complimentary comments on Mr. Schreier's public FB page. View Quote No big surprise that my comment has already been scrubbed from FB. His page is public should others wish to comment. https://m.facebook.com/389022114460469/ |
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