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Posted: 6/22/2017 1:14:49 AM EDT
SU-27 shows the F-16 it's teeth and it bugs out.  Not being reported in western news.  NATO is trying to get us into a war with Russia by continuously poking the Bear.

Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:15:39 AM EDT
Dupe
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:18:24 AM EDT
What the fuck channel is that? 
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:26:11 AM EDT
Please, don't post anything taken from RT and try to post it as fact. RT is owned by the Russian government, for God's sake.

And who is the hell is NATO? One of the Baltic states protecting their sovereignty? Because the Baltic Sea is not Russia's "back yard," as much as RT would like us to believe. It's the back yard of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Sweden. Not Russia. If it was the Gulf of Finland, maybe. But then if the aircraft flew too close to Finland or Estonia I would expect an escort from the respective nation's air force.

What a crock of Russian propaganda BS.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:39:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mattja:
Please, don't post anything taken from RT and try to post it as fact. RT is owned by the Russian government, for God's sake.

And who is the hell is NATO? One of the Baltic states protecting their sovereignty? Because the Baltic Sea is not Russia's "back yard," as much as RT would like us to believe. It's the back yard of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Sweden. Not Russia. If it was the Gulf of Finland, maybe. But then if the aircraft flew too close to Finland or Estonia I would expect an escort from the respective nation's air force.

What a crock of Russian propaganda BS.
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So, it didn't happen?  Hell, I believe RT more than CNN.  

Russian Defence ministers plane diverted from it's flight plan and strayed too far to another NATO nation?  No, this is intimidation tactics and provocation.  

We need to let things cool down over there and maybe we'll all come out of this without being nuked.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:47:35 AM EDT
So,so,so much derp.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:48:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:48:50 AM EDT
Commenter has no clue. "Almost intercepted " lol
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:51:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By davidb1982:
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yes it is.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2005875_Russian-fighter-displays-its-weapons-to-warn-off-F-16-NATO-jet.html
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:53:33 AM EDT
This isn't a big deal. It happens almost daily now. It happened almost daily throughout most of the Cold War as well. This is just business getting back to normal after a 25 year thaw.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:55:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mattja:
Please, don't post anything taken from RT and try to post it as fact. RT is owned by the Russian government, for God's sake.

And who is the hell is NATO? One of the Baltic states protecting their sovereignty? Because the Baltic Sea is not Russia's "back yard," as much as RT would like us to believe. It's the back yard of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Sweden. Not Russia. If it was the Gulf of Finland, maybe. But then if the aircraft flew too close to Finland or Estonia I would expect an escort from the respective nation's air force.

What a crock of Russian propaganda BS.
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  The Estonian Air Force isn't exactly intimidating



  It is well within a nation's right to police its airspace. The US did not want Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania to operate any aircraft that would be provocative to Russia so the Baltic Air Police role is done on a rotational basis by other NATO forces. At the moment it is being done by Polish F-16s,such as this one,based in Lithuania and Spanish Hornets in Estonia. The F-16 did not do anything aggressive,nor did it run in fear.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:59:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Drone_Operator:
So, it didn't happen?  Hell, I believe RT more than CNN.  

Russian Defence ministers plane diverted from it's flight plan and strayed too far to another NATO nation?  No, this is intimidation tactics and provocation.  

We need to let things cool down over there and maybe we'll all come out of this without being nuked.
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Originally Posted By Drone_Operator:
Originally Posted By mattja:
Please, don't post anything taken from RT and try to post it as fact. RT is owned by the Russian government, for God's sake.

And who is the hell is NATO? One of the Baltic states protecting their sovereignty? Because the Baltic Sea is not Russia's "back yard," as much as RT would like us to believe. It's the back yard of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Sweden. Not Russia. If it was the Gulf of Finland, maybe. But then if the aircraft flew too close to Finland or Estonia I would expect an escort from the respective nation's air force.

What a crock of Russian propaganda BS.
So, it didn't happen?  Hell, I believe RT more than CNN.  

Russian Defence ministers plane diverted from it's flight plan and strayed too far to another NATO nation?  No, this is intimidation tactics and provocation.  

We need to let things cool down over there and maybe we'll all come out of this without being nuked.
If you believe anything RT says, I can't help you. You do understand they are a mouthpiece of the Russian state, like TASS? I would believe CNN on some issues. But I would not trust RT on any issue.

There are other stories about what happened besides the crazy RT BS. In most reports, NATO aircraft approached an unknown trio of aircraft that did not respond to air traffic control. This is why NATO aircraft approached. I have yet to determine which nation it was, but most likely the aircraft came from Lithuania, Latvia, or Estonia, being that the Russian aircraft are reported to have originated in Kaliningrad. Perhaps they strayed too close to the coastlines of these NATO member states? I don't know, but NATO is saying it was routine.

This kind of stuff is nothing new. It's been going on since the end of WWII. That's 70+ years.

Russian aircraft has flown close to American and NATO aircraft for decades.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:02:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
  The Estonian Air Force isn't exactly intimidating

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Estonian_L-39%2C_Amari_Air_Base%2C_June_6%2C_2013.jpg

  It is well within a nation's right to police its airspace. The US did not want Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania to operate any aircraft that would be provocative to Russia so the Baltic Air Police role is done on a rotational basis by other NATO forces. At the moment it is being done by Polish F-16s,such as this one,based in Lithuania and Spanish Hornets in Estonia. The F-16 did not do anything aggressive,nor did it run in fear.
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Originally Posted By mattja:
Please, don't post anything taken from RT and try to post it as fact. RT is owned by the Russian government, for God's sake.

And who is the hell is NATO? One of the Baltic states protecting their sovereignty? Because the Baltic Sea is not Russia's "back yard," as much as RT would like us to believe. It's the back yard of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Sweden. Not Russia. If it was the Gulf of Finland, maybe. But then if the aircraft flew too close to Finland or Estonia I would expect an escort from the respective nation's air force.

What a crock of Russian propaganda BS.
  The Estonian Air Force isn't exactly intimidating

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Estonian_L-39%2C_Amari_Air_Base%2C_June_6%2C_2013.jpg

  It is well within a nation's right to police its airspace. The US did not want Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania to operate any aircraft that would be provocative to Russia so the Baltic Air Police role is done on a rotational basis by other NATO forces. At the moment it is being done by Polish F-16s,such as this one,based in Lithuania and Spanish Hornets in Estonia. The F-16 did not do anything aggressive,nor did it run in fear.
Good for Poland.

If anyone knows what Russia really is it's the Poles.

They seem to know a lot about Islam too, but that's a different thread.

Anyway, routine interception. Been happening since the end of WWII. Nothing to see here.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:02:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Drone_Operator:


So, it didn't happen?  Hell, I believe RT more than CNN.  

Russian Defence ministers plane diverted from it's flight plan and strayed too far to another NATO nation?  No, this is intimidation tactics and provocation.  

We need to let things cool down over there and maybe we'll all come out of this without being nuked.
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Nope, we need (the west) to keep right on shoving Ivan around, because it's the only thing he understands.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:04:16 AM EDT
Hmmm, you're a leftist?

I'd be like Air Force One being intercepted by a SU-27.  This is a new level of escalation.

Fighters intercepting bombers is cool but intercepting the Russian Foreign Ministers plane over international waters with a fighter escort like an SU-27 is just asking to be shot down.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:14:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Drone_Operator:
Hmmm, you're a leftist?

I'd be like Air Force One being intercepted by a SU-27.  This is a new level of escalation.

Fighters intercepting bombers is cool but intercepting the Russian Foreign Ministers plane over international waters with a fighter escort like an SU-27 is just asking to be shot down.
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Ok I'm not military so I should probably listen instead of posting. But I'll ask anyway.

What are the chances of SU-27's actually intercepting AF1? I'll go out on a limb here and say zero chance.

I have read somewhere the President's plane is escorted by our fighters.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:16:23 AM EDT
Again??
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:17:28 AM EDT
My PP is so hard.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:18:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mattja:


If you believe anything RT MSM says, I can't help you. You do understand they are a mouthpiece of the Russian state Globalists, like TASS Huff Post? I would believe CNN RT on some issues. But I would not trust RT MSM on any issue.

This kind of stuff is nothing new. It's been going on since the end of WWII. That's 70+ years.
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FIX'ed
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:21:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Drone_Operator:
Hmmm, you're a leftist?

I'd be like Air Force One being intercepted by a SU-27.  This is a new level of escalation.

Fighters intercepting bombers is cool but intercepting the Russian Foreign Ministers plane over international waters with a fighter escort like an SU-27 is just asking to be shot down.
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Like MH17?

Fuck Russia. They can eat a dick and die.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:56:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Like MH17?

Fuck Russia. They can eat a dick and die.
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Mistakes happen.  Iranian Flight 655.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 2:57:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bland85:

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Totally FIX'ed!  Thanks!
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 3:11:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Drone_Operator:
Hmmm, you're a leftist?

I'd be like Air Force One being intercepted by a SU-27.  This is a new level of escalation.

Fighters intercepting bombers is cool but intercepting the Russian Foreign Ministers plane over international waters with a fighter escort like an SU-27 is just asking to be shot down.
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It's my understanding the NATO allies went up because the Russian trio did not respond to air traffic control, and when they got up there they still probably had no idea the aircraft carried a Russian minister. But once identified as Russian, the aircraft bailed as they always do.

Not an escalation; not anything special. Routine.

As far as AF1, AF1 is pretty clearly marked and I doubt the USAF would let anything get that close to it.

If the Russians responded, this probably would have never happened.
Link Posted: 6/22/2017 3:12:28 AM EDT
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There was probably an F-22 shadowing them from a little farther back ready to blow all the Russian planes out of the sky if the Flanker had gotten froggy  
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