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Posted: 10/21/2016 3:47:58 PM EDT
Amazing time to be alive where we have these kinds of capabilities.

http://www.space.com/34472-exomars-mars-lander-crash-site-photos.html
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:50:15 PM EDT
Does Geico cover such an accident
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:53:55 PM EDT
Maybe nasa should look for plane crashes off the coast of Australia.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:01:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Maybe nasa should look for plane crashes off the coast of Australia.
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They don't have the budget or manpower to do that.

They've been retasked with bolstering Moose-lum self-esteem, remember?
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:06:26 PM EDT
Looks like a violent impact. Hope it didn't kill anyone on the ground..
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
The black dot reminds me of all the Bugs Bunny cartoons where Wile E. Coyote would fall off the cliff, recede to a pin-point as you looked down and.... (whap...)
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Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:11:06 PM EDT
Happens on this planet too.

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MRO is pretty awesome. The work we did on that is the basis for stuff we are literally still building today.

Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:00:53 PM EDT

It was kind of a lame probe anyway, only had enough power to last a few days.

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Originally Posted By jlficken:
Does Geico cover such an accident
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Nope, they forgot to spend the 15 minutes to save 15%. Their insurance told them to check out page 22 which said blah blah blah blah.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:10:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PAspeedmaster:
http://i.imgur.com/Qisu0l7.jpg
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Man has arrived.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:16:25 PM EDT
Maybe they can get Mark Walhberg to send signals back with an old rover camera.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:18:18 PM EDT
ESA just doesn't have much luck with landers.
Beagle II crashed on Mars with no return of data.
Huygens lost half of its data return due to a communications failure.
Philae landed in a gully and only just met mission minimums for data return before running out of power.
Now Schiaparelli...
Better luck next time, guys.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:27:20 PM EDT
$350 million - down the tubes
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:33:59 PM EDT
Article said that it had a near full tank and likely exploded on impact.
So, the Martians have been bombed.
In before the retaliatory strike.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:38:43 PM EDT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOSERS!
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:44:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Amazing time to be alive where we have these kinds of capabilities.

http://www.space.com/34472-exomars-mars-lander-crash-site-photos.html
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but they cant find an airliner
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:46:27 PM EDT
Congratulations Europe, for the first explosion on another planet!
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:48:24 PM EDT
Clean up on planet 4.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:52:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By T-bolt:
Article said that it had a near full tank and likely exploded on impact.
So, the Martians have been bombed.
In before the retaliatory strike.
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Plus nuclear batteries on board
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:00:33 PM EDT
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Meanwhile...



ETA:
These rovers were probably the best money NASA has spent since Apollo.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:03:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2016 9:03:50 PM EDT by Demosthenes99]
Umm, I'd hate to burst your bubble guys but NASA once had a probe burn up in Mars' atmosphere because they mixed up feet and meters.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:06:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scott_In_OKC:
Meanwhile...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_(rover)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_(rover)



ETA:
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This !!
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:09:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scott_In_OKC:
Meanwhile...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_(rover)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_(rover)



ETA:
These rovers were probably the best money NASA has spent since Apollo.
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None of it Constitutional. Taxation is theft.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:12:03 PM EDT
I hope Mars doesn't declare war on earth.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:17:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By T-bolt:
Article said that it had a near full tank and likely exploded on impact.
So, the Martians have been bombed.
In before the retaliatory strike.
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Left a smoking hole in the Martian soil from the looks of it.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:20:21 PM EDT
First Human made explosion on Mars
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Originally Posted By America-first:
Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
The black dot reminds me of all the Bugs Bunny cartoons where Wile E. Coyote would fall off the cliff, recede to a pin-point as you looked down and.... (whap...)


http://www.cartoonbucket.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Wile.E-Coyote-Falling-Down-Animated-Picture.gif



how I enjoyed these when I was young

Link Posted: 10/21/2016 11:37:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:


We plowed one into Mars, too. Stupid metric system.

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Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By stevem1a:
ESA just doesn't have much luck with landers.
Beagle II crashed on Mars with no return of data.
Huygens lost half of its data return due to a communications failure.
Philae landed in a gully and only just met mission minimums for data return before running out of power.
Now Schiaparelli...
Better luck next time, guys.


We plowed one into Mars, too. Stupid metric system.



Link Posted: 10/21/2016 11:47:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2016 11:47:50 PM EDT by midcap]
Freaking EuroLosers.

Your economies suck and you can't even space properly.

Enjoy your old as infrastructure and tiny homes.

There's a reason my family left Europe!

Link Posted: 10/21/2016 11:48:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:


We plowed one into Mars, too. Stupid metric system.

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Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By stevem1a:
ESA just doesn't have much luck with landers.
Beagle II crashed on Mars with no return of data.
Huygens lost half of its data return due to a communications failure.
Philae landed in a gully and only just met mission minimums for data return before running out of power.
Now Schiaparelli...
Better luck next time, guys.


We plowed one into Mars, too. Stupid metric system.



The NASA probe that failed due to use of both metric and Imperial measurements was the Mars Climate Orbiter.
It burned up in the martian atmosphere because it flew too close to the surface.
NASA banned the use of Imperial measurements after this mishap.
The NASA lander that crashed was the Mars Polar Lander.
It crashed due to its descent rocket engine shutting down while the probe was about 100 meters above the ground.
The MPL failure appears to be similar to that of Schiaparelli.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 11:49:25 PM EDT
... say what you want about NASA, they once knew systems engineering
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Link Posted: 10/22/2016 12:57:15 AM EDT
In before Spain claims it.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 1:27:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:



The good news is that's where the ARES mission is headed in a few years, so Mark Watney will have more stuff to work with when he's get stranded now.

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Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By stevem1a:
Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By stevem1a:
ESA just doesn't have much luck with landers.
Beagle II crashed on Mars with no return of data.
Huygens lost half of its data return due to a communications failure.
Philae landed in a gully and only just met mission minimums for data return before running out of power.
Now Schiaparelli...
Better luck next time, guys.


We plowed one into Mars, too. Stupid metric system.



The NASA probe that failed due to use of both metric and Imperial measurements was the Mars Climate Orbiter.
It burned up in the martian atmosphere because it flew too close to the surface.
NASA banned the use of Imperial measurements after this mishap.
The NASA lander that crashed was the Mars Polar Lander.
It crashed due to its descent rocket engine shutting down while the probe was about 100 meters above the ground.
The MPL failure appears to be similar to that of Schiaparelli.



The good news is that's where the ARES mission is headed in a few years, so Mark Watney will have more stuff to work with when he's get stranded now.

Screw Mark Watney.
We should leave him the next time he gets stranded there.
Bastard has cost us enough money, since back in the mid '40s.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 1:38:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scott_In_OKC:
Meanwhile...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_(rover)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_(rover)



ETA:
These rovers were probably the best money NASA has spent since Apollo.
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Link Posted: 10/22/2016 2:03:17 AM EDT
interplanetary travel be hard. Yo
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 2:36:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Demosthenes99:
Umm, I'd hate to burst your bubble guys but NASA once had a probe burn up in Mars' atmosphere because they mixed up feet and meters.
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Yup, but this one was all on the Euros.



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Link Posted: 10/22/2016 2:54:20 AM EDT
Would be cool if they could explore on Mars "Valles Marineris", a super Grand Canyon much larger then ours.







Scale compared to the Unites States. Would extend past end to end.






Link Posted: 10/22/2016 6:44:28 AM EDT
More interesting is the article at the link about the search for the 9th planet. Apparently they've done the math and believe it to be far more likely than not that there is another major planet in the solar system and that it's just a matter of time before those looking finally spot it given how many are looking this time around and how good some of the telescopes used are.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 7:03:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Would be cool if they could explore on Mars "Valles Marineris", a super Grand Canyon much larger then ours.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/grandcanal.gif

http://myscienceacademy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/canyon.jpg



Scale compared to the Unites States. Would extend past end to end.

http://static.mars.asu.edu/uploads/MESDT/Valles%20Marineris%20US%20Overlay.jpg



http://image.slidesharecdn.com/marsplanet-120921115342-phpapp02/95/mars-planet-12-728.jpg?cb=1348228524
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No. The Grand Canyon is only 277 miles long.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 9:28:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
More interesting is the article at the link about the search for the 9th planet. Apparently they've done the math and believe it to be far more likely than not that there is another major planet in the solar system and that it's just a matter of time before those looking finally spot it given how many are looking this time around and how good some of the telescopes used are.
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I don't understand how they could find a non-planet like Pluto so easily, but a planet-sized planet still eludes them after spending so much time mapping stuff so much further away in such grand detail, compared to what they did with poorly ground lenses 150 years ago.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 9:35:36 AM EDT
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I'd say they still do.

They just aren't cheap about it, and it takes forever to do. Curiosity is amazing and is now 2 years beyond the primary mission date with no end in sight. Unlike spirit/opportunity, it is powered by an RTG which means it could last 20 years.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 9:37:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Would be cool if they could explore on Mars "Valles Marineris", a super Grand Canyon much larger then ours.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/grandcanal.gif




http://myscienceacademy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/canyon.jpg



Scale compared to the Unites States. Would extend past end to end.

http://static.mars.asu.edu/uploads/MESDT/Valles%20Marineris%20US%20Overlay.jpg



http://image.slidesharecdn.com/marsplanet-120921115342-phpapp02/95/mars-planet-12-728.jpg?cb=1348228524
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It's clearly excavation work for StarKiller Base.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 9:49:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Happens on this planet too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhCrOdbOUkY
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that stayed together remarkably well.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 10:10:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
More interesting is the article at the link about the search for the 9th planet. Apparently they've done the math and believe it to be far more likely than not that there is another major planet in the solar system and that it's just a matter of time before those looking finally spot it given how many are looking this time around and how good some of the telescopes used are.
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Mike Brown, the renown planetary science guy says we will locate it within 16 months.

Big problem/issue is what to do once we find it - Earth based telescopes/etc will only do so much, a probe is MUCH more useful to study it, but with current tech it would take forever to travel there.
Link Posted: 10/22/2016 10:14:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moose:
Originally Posted By Scott_In_OKC:
Meanwhile...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_(rover)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_(rover)



ETA:
These rovers were probably the best money NASA has spent since Apollo.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/288/20377296946_1ca710ef79_o.png


Awesome!
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