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Posted: 5/30/2009 12:03:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/30/2009 12:04:00 PM EST by Ghetto]
Guy had it labeled as .308 AP 500rds for $350.

I asked where it was made and the guy said France

I got him down on price by a decent amount and bought it all, so what did I buy







Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:06:09 PM EST
Its hard to find real 7.62x51 AP now. They don't sell new factory .308 AP anymore because of ATF pressure IIRC. They did the same to the .308 Accelerator too.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:06:54 PM EST
It is NATO, I can tell you that.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:09:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:09:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By marksman121:
Its hard to find real 7.62x51 AP now. They don't sell new factory .308 AP anymore because of ATF pressure IIRC. They did the same to the .308 Accelerator too.


I'm familiar with the black tip .30-06 but this is the first "AP" .308 that I've ever seen if it's the real deal.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:10:36 PM EST
It was definitely made in France. SF is short for Societe Francaise des Munitions, and I believe 71 references 1971. As far as caliber is concerned, I don't know. Does it chamber in a .308 rifle?
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:12:09 PM EST
i assume the projectile sticks to a magnet?

Pull one and cut it in half, see whats inside.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:13:03 PM EST
Looking at the headstamp, you got yourself some SF 71 better known as "San Fransisco 71". It's easily identifiable by the black mascara around the neck.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:18:58 PM EST
That isn't AP, not even close.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:25:15 PM EST
AP or not it really doesn't matter to me but I got a good deal on the ammo which is why I bought it.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:34:57 PM EST
Yep 1971 French ball.....probably corrosive. If it shoots like their 7.5x54mm of the same vintage expect bucket size groups.....
great collector ammo..........
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:37:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By StevenH:
i assume the projectile sticks to a magnet?

Pull one and cut it in half, see whats inside.


Does a magnet stick to tungsten?
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:39:36 PM EST
Maine Cartridge sold some 7.62 x 51 AP a few years ago. They remanufactured it with pulled FN 162 gr AP bullets.

You can still buy pulled AP bullets if you look around. Buy a thousand of them and sit on 'em.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:42:44 PM EST
Unquestionably French

SF = Societe Francaise des Munitions

Mfg 1971

147gr Cupro Nickel jacketed

Corrosive as the debil


Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:42:57 PM EST
Did it come with tiny white flags?
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:45:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By FatCat1:
Did it come with tiny white flags?


Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:49:17 PM EST
I have some 30-06 that looks very simular. Unfortunately, I don't have pics.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:51:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By Evilsmurfkilla:
Originally Posted By StevenH:
i assume the projectile sticks to a magnet?

Pull one and cut it in half, see whats inside.


Does a magnet stick to tungsten?


Was tungsten even used in 1971?

All my .30 Caliber AP is just hardened steel core with a mild steel jacket.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:54:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By osprey21:
Unquestionably French

SF = Societe Francaise des Munitions

Mfg 1971

147gr Cupro Nickel jacketed

Corrosive as the debil

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=10297&prev=1


Interesting, maybe it'll go on gunbroker

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Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:56:42 PM EST
So are you going to pull one apart or no?
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 12:58:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By coltaceguy:
That isn't AP, not even close.


Maybe not by definition, but 147gr ball lead core, will sail through 3/8" hot roll mild steel plate at 100yds like it isn't even there.

Link Posted: 5/30/2009 1:00:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By FatCat1:
Did it come with tiny white flags?


It patterns in one.
Link Posted: 5/30/2009 1:06:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By BrandonB:
So are you going to pull one apart or no?


maybe tomorrow

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Link Posted: 5/30/2009 1:18:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/30/2009 1:23:56 PM EST by Ridgerunner9876]
Looks like a nickel-copper jacket. The little plus sign is NATO. Not seen the "SF" mark. I'd say deffinatley not AP.

I hate buying loose rounds. It can be a sign that they were supposed to be demilled i.e. not suitable for shooting. A lot of people have shot a lot of loose packed rounds, though. Hope you got a good deal on them.

It really sucks that we are reduced to buying this shit for high prices. I doubt the days of $100/1k rds will ever return

eta: It really pisses me off that dealers label this shit when they have no fucking clue what it is. Cavaet emptor like a M F .
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:51:23 AM EST
Got bored this morning and counted the rounds.

660

So yeah even though I didn't get what it was labeled (which I knew it wasn't anyway) I did get more than I paid for
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