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Posted: 10/19/2013 7:44:57 AM EST
NAGR spent about 4 dollars per every one dollar spent by the NRA in 2nd quarter.

"The Virginia-based National Association for Gun Rights spent more than $3 million from April through June to advocate against dozens of firearm-related bills and amendments. That’s nearly four times the second-quarter lobbying expenditures of the better-known National Rifle Association, which itself spent a near-record $840,000 during the year’s second quarter."

News story
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Dudley Brown. nope.gif
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 7:48:27 AM EST
so they are buying votes.




Link Posted: 10/19/2013 7:48:56 AM EST
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Just spending money doesn't make you effective.

Also, did they include all branches of the NRA?

How much overhead do they have?

How much does Dudley Brown make?
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Originally Posted By 82nd_Sapper:
Just spending money doesn't make you effective.

Also, did they include all branches of the NRA?

How much overhead do they have?

How much does Dudley Brown make?
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This is just the lobbying. NRA spends a lot of money on other projects including gun safety and youth shooting programs. The NRA is a great organization but it is no longer THE gun lobby.
Link Posted: 10/19/2013 7:55:39 AM EST
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Screw NAGR. They're like Michael Savage and spend all their time bitching about their "competition".

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Link Posted: 10/19/2013 8:17:53 AM EST


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.





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Nothing but lies and bullshit
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This, NAGR is a known scammer organization. They only lobby for more donations.
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Originally Posted By 82nd_Sapper:
Just spending money doesn't make you effective.

Also, did they include all branches of the NRA?

How much overhead do they have?

How much does Dudley Brown make?
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Dudley is NAGR rich.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:


This is just the lobbying. NRA spends a lot of money on other projects including gun safety and youth shooting programs. The NRA is a great organization but it is no longer THE gun lobby.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By 82nd_Sapper:
Just spending money doesn't make you effective.

Also, did they include all branches of the NRA?

How much overhead do they have?

How much does Dudley Brown make?


This is just the lobbying. NRA spends a lot of money on other projects including gun safety and youth shooting programs. The NRA is a great organization but it is no longer THE gun lobby.





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Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.

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They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb
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Originally Posted By JAMES77257:



Dudley is NAGR rich.
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Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Originally Posted By 82nd_Sapper:
Just spending money doesn't make you effective.

Also, did they include all branches of the NRA?

How much overhead do they have?

How much does Dudley Brown make?



Dudley is NAGR rich.



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Strait from old Dudley Do-Wrong himself.
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I've read all the stuff on him and none of it is conclusive. Sounds like he is a control freak.
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First thing that came to my mind
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:


They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.



They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb


No.

'They' won't.

It's a scam. Stop being so easily fooled.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 7:05:47 PM EST
NAGR, please.
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get out of my head!
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 7:14:27 PM EST
Added a poll
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Originally Posted By CitizenQ:


No.

'They' won't.

It's a scam. Stop being so easily fooled.
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Originally Posted By CitizenQ:
Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.



They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb


No.

'They' won't.

It's a scam. Stop being so easily fooled.

It wil probably turn out to be like zeros twitter followers
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Originally Posted By JAMES77257:



Dudley is NAGR rich.
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Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Originally Posted By 82nd_Sapper:
Just spending money doesn't make you effective.

Also, did they include all branches of the NRA?

How much overhead do they have?

How much does Dudley Brown make?



Dudley is NAGR rich.


Aaaaaaahhh!!!!!
You're killing me here!
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 7:35:08 PM EST

OP is sounding more and more like a shill.
Link Posted: 10/21/2013 7:39:14 PM EST
Maybe its Dudley's troll account?
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:


They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.



They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb


Likes on facebook does not equate to membership....

And stop sending me spam!
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Originally Posted By NYPrivateer:
Maybe its Dudley's troll account?
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Here are links to the two NRA giveaways I've done here on arfcom.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1436070&page=1
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1473094&page=1

I doubt Dudley would have done that.


It seems like if anyone has a differing view than the nuts here in GD they are pretty much dismissed as trolls. You loonies are doing a good job proving that your information on NAGR is less reliable than I would have otherwise thought.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:


Here are links to the two NRA giveaways I've done here on arfcom.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1436070&page=1
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1473094&page=1

I doubt Dudley would have done that.


It seems like if anyone has a differing view than the nuts here in GD they are pretty much dismissed as trolls. You loonies are doing a good job proving that your information on NAGR is less reliable than I would have otherwise thought.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By NYPrivateer:
Maybe its Dudley's troll account?


Here are links to the two NRA giveaways I've done here on arfcom.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1436070&page=1
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1473094&page=1

I doubt Dudley would have done that.


It seems like if anyone has a differing view than the nuts here in GD they are pretty much dismissed as trolls. You loonies are doing a good job proving that your information on NAGR is less reliable than I would have otherwise thought.


Don't go away mad. Just go away.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:


Here are links to the two NRA giveaways I've done here on arfcom.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1436070&page=1
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1473094&page=1

I doubt Dudley would have done that.


It seems like if anyone has a differing view than the nuts here in GD they are pretty much dismissed as trolls. You loonies are doing a good job proving that your information on NAGR is less reliable than I would have otherwise thought.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By NYPrivateer:
Maybe its Dudley's troll account?


Here are links to the two NRA giveaways I've done here on arfcom.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1436070&page=1
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1473094&page=1

I doubt Dudley would have done that.


It seems like if anyone has a differing view than the nuts here in GD they are pretty much dismissed as trolls. You loonies are doing a good job proving that your information on NAGR is less reliable than I would have otherwise thought.


It is kind of amazing that you ended up taking the same road as Dudley did when he addressed this board. He avoided the salient issues and went right to the insults too.

Amazing coincidence!



If indeed we are all loonies, then why bother with the giveaways? Something about you and this thread ain't right.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Are you a betting man?



Dudley Brown personally came to this site and called the membership "cockbreaths." You may as well save your effort and time in trying to pimp him and his scam outfit here.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.



They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.
https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb

Are you a betting man?



Dudley Brown personally came to this site and called the membership "cockbreaths." You may as well save your effort and time in trying to pimp him and his scam outfit here.


I'm looking into why NAGR is building up so much backing in such a short period of time. You guys can dismiss them as a scam but they will divert million and tens of millions of pro gun dollars to their organization. Perhaps it's a better idea to keep an eye on them than to simply dismiss them and forget about them.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:


I'm looking into why NAGR is building up so much backing in such a short period of time. You guys can dismiss them as a scam but they will divert million and tens of millions of pro gun dollars to their organization. Perhaps it's a better idea to keep an eye on them than to simply dismiss them and forget about them.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.



They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.
https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb

Are you a betting man?



Dudley Brown personally came to this site and called the membership "cockbreaths." You may as well save your effort and time in trying to pimp him and his scam outfit here.


I'm looking into why NAGR is building up so much backing in such a short period of time. You guys can dismiss them as a scam but they will divert million and tens of millions of pro gun dollars to their organization. Perhaps it's a better idea to keep an eye on them than to simply dismiss them and forget about them.


I tend to automatically dismiss people who insult me and call me a cockbreath whilst trying to get donations out of me, must just be a personal flaw.
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Originally Posted By Range_Officer:


It is kind of amazing that you ended up taking the same road as Dudley did when he addressed this board. He avoided the salient issues and went right to the insults too.

Amazing coincidence!



If indeed we are all loonies, then why bother with the giveaways? Something about you and this thread ain't right.
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Originally Posted By Range_Officer:
Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By NYPrivateer:
Maybe its Dudley's troll account?


Here are links to the two NRA giveaways I've done here on arfcom.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1436070&page=1
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1473094&page=1

I doubt Dudley would have done that.


It seems like if anyone has a differing view than the nuts here in GD they are pretty much dismissed as trolls. You loonies are doing a good job proving that your information on NAGR is less reliable than I would have otherwise thought.


It is kind of amazing that you ended up taking the same road as Dudley did when he addressed this board. He avoided the salient issues and went right to the insults too.

Amazing coincidence!



If indeed we are all loonies, then why bother with the giveaways? Something about you and this thread ain't right.


There are a lot of ARFCOM members who completely avoid GD because of the problems here, such as the very poor way in which new members (13ers) are treated. Now you accuse me of being someone I have never even met. What do you expect me to think?
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I divorced her because she was a NAGR lover!
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When NAGR first came around nearly every press release and article on their site was some version of "The NRA sucks and we get things done so give us your money!".

Any business that spends their time bad mouthing the competition won't get jack from me.

2AF, JPFO and others talk about what THEY are doing and come at the issue from different angles without trash talking what should be their allies.

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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

I'm thinking the "nuts" here can do without a "me too" scam outfit that has ZERO accountability to the membership. Where/when is the annual meeting? Elections? Accounting?

As I said--give it up. You aren't going to have success here. You will do better pimping them on sites with stupid members. I can't think of any, so don't ask.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By thelaststand:
Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.



They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.
https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb

Are you a betting man?



Dudley Brown personally came to this site and called the membership "cockbreaths." You may as well save your effort and time in trying to pimp him and his scam outfit here.


I'm looking into why NAGR is building up so much backing in such a short period of time. You guys can dismiss them as a scam but they will divert million and tens of millions of pro gun dollars to their organization. Perhaps it's a better idea to keep an eye on them than to simply dismiss them and forget about them.

I'm thinking the "nuts" here can do without a "me too" scam outfit that has ZERO accountability to the membership. Where/when is the annual meeting? Elections? Accounting?

As I said--give it up. You aren't going to have success here. You will do better pimping them on sites with stupid members. I can't think of any, so don't ask.


Actually I'm not pimping them. I'm trying to get a reaction out of y'all.

The reaction seems to be that I am Dudley Brown. That's kind of funny.

I've gone through the other thread and failed to find any solid evidence of NAGR being a real scam. I'm not saying they are not a scam, but still, no solid evidence that can hold up in court. The only thing I can find is something about RGMO not filing their taxes correctly. Has someone bothered to investigate Dudley Brown? Does he have a 100 million dollar house? Does he have a private jet? Does he drive a million dollar car? If this is truly a scam I'm sure he is committing a few felonies given that he is now working with a membership base in the millions and with tens of millions of dollars.
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DAT NAME
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I've read all the stuff on him and none of it is conclusive. Sounds like he is a control freak.
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I've read all the stuff on him and none of it is conclusive. Sounds like he is a control freak.


Not conclusive? The dickhead is running a scam, he's a lying sack of shit and he can't even man up when called out on it. He's violated numerous Federal Laws concerning donations such as pandering for donations under false pretenses.

Anyone that supports him cannot have an IQ over room temperature. The guy is a flake and a fake. He knows it, everyone knows it.
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Actually I'm not pimping them. I'm trying to get a reaction out of y'all.

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Go on......
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golly gee whiz willickers

where oh where do we sign up for this awesome scam that's going to be more gooder than the dumb ol NRA?

Also, I'd like some of those 3 million pretend un-dollars being spent according to that phony "news article".


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Actually I'm not pimping them. I'm trying to get a reaction out of y'all.

The reaction seems to be that I am Dudley Brown. That's kind of funny.

I've gone through the other thread and failed to find any solid evidence of NAGR being a real scam. I'm not saying they are not a scam, but still, no solid evidence that can hold up in court. The only thing I can find is something about RGMO not filing their taxes correctly. Has someone bothered to investigate Dudley Brown? Does he have a 100 million dollar house? Does he have a private jet? Does he drive a million dollar car? If this is truly a scam I'm sure he is committing a few felonies given that he is now working with a membership base in the millions and with tens of millions of dollars.
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Originally Posted By thelaststand:


They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.
https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb

Are you a betting man?



Dudley Brown personally came to this site and called the membership "cockbreaths." You may as well save your effort and time in trying to pimp him and his scam outfit here.


I'm looking into why NAGR is building up so much backing in such a short period of time. You guys can dismiss them as a scam but they will divert million and tens of millions of pro gun dollars to their organization. Perhaps it's a better idea to keep an eye on them than to simply dismiss them and forget about them.

I'm thinking the "nuts" here can do without a "me too" scam outfit that has ZERO accountability to the membership. Where/when is the annual meeting? Elections? Accounting?

As I said--give it up. You aren't going to have success here. You will do better pimping them on sites with stupid members. I can't think of any, so don't ask.


Actually I'm not pimping them. I'm trying to get a reaction out of y'all.

The reaction seems to be that I am Dudley Brown. That's kind of funny.

I've gone through the other thread and failed to find any solid evidence of NAGR being a real scam. I'm not saying they are not a scam, but still, no solid evidence that can hold up in court. The only thing I can find is something about RGMO not filing their taxes correctly. Has someone bothered to investigate Dudley Brown? Does he have a 100 million dollar house? Does he have a private jet? Does he drive a million dollar car? If this is truly a scam I'm sure he is committing a few felonies given that he is now working with a membership base in the millions and with tens of millions of dollars.



Then you've done a piss poor job of examining the other thread. In the OP post, my post, I call him out on his claim of a non existent law that he "cannot" violate". Here's your challenge. Find the law he can't violate. Good luck finding it because it doesn't exist and never has existed. If you can't figure that out, that's your problem. Don't insult us because we see him for the lying, scamming, bitch he is.

But I guess lying to get money for your personal gain isn't a scam to you.
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ALL HAIL ZOLTAN!

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They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb
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Originally Posted By junkdog:


Is this verified to be true or is Dudley just "cooking the books" so to speak to make

it appear that NAGR is bigger and more powerful than it really is to draw in more

members and money. I don't know anyone who is a member.



They have 2.4 million facebook likes. They will surpase the NRA in membership within a year.

https://www.facebook.com/nagrfb

Facebook likes != members.

They do make cool photoshops, and that gets them likes, but not money.
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Then you've done a piss poor job of examining the other thread. In the OP post, my post, I call him out on his claim of a non existent law that he "cannot" violate". Here's your challenge. Find the law he can't violate. Good luck finding it because it doesn't exist and never has existed. If you can't figure that out, that's your problem. Don't insult us because we see him for the lying, scamming, bitch he is.

But I guess lying to get money for your personal gain isn't a scam to you.
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Lying to gain membership is certainly not a good thing but I've seen other pro gun groups like GOA doing it in the past. The question is, where does all the money go? Are they (NAGR) spending it on pro gun causes or are they pocketing it?
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I didn't say that you and Dudley were the same person. I just think it is quite a coincidence that you are reacting the same way he did. Hint: he reacted poorly.

But I'm glad you fessed up to the part in red. I think that pretty much sums up what you're trying to do in this thread.

If you fall for Dudley's scam, which it looks as if you have, I guess that is your business. Maybe it is your business. Maybe you are affiliated with them, I don't know and I don't care. But a critical thinker would not read the other thread and get a warm fuzzy feeling about Dudley. He dodged very reasonable, albeit pointed questions. When people start dodging like that, I think it ruins their credibility.

You want to spend your hard earned money supporting an organization like that? Knock yourself out. Dudley will never get a dime from me of any of my gun owning friends if I have anything to do with it.
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Seriously. I'm not a NAGR lover, either.

I'm fairly certain that every cent of the (alleged) $3 million was spent on sending me spam.
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In 2010, the NRA-ILA said:

"We have looked into NAGR and found that they are not registered as federal lobbyists with the U.S. Congress, nor are they registered as lobbyists in the state of Virginia, where they are located.

We are unaware of any lobbying efforts on the part of NAGR to work directly with legislators to influence legislation either in the states or at the federal level."

I bet Dudley Brown gets a handsome salary and expenses, though. And that NAGR is counting his salary and expenses as "lobbying effort."

NAGR's donations in 2010:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C70005277&cycle=2010

That's right, zero. Bupkiss.

How about 2012, you say?

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000062593

CONTRIBUTIONS $90,000 (ranks 3,371 of 20,981)

LOBBYING $0 (2012) $0 (2011)

OUTSIDE SPENDING $0

In comparison, the NRA-ILA spending is here:

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/detail.php?cmte=C90013301&cycle=2012

The NRA-ILA spent about $7.5M on federal elections alone. The NRA PAC spent more.
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